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Toe in, Toe out?

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#1 ·
Why is Polaris one of the only ones to want Toe out instead of Toe in when you do a front wheel alignment?
Anyone know the reasoning behind this?
 
#6 ·
I may be off here, but I was under the impression that when these machines are toed out they tend to feel like they're "searching" for a line. Both of mine came from the dealership this way. And they always felt like they were just looking for a rut to follow. I adjusted both of mine to be slightly pigeon toed (toe in), and they track much better now. And they also turn quicker at speed. I understand that when toed out slightly, they turn better at slower speeds. But I'm looking for more responsiveness in turns above 30 mph.

I guess that was just a long drawn out way of saying I prefer toe in.
 
#7 ·
Race cars generally go fast.
Tow out for better cornering.
Tow in for better straight line stability, and sluggish and unresponsive turn in at any speed.

Toe can also be used to alter a vehicle's handling traits. Increased toe-in will typically result in reduced oversteer, help steady the car and enhance high-speed stability. Increased toe-out will typically result in reduced understeer, helping free up the car, especially during initial turn-in while entering a corner.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=4

Steering response will be improved with toe-out.
Straight line stability will be improved with toe-in.
Street cars often are set up with toe-in; For good straight-line stability cornering is sacrefied.
Race cars are often set up with toe-out; Straight-line stability is sacrisfied for good cornering.
Camber, Caster, Toe-in/Toe-out, explained - Intrax Racing
 
#9 ·
I prefer toe out. It for sure adds responsiveness across the whole speed range. I ride 100% desert, I am sure your terrain makes a big impact on which alignment works best for you. If I run toe in my car turns like a POS dump truck. I do not experience oversteer either.

I think bad camber is more noticeable than a little toe either way.