Dave from Fullerton sand tires has the set up

 

Dave from Fullerton sand tires has the set up

 

Where is his shop at since I'm located in AZ

 

I went with stu paddles and razor fronts #1 play cut. Denny at Fodrill over on olive and the 101 is a great local guy to deal with

 

Check with Dave or Steve at Fullerton Sand Sports before you do anything. He can tell you where to find the set-up you need that is at a shop closer to you. Fullerton Sand Sports has done many hours of testing and will ask you how you drive and other questions to make sure you get the set-up best suited for you.

 

Thanks I will look into both of them.

 

I like my STU comp cut

 

Call Tim from go go performance. He's located in North Phoenix and he has by far the best prices on scat tracs with rims, mounted and lugs ! He also carries the strippers and the stus, but the scat tracs work the best. Don't go with the stagger cut....they suck, especially on the xp1k.

All he sells and distributes is paddle tires. Great guy and great prices !

602-576-1043

 

What size of paddle would you recommend me getting?

 

I just ordered my set from sidebysidesports.com. STUs on HyPers for under $2500 delivered. I couldn't find anyone to touch that price. If you don't want the HyPers you can get them for under $1500 delivered.

Edited to add I disagree Skats are not the best for dunning. Great for racing and hill shooting inferior for out in the dunes. STUs are much more stable feeling.

 

I picked up a set of STU's from sidebysidesports.com. They were by far the best priced with the forum discount.

 

What is special about hypers ?

 

It's a bead lock rim with a carbon outer and a billet center. Very light and strong for the size. Probably way overkill for this application but I decided to go all out on this build.

 

STUs don't spin enough IMO, always run skats on all my sand toys. Most of my buddies can't climb nearly the size dunes I do at short start distances with STUs. Just my experience. If you have stupid amounts of horsepower then it's a different story

 

STUs don't spin enough IMO, always run skats on all my sand toys. Most of my buddies can't climb nearly the size dunes I do at short start distances with STUs. Just my experience.

I ran both STUs and skats on my 900. The skates felt a lot loser in the rear while dunning. Felt like I was on ice, my fiance hated the feeling and wouldn't ride. I switched to STUs and felt way more stable and "attached" to the sand. Air them up a little and they spin fine, never found a hill I couldn't climb that someone else could. Now with the 1k we will see how the new set up does.

 

Marc, I would agree you are much "looser" with the skats, coming from quads and riding dunes my whole life I may have leaned more towards them because you need that for aggressive duning. Spin is a positive with a lower horsepower motor on the bottom end, when the tire spins it expands and gives you the dig you need at higher speeds or on the sides of dunes. Really is all about how you like to ride, just wanted to give my thoughts as I have many experiences with all types of tires and how they seem to work these relatively lightweight/lower horsepower vehicles in stock form.

 

I agree, I think it's different strokes for different folks. If you ask Fullerton they agree with my assessment. I don't think either is a bad choice and I don't think either will out run the others in the dunes. Just the STUs feel more stable. The skats are a little faster at the drags and hill. It's all about what feeling you are looking for and driving style.

 

Tim @ Extreme or Go Go is very knowledgeable and prefers to set people up for duning over drag racing based on the average customer. I think you guys are both right, its a Ford vs Chevy type of deal. I have worked with Dave @ FSS also and he is very knowledgeable too. I would call both before making a decision. I personally ordered a set from each for my drag car and Tim was the only one to offer my money back if they didn't out perform the other tire. Dave gave me a discount but was still more expensive. I don't think you can go wrong either way.

 

Which did you prefer?

 

Both the Blasters and Scats are about the same price for a 14" rim size paddle.

I have driven both set ups and I ended up with the Blasters with a 80/20 cut on the paddles and razor front tires. I love the way they dune and are able to float on the sand. For the occasional drag race they do quite well.

The scats do an excellent job as well, but will through up more sand.

There is really no wrong choice. Your checkbook will ultimately dictate which way you go. The more difficult question is what rims are you going to put them on?

 

I will be testing both tires at UTV Invasion in a week or so. I have STU's on my XP1K but I am thinking about changing to Skats. I have noticed that PACE likes to run Skats on most of their builds. They have a 30" tire with a few different paddle configurations. If you want to get really serious you can send any carcass to Skat and they will vulcanize any paddle in any configuration you want.
Since its hard to compare what my car likes (and my driving style) my only other recent experience was with my friends stock Maverick. He had a set of STU's on it and decided to order a set of 8 paddle extremes from Dave with roll out matched smooth buffs. His car did considerably better with the skats but I think it had more to do with the front tires than the rear. Its amazing how much traction the ruff buff smooth front tires actually get. Of course I am only referring to how well it did at climbing soft steep dunes. I have been trying to find a set of buffed fronts for my XP1K but Dave says he doesn't have any that will match my rear tires.
It really depends on what you are looking for. I like to go fast and so I want the tire that does that the best. If you need a tire that will make your wife feel more comfortable in the car than you need to take that into consideration. My wife doesn't like to lose a race and she could care less about feeling connected to the sand. Lol. I'm not saying that to discredit the previous post because that is what the STU's will do. And lets face it, if momma ain't happy......well you know how that goes. Lol.

 

After running both set ups I didn't notice more or less speed in the dunes one to the other.

 

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The most important thing is you do not put the paddle tire on too narrow of a rim. 8" up front and 10" in the rear. Flotation is your friend in the sand.

I watched two 900s drag race up Brawley Slide in Glamis. One had scats and the other had Blasters. Both had the same rims . The winner was whoever had the best reaction time when the person dropped their arms.

 

Honestly I bought the HiPers because I found them used for a great price. You can buy DWT spun aluminum rims and they will be much lighter. I would never run HiPers on my drag car. I really don't think they are worth the price brand new but that's just me.

 

My justification was they were about $94 a piece more than the DTW bead locks, the weight was simular, a lot stronger, and infinitely better looking.

 

Definitely look better.

 

Tim is a very knowledgeable and honest businessman to deal with. I have bought 4 sets of sand paddles from over the last three seasons. He was by far the lowest price otd for the scats mounted on Douglas spun rims. I went with the scats not only because they are lightweight, but also because of all the bad luck I have had with the molded paddle tires on the xp and xp1k. We also did a side by side comparison and yes..the scats do throw more sand. Its up to personal opinions and how and where you dune. I prefer the non molded paddles and the ruff buffs out front since floatation is key. The molded paddles do not have enough sidewall flex. Definitely stay away from the doonz!

btw...I paid under $1100 for all four scats, rims, mounting and lugs.

 

Tim ftw! Call him for recommendations on tire size. Do not buy the Doonz brand. Actually I don't think he would even sell them to you unless you asked. Skat has a great 30" tire that you could get with 8 paddle extremes and matched front buffs.

 

Ok thanks

 

subscribed!!

 

No problem and have fun. Let us know how you like them.

 

I sure will, thanks again

 

Picked them up from him, ready for Glamis next week. Will let you know how they perform.

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Looking Good!

Who's Roll bar is that?

 

I had a guy in Buckeye, AZ make it for me. He use to work at UTV Inc and makes cages now. Did a good job on it

 

are those the 30" or the 26.5" ? Trying to decide which ones to get

 

Tim says they are 26.5 but when rolled out they are 28.5.