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Roll cage lecture

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#1 ·
So a friend of mine gave me a lecture how he wouldn’t “allow his family in a new pro R “ without upgrading the cage. Now I know aftermarket DOM is better but how much? An old cage is agree with but the new cages are one piece which is a big improvement. I’m curious how thick the new Oem cages are?
 
#2 ·
My buddy cut his stock 2 seat cage open when he was building a new one and it was almost .120 wall. They’re much more stout than older models. We will always have a custom cage on every machine we own. They look better and they’re safer. With that said if you don’t want to drop 3 grand the stock cage is probably fine.
 
#3 ·
The sky is the limit for aftermarket cages but most are .095 where factory is .065, what I don't get is why buy a 35k machine that Is basically an engine and roll cage, then remove and upgrade all suspension, clutch, cage, wheels, engine, seats, electronics, I see modding a thing or 2, but to rebuild from the ground up makes no sense, what is adequate to some isn't strong enough to others, why not just build a custom tube chassis crawler if people don't feel any single component is adequate, obviously money isn't a factor.
 
#5 ·
Yea are you sure the factory cage is .120? That’s a hair under 1/8 inch. As for the metal, the factory cage is me guess ERW in a basic mild steel. Aftermarket .095 is likely a DOM and a much higher grade mild steel. It’s impressive if the factory is truly .120. I’m sure the tensile strength on the thinner DOM is higher, and maybe a weight savings too but at a high cost
 
#6 ·
China mild steel erw (you know popo ain’t paying high price for USA) even at .120 will bend easily in a manual tube bender by pulling with one hand. .095 dom is two hands and .120 dom is two hands cheater bar and some grunting lol. Of course take in to consideration missing welds and/or welds that run off course and don’t catch both tubes very well
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Factory cage of any model is good for some but not others. Our main bars are .120 braced with .095. Several people we know use .188. Id personally not like to find out what a oem cage will hold up to or not. That’s just me
 
#8 ·
The cage that he cut, was it from a Pro R? I know for a fact the old XP cages and Pro XP is only .065 ERW. With that being said it would be nice if they built them with a .120 wall tube but I doubt it.

My personal/professional opinion, .120 DOM is overkill for most recreational riders if the cage is designed properly. NASCAR roll cages are only .095 tube(not sure if that changed with the new chassis, but I’ve seen some mangled ones so I’d assume not) Now with that being said, every custom cage I build is out of .120 DOM tube and fully tig welded(I don’t want to be sued if someone gets hurt)


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#14 ·
i did one ride in my 2021 turboS 4 with the stock cage, aftermarket one was on order. i had a cage in my budget before i even bought the rzr. the stock cage is not very safe. but then that also depends on your riding. most riding i do is mid to higher speeds, 99% of my riding is in glamis. no slow trails. i did not feel safe with the stock cage. if you have instagram look up trophyburro, they have a post from september '21 where they drop a rzr from a good height, one with stock cage one with aftermarket cage. this is a bit of an extreme example because of the height being dropped but still gives you a good idea of the weakness of the stock cage. also a good aftermarket cage just looks so much better as well. they are not cheap but i think well worth it.
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#15 ·
i did one ride in my 2021 turboS 4 with the stock cage, aftermarket one was on order. i had a cage in my budget before i even bought the rzr. the stock cage is not very safe. but then that also depends on your riding. most riding i do is mid to higher speeds, 99% of my riding is in glamis. no slow trails. i did not feel safe with the stock cage. if you have instagram look up trophyburro, they have a post from september '21 where they drop a rzr from a good height, one with stock cage one with aftermarket cage. this is a bit of an extreme example because of the height being dropped but still gives you a good idea of the weakness of the stock cage. also a good aftermarket cage just looks so much better as well. they are not cheap but i think well worth it.
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FWIW, I had my 2016 XPT in a pretty vicious crash. While the roll cage was deformed a bit, it held up well. With that said, after that crash it needed to be replaced. If you are going to full time race then go with the aftermarket cage. For the weekend warrior I don’t see the point. I expect the Pro-R cage to be good enough to save your life in any half way reasonable situation. If you intend to go head on into a Mack truck it probably won’t matter.