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Thinking of moving to the US- Which State?

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#1 ·
Hi, I live in Australia and I’m getting really frustrated by all our overbearing rules and regulations. I would like to move to the US with my family and would like some suggestions on which state would be the best. I love your constitution especially the first and second amendments and would like to find the most free state to live in. My priorities are being able to ride utv’s on the street and be within 1 to 2 hours from beach and snow. Obviously there are many other things to consider and would love peoples opinions. Thanks in advance.


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#2 ·
Idaho, but the beach will be on a lake, not the ocean. Northern Idaho is great. I live in Eastern Washington within 20 miles of Idaho and do all my ATV and SXS riding there. Plenty of lakes for fishing. Mid summer the water is warm enough for fishing. Montana is great too but their taxes are too high, in my opinion. As far as second amendment, there are lots of places to shoot guns and to hunt and fish. Making your job skills and the job market match could/might be a problem... Where are you in OZ? My wife has a cousin in Perth... He and his wife visited the US this year and loved it. Traveled by train... He says the same thing about the Australian Government rules and regulations...
 
#3 ·
Utah is one of states with the most freedom but like Idaho there is no close ocean beach. Most of the coastal areas are liberal with lots of rules. South Dakota is also nice as are parts of Wyoming. I live in Colorado which has everything I love except driving my UTV on the highway. It’s always best if possible to visit the states as climates and cost of living very tremendously.
 
#5 ·
State to stay away from. Any east of Mississippi. California, Oregon, Washington know as the left coast. Live in Oregon. Love the country, hate the politics. We are two hours from beach or snow. Lots of public lands for riding. No street riding as yet. Oregon is very left and a very dumb sanctuary state. That is up for vote by the people. Colorado is also very left and not very friendly to our sport. Most of the western states have riding on roads. The plain states are mostly private lands, little open to riding. So the mid mountain states are all a good choice. Personally I would look hard at Utah as it has more riding then on can do in a lifetime I think. Finding a job in Utah may not be easy. No beach some sand. Lots and lots of incredible beautiful country and public lands to ride. Some parts of Texas would be worth a look. Very strong economic. In Utah one is close to so many other states to explore, Nevada, Dakotas, Idaho, New Mexico, Wyoming, Montana, Arizona. Arizona will surprise one with the amount of riding and neat country to explore in the cooler months.

Not many can offer beach to snow within two hours. California, avoid that state like the plaque. Oregon has that to offer. IF one can stand the stupid government. You have a amazing variety of country/states to choose from. Some depends on your choice of desert to mountains as to where you would like to live. Large city to small town. A lot will depend on your job skills.

Had a friend in High School that moved by himself to US from down under. Has down very will in the US.
 
#16 ·
Undoubtedly you have never ridden on the east coast. Many of the best trail systems are on the east side of the US I live in Tennessee and have ridden the TN systems and Ky and Wva systems. I love Utah but for TRAIL riding TN Wva and Ky cant be beat....plus no trail width restrictions. Utah is wide open with great scenery but mostly road type rides and extremely dusty, or even unmaintained roads like Highway 6 near Moab. For trail riding I don't think you can beat the east coast
 
#8 ·
Nevada is a great place last cowboy state. Nye county has a lot of exploring mountains to ride up to. Open carry guns so little crime. No smog or state taxes. Land in cheap. And gas and electric is inexpensive. A lot of open range from sand dunes to desert to mountains. There is tons of free range animals like houses donkeys coyotes an battle horn sheep. And if you want the big city life vegas is only 40 min away


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#9 ·
As others have mentioned, both coasts have been infested with liberals and basically ruined. It's awful living in a blue state. There're laws against everything, and they tax the living hell out of you to pay the welfare rats for their votes. If I were you I'd look really hard at the western states and be open to settling for a beach on a lake. You're not gonna find real snow in the southern conservative states that have ocean frontage, and the weather down there can be miserably oppressive in the summer.
 
#10 ·
Lots of 50" trails in my corner of Montana and certainly no shortage of snow. But as others have stated, the beaches are all on lakes. Taxes are a bit subjective. Yes, property taxes are a little high in Montana, but there is no sales tax and the overall tax rate is a low lower than a lot of states.

And yes, you can run ATV's/UTV's on public roads here if properly equipped for such. More to the point, those vehicles have to be so equipped and licensed to run on any trail also open to highway vehicles.

Unless a person is one of the 1% crowd, I would guess the job situation would trump a lot of other criteria.
 
#11 ·
Thanks everyone for the comments(especially the “welfare rats”[emoji1]) keep them coming please.


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#14 ·
Originally from Detroit. Talk about blue. LOVE AZ. Open carry here. Overall conservative state. We are fighting to stay that way too. Many from California are coming here since they destroyed their state with their liberal BS. We'll gladly welcome with open arms every new conservative. Our job market is good. Taxes aren't bad. Lakes are nice, but I'm spoiled being from Michigan. Nothing can touch the Great Lakes IMO. Snow is only 90 miles away from me. I can see it when I want to winter. I'm in the Phoenix east valley. UTV's are legal to drive on roads with the right equipment like twin silencers, stage 4 ecu tuning...Just kidding. Horn, turn signals, mirror. That stuff. Mine is sittin outside the bar I'm at right now. Having food, not drinking. We're new and only been on Bulldog Canyon trail. It was fun. All desert. Minor rocks.

