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How many RZR owners would like to have options for a Double Clutch automatic/paddle shift Trans?

  • Nope, I'm good with simple CVTs and belts.

    Votes: 19 49%
  • Yeah, a multi speed transmission would give me more flexibility while driving.

    Votes: 8 21%
  • Give me a reliable DCT if it doesn't drive up the cost more than a few percent.

    Votes: 9 23%
  • I'd like a liquid cooled CVT with long belt life over a complex DCT.

    Votes: 3 7.7%

(POLL)Asking Polaris for a multi speed DCT. Pretty please.

7.5K views 31 replies 11 participants last post by  giannangelodaniel  
#1 · (Edited)
Opening a Can of Worms.... Is it time for belts to begin being phased out, especially for certain models?

Until recently, every time I would go into my Dealer I would comment that Polaris needs a DCT for their performance RZRs. And every time the reply I got, "Why?". And something about the CVT being best to handle the shocks of off-road blah blah blah. But the Big Red H has one... I'd reply.

POLARIS LISTEN, I want to run at lower RPM when cruising, it's quieter, and creates less wear on the internals of the motor. PLUS, I hate worrying if my belt is going to break at some very inopportune time or place, like on a steep climb.

Perhaps now Polaris will be listening, because NOW there is definitely competition.

I think it might be a painful lesson for Polaris. I love my Pro R, except for the ridiculous noise while just cruising from my house to the trail head or place where I'm ready to drive aggressively. Where I live, I don't have to trailer my SXS to where I want to ride, AND I don't drive aggressively all the time, where noise is acceptable.

I'd like to be able to hear an audio system when cruising. I didn't order the audio upgrades, because you can't hear them anyway.

RIGHT NOW, I'm enjoying my RZR, I love many things about it, and there wasn't any acceptable competition that didn't have a CVT anyway. But UH OH, the game changing DCT drivetrain of the competition may just win me over... And I think it might be the future. I haven't been a Can Am fan but the DCT in the new model sounds pretty sweet to me.

I'm sitting back and observing how this all plays out. Is the new DCT in a powerful off-road machine reliable? Will Polaris have its own answer in the works? Will RZR Pro Rs soon be %30 off with 0% financing? When will DCTs trickle down to lower cost units? After all, Hondas with DCTs are in the mid-twenties.

I think it's fair to discuss this, we cannot pretend that transmission options won't be coming.
 
#2 ·
Coming from VW with a 4 speed....i say no. I enjoy not having to shift constantly. I like shutting my brain off and just RIDING.

It's safer keeping both hands on the steering wheel, especially at the speeds these machines are capable of. I don't think Polaris would win enough converts. I looked at YXZ's, not impressive enough of a machine for me to be "happy" with a manual transmission.

Belt driven, now that's a different story. I would go for a Poo with a drive shaft. Rubber belts may gave been the way to go when these machines were simply steroided up golf carts with the same tranny as a sled. But now, yeah I'd check out a Driveline without a belt, as long as i could stay around 200hp which is just enough to put my Rzr where I want it to be in the sand....

Alltogether, who knows. Different Strokes for Different Folks. But I'm glad to have moved away from one hand being on the wheel and one on a shifter at my age...
 
#5 ·
I wouldnt be opposed if it was reliable. I had two Honda 420 Ranchers with electronic shift. I liked the gear selection for rock crawling and engine braking. But, they weren't very reliable. They were at the dealership several times for shifting issues.
 
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#6 ·
I wouldnt be opposed if it was reliable. I had two Honda 420 Ranchers with electronic shift. I liked the gear selection for rock crawling and engine braking. But, they weren't very reliable. They were at the dealership several times for shifting issues.
I have had these on Honda ATV's before and they were rock solid for me. The big difference is the fuel savings when you're just cruising down the road but still had the choice of gears for your driving needs. I wish Polaris would at least give us an option, belt or no belt!
 
#8 ·
I like the thought of an actual transmission and not a rubber band. For me where I am using my Pro XP for hunting as well as leisure trail riding with the family, I would like the ability of shifting like my buddies who have Hondas.
I could see the benefit of the transmission at the dunes as well. Not smoking a belt or blowing one apart due to heating it up.
With all that said, a belt is cheaper to replace than a set of gears in a transmission when it lets go.
 
#11 ·
I don't think polaris is going to have the luxury baby steps. The Maverick R is out and jamming around the dunes and deserts right now. I suspect a lot of folks will want the ability to shift or run in automatic. It also has different kinds of mapping with lower rpm shift points.. That's the kind of stuff I want.

With that being said the DCT has to be reliable and tough.
 
#18 ·
Dual-clutch multi speed transmissions have been around in cars for a while , they do break , and when they do , it’s expensive to fix . And guess who’s working on your machine ? The only guy that could identify which end of a screwdriver to use on the job app . Right now the belt seems to work fairly well . I just purchased a Pro R and I thought about the transmission in the Can Am , but decided against it .
 
#28 ·
So, this is where we are: I think most people prefer to use the CVT in some way. I'm going to say that I love the Yamaha version, with a 10 year warranty. It is smooth and perfect in my opinion. But I'd prefer a bulletproof DCT.

There are folks who agree with me and would like to have a DCT, but half are cost sensitive, which makes sense to me.

I'm going to go out on a thin limb here and say that people who want a DCT want to run at higher speeds. And/or perhaps want a simple driving experience that does not require attention paid to switchgear. But I could be dead wrong about that (comment below). I think switching gears can be done with an auto mode. But used frequently, can become natural without much diversion from driving.

Thanks to everyone that participates.



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