Would love to have ya here. AZ is beautiful. But here in the Phoenix valley we get HOT in the summer. My user name is DryHeat115 for a reason. And cooling mods are the first mods I'm doing on our RZR. Come join us! There's lots of desert we can tear up!!

Scott

PS: Where in Australia are you? I was in Melbourne for a month back in 1996.
 
#24 ·
Originally from Detroit. Talk about blue. LOVE AZ. Open carry here. Overall conservative state. We are fighting to stay that way too. Many from California are coming here since they destroyed their state with their liberal BS. We'll gladly welcome with open arms every new conservative. Our job market is good. Taxes aren't bad. Lakes are nice, but I'm spoiled being from Michigan. Nothing can touch the Great Lakes IMO. Snow is only 90 miles away from me. I can see it when I want to winter. I'm in the Phoenix east valley. UTV's are legal to drive on roads with the right equipment like twin silencers, stage 4 ecu tuning...Just kidding. Horn, turn signals, mirror. That stuff. Mine is sittin outside the bar I'm at right now. Having food, not drinking. We're new and only been on Bulldog Canyon trail. It was fun. All desert. Minor rocks.



Would love to have ya here. AZ is beautiful. But here in the Phoenix valley we get HOT in the summer. My user name is DryHeat115 for a reason. And cooling mods are the first mods I'm doing on our RZR. Come join us! There's lots of desert we can tear up!!



Scott



PS: Where in Australia are you? I was in Melbourne for a month back in 1996.


Hi Scott, I live 2 hours south of Sydney. I own a Polaris dealership but the regulations here are a nightmare. It definitely looks like AZ and UT are the consensus so far. Only reason I want the beach is for wave jumping jet skis but unfortunately you can’t have everything so it looks like no more ski’s for me.
Nathan.


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#29 ·
Canada lol. The guy wants freedom! If you love being over taxed, having the left shut all the trails down, and being considered a criminal for owning a fire arm this is the place for you! I live in Canada and if I could Move to Montana or Idaho I would be gone in a second! We welcome everyone with open arms, as long as your a refugee from the Middle East. They call it free health care, but they take over half our paycheck. It’s not free. I do lots of riding in Montana and Idaho. Beautiful country, and UTVs are very easily street legal.
 
#18 ·
I like Chino Valley AZ area. Higher elevations with mountains and lakes close by and a lot of open desert. Maybe a little snow some winter but not bad from what I've heard. Temps are not bad either do to elevation. Not over populated like here in So Cal. You can get a home or even a mobile home on acreage also for a reasonable price and still have neighbors next to you on 5 to 10 acres. It also has stores, gas stations, and some fast food places also. Prescott is close also.
 
#19 ·
Saying the east coast has the best riding is like saying they have the best snowboarding. Heck our Colorado foothills are higher then your mountains?. I can ride sand dunes to 13,000 ft mountains the same day, forest to rock crawling and it’s free public land. Utah has amazing diversity also from mountain trails to desert running and rock crawling. I love Arizona trails but it’s almost unbearably hot in the summer, I used to have a winter trailer there and spent many years trying different trails. West is the best!
 
#20 ·
No doubt some of the East coast trails are absolutely amazing! Maine, Tennessee, West Virginia...but the guy is asking where to LIVE in the US, not just the best riding, and if someone was asking me for advice on where to move because he is fleeing an oppressive country I sure as shit am not going to recommend the east coast of the US. If I could talk my wife into moving away from her family I would already be a ghost here. Shit, I’ve got family now living in CO. and my mother and her boyfriend just bought a ranch in Elk City, ID. I have a good-paying job that I love, but it sure does suck living here.
 
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I have to agree that Conn is not the place on the east coast that I would consider moving to either, but the east coast extends all the way to Florida and the states I mentioned Tenn Wva Ky and even Virginia have great riding and also have many more JOBS than the western states, and since the OP wants to move here he might want a good paying job wherever he moves to. As for the person who chimed in and said we have a lot of private land WE do and for a small fee you get to ride on trails that are taken care of and lack the width restrictions of many other states, so there is definitely a trade off. I love Utah but the heat is oppressive in the summer and the dust can be unbearable, but its one of the most beautiful states I've ever ridden in. I wouldn't live there for the sole reason is that there aren't that many jobs there compared to the eastern states. Much of the state is completely deserted, which makes for great riding but not for job acquisition
 
#21 ·
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As others have said, the western states are pretty good for riding, Arizona, Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, parts of Colorado. You can find desert, mountains and anything in between, Beaches are a bit more of a challenge.

Utah stands out above the rest as far as trail systems and ATV/UTV friendly.

If you are looking for employment that might have an influence on location depending on what kind of work you need.

Les
 
#23 ·
I winter in Arizona and summer in Western Washington. Only go back to Washington because all my family is there. If I was looking for year around place to live, I think the guy who suggested Chino Valley area is right on. AZ is ATV/UTV friendly and Chino Valley and Prescott are high enough elevation to escape some of that unbearable summer heat. Flagstaff has the winter sports and is not far. Check out Arizona, where conservatives abound and the First and Second Amendments are revered.
 
#25 ·
Idaho has many lakes and rivers. Some of the best rapids around as well as thousands of miles of trails and forest roads you can ride. Riding the street really depends on the area. Many places allow riding on the streets but not on marked state highways. Taxes are reasonable and the people are really friendly. I ride an RZR Trail and love this area. I live within 35 miles of 3 major rivers. The mountains are 20 minutes to the north or 20 minutes to the south. Whitewater rapids are on two of the rivers close to where I live.
 
#27 ·
Listen you want Freedom move to New Hampshire by far the best state to live in as far as New England. You have Ride the Wilds trail system one of the best states for retirement as far as taxes go. You are not far from the ocean. If you want to snowmobile they have great trails for that. There is two systems I know stay open for atv's except mud season. When I retire I am selling my house in VT and moving to NH. Taxes are not high. Guns laws are not strict at all there. Check it out and housing is very reasonable.
 
#28 ·
After a career in the USAF, I settled (18 years ago) in Ogden area, Northern Utah, both for job and for outdoors. You can ride for 3 seasons (year round in southern Utah) and ski all winter long, 14 resorts. I can be at Snowbasin in 30 minutes, Powder Mountain in 45 minutes, or Snowbird/Alta/Brighton/Solitude in an hour.

There is a 15 square mile fresh water reservoir in the Great Salt Lake, Willard Bay. Used for all kinds of jet skiing, boating and fishing. Numerous other reservoirs in the northern half of the state too.

SxS can be street legal, only restriction seems to be high-speed limited access freeways. State Forest, National Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management (BLM) land everywhere, sand dunes, mountain trails up to 12K feet. I can be in Moab on red rock or in the dunes in 4 hours; in the mountains in 15 minutes. Lots of trail systems; Google "Paiute Trail" or "Arapeen Trail". There are ATV/SxS jamborees every year; Moab's Rally On The Rocks is SxS only.

Limitations: in the forests, you do have to stay on approved trails. In the dunes/desert, well, take a GPS and drop a pin at your truck, don't go alone or take a sat-phone. There is a rabble-rousing group of well-funded liberal tree huggers constantly trying to turn some areas of the state, mostly red rock and desert areas, into wilderness (no mechanized travel, only foot or horseback) that we are constantly fighting.

USFS maps https://www.fs.usda.gov/main/uwcnf/maps-pubs
BLM maps (mostly the desert and dunes) https://www.blm.gov/maps/frequently-requested/utah
State Parks https://stateparks.utah.gov/
General stuff: https://utah.com/
Ski stuff (Utah pow is light and fluffy): https://www.skiutah.com/

And to top it off, it is an open carry (or concealed carry with easily-obtainable license), conservative state. The liberals are mostly concentrated in downtown Salt Lake City. And no matter what anyone says about the LDS religion, they are the best neighbors you could ask for.
 
#35 ·
After a career in the USAF, I settled (18 years ago) in Ogden area, Northern Utah, both for job and for outdoors. You can ride for 3 seasons (year round in southern Utah) and ski all winter long, 14 resorts. I can be at Snowbasin in 30 minutes, Powder Mountain in 45 minutes, or Snowbird/Alta/Brighton/Solitude in an hour.

There is a 15 square mile fresh water reservoir in the Great Salt Lake, Willard Bay. Used for all kinds of jet skiing, boating and fishing. Numerous other reservoirs in the northern half of the state too.

SxS can be street legal, only restriction seems to be high-speed limited access freeways. State Forest, National Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management (BLM) land everywhere, sand dunes, mountain trails up to 12K feet. I can be in Moab on red rock or in the dunes in 4 hours; in the mountains in 15 minutes. Lots of trail systems; Google "Paiute Trail" or "Arapeen Trail". There are ATV/SxS jamborees every year; Moab's Rally On The Rocks is SxS only.

Limitations: in the forests, you do have to stay on approved trails. In the dunes/desert, well, take a GPS and drop a pin at your truck, don't go alone or take a sat-phone. There is a rabble-rousing group of well-funded liberal tree huggers constantly trying to turn some areas of the state, mostly red rock and desert areas, into wilderness (no mechanized travel, only foot or horseback) that we are constantly fighting.

USFS maps https://www.fs.usda.gov/main/uwcnf/maps-pubs
BLM maps (mostly the desert and dunes) https://www.blm.gov/maps/frequently-requested/utah
State Parks https://stateparks.utah.gov/
General stuff: https://utah.com/
Ski stuff (Utah pow is light and fluffy): https://www.skiutah.com/

And to top it off, it is an open carry (or concealed carry with easily-obtainable license), conservative state. The liberals are mostly concentrated in downtown Salt Lake City. And no matter what anyone says about the LDS religion, they are the best neighbors you could ask for.


Thanks for your help. I was looking into property prices there last night. ( its Tuesday morning here now)


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