I'm also sorry if I posted this in wrong section, admins feel free to move if needed

 

My guess you jumped it and landed on the front end or hit a violent transition. Looks like the impact damage occurred when the front A arms were fully extended. Damage on both sides like that isn't a defective part...JMO

 

Were you on the whoops between deuces and the north entrance?

 

looks like a jump gone bad but still these were shown in polaris company vids doing worse than u have described. i would ask for fjk's help as this is not the first time i have read of of bent shocks or broken axles on new 1000 xp's

 

I don't care what the op was doing the shocks shouldn't fold up like that.

 

Call your insurance company if you want that damage covered. I would agree with Polaris regarding rider abuse!!!

 

With the printout from the PCM data logging the speeds and such it seems like you have a case, and it sounds like your dealer is behind you.
I wouldn't give up yet.

 

I'll give you 10k for that wreck and you can go buy a Trophy Truck. That should solve your problem.

 

Why do people keep posting driver abuse when you can clearly see the shock shafts are bent. That right there shows a defective part. The shafts are suppose to be hardened steel that should not bend in anyway like that. a slight bend yes but when it gets that far it should break. I have seen alot of these new shock bend. Polaris fix these issues or go back to the drawing board

 

Absolutely right

 

My honest opinion after dealing with ford and dodge on a few lemons. Attempt to contact polaris one last time if that doesn't work. Get an estimate for the repair and file a small claims case against them. They will lose with that report where you dealer says it's most likely not abuse. If you don't want to do that file a claim with your insurance would be your other option depending on deductibles.

 

Uh.... Kinda wierd on the shock bending not breaking... But
That thing had one bad landing to fold like that dude...

 

Look at all the other threads on here with the shock shafts folding up on the 1k. Guy even tested some of them and Rockwell hardness rating was well below what they should be.

 

They have a problem with the shock shafts. That's a known fact. But at the same time its pretty hard to believe that machine did not take a hard landing. I mean I'm in the south east so its not like I've got much experience with dunes. But damage like that looks like a hard landing on one of our motor cross tracks or from hitting a wash out on a logging road hauling the mall. I do agree the shock shafts should not be folding over like they are. Same time though I have a feeling either the shock mounts or the a arms would fail in the same kind of impact if the shocks weren't folding up. Who knows though. There has been a couple videos posted on here showing jumps that caused the shocks to fail and they really weren't bad jumps at all.

As far as the report goes. That's sort of a toss up in small claims. I guess it would show you are not balls to the walls everytime you jump in the machine. At the same time it doesn't mean you didn't hit a jump going 60 one time and landed hard on the front. I mean even your average speed of 36mph is easily enough to total the entire machine depending on what and how you hit something. I've seen guys lawn dart on a table top going maybe 30mph and total the machine. I've also seen guys hit jumps running twice as fast and get massive air but land it nice and smooth and never miss a beat. FWIW my 900 has an average speed of probably around 9mph, But I promise I have pushed it pretty hard plenty of times. So just going off an average speed is not really all that much help. I mean when you take a trip in your truck your GPS probably puts your average speed at maybe a 1/3 of your top speed. I know when I get some where and mine shows 38 or something that doesn't mean I didn't run 80 out on the interstate for an hour straight lol

 

Seems like everyone can guess it was abused all day long but they are known for bent shocks and the dealer clearly states to the best of their knowledge there is no evidence of abuse. On a machine with such low hours it is disappointing seeing Polaris deny the claim.

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Read thru this. A lot of the post sound very familiar. One guy was going across a farm field.
http://www.rzrforums.net/rzr-xp-1000/121525-hardness-testing-results-xp1000-shock-shafts.html.

 

It's just Polaris cutting corners where they can to squeeze every bit of profit out of their products for the share holders. Pushing their parts manufactures to make parts for less money making them have to cut corners so they can make a profit while we pay Polaris premium prices. We see it in the cheap chinese springs on the 800's and bushing that won't last 6 months . It would cost them less than couple hundred dollars per unit to make it right. But that's couple hundred dollars profit for them. They see XP as xtreme profit

 

It's just Polaris cutting corners where they can to squeeze every bit of profit out of their products for the share holders. Pushing their parts manufactures to make parts for less money making them have to cut corners so they can make a profit while we pay Polaris premium prices. We see it in the cheap chinese springs on the 800's and bushing that won't last 6 months . It would cost them less than couple hundred dollars per unit to make it right. But that's couple hundred dollars profit for them. They see XP as xtreme profit

This is the answer right here.

XP = Xtreme Profits = LOVE IT !!!! :rofl3:

Good luck OP... dozens and dozens of thread about how polaris avoids warranty work on here.

And hundreds of covered warranty claims that were covered that you will never here about from Kalop .

 

Wow! That is some serious damage. I have seen the 1000 take some serious jumps and come out unscathed, which makes me wonder what type of driving was going on to cause this kind of carnage.

 

Amazed!! I have been running their stuff for 6+ years. I have seen more bent shock issues on the 1k in the last few months that I am glad I did not make the switch. I want one bad but as I learned in the past being their giunea pig doesn't pay. I will never buy the 1st year model again. I am not sure I have not even seen any xp900's doing this at all. Polaris should seriously look into these shock issues before someone gets hurt badly!!! Maybe they put too much travel and the shaft is unstable in the body at droop causing the bind.It sucks but as stated above last resort is turn it in to insurance.
Good luck!!

 

$20,000 is a lot of money for anyone to spend on a vehicle and if it has defects the manufacturer should take care of it. Thank you!

All your info and everyone's opinion's isn't going to accomplish anything...

It does allow you to vent!!!

Contact Member FJK (admin) and ask him to intervene on your behalf...

 

File a claim with your insurance company if you have full coverage..GEICO state farm etc whom ever you have they will fix it. Good luck.

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The evidence is overwhelming that damage (3 times) was a result of jumping.
1st time: Both rear CV axles broke (both!). Probably broke because of high torque applied at the maximum drive angle (likely the suspension bottomed on impact with heavy throttle)
2nd time: How do you break 3 studs off unless you had an impact side load...
3rd time: Shock rod bend location is at the fully extended rod area outside of the shock body indicating the shock was fully extended when it saw the load. The other damage indicates the A arms over rotated after the shock rods bent/broke

I didn't say he was an idiot (that was a symbolic saying). Polaris can't design in margin for the few that abuse their machines. If they did the rest of us couldn't afford them.

 

The evidence is overwhelming that damage (3 times) was a result of jumping.
1st time: Both rear CV axles broke (both!). Probably broke because of high torque applied at the maximum drive angle (likely the suspension bottomed on impact with heavy throttle)
2nd time: How do you break 3 studs off unless you had an impact side load...
3rd time: Shock rod bend location is at the fully extended rod area outside of the shock body indicating the shock was fully extended when it saw the load. The other damage indicates the A arms over rotated after the shock rods bent/broke

I didn't say he was an idiot (that was a symbolic saying). Polaris can't design in margin for the few that abuse their machines. If they did the rest of us couldn't afford them.

Sorry but with him going through 2 foot whoops how much do you expect these RZRs to take??

And significant damage 3 times! Sorry third strike you are out.

If you want to beat the living crap out of your machine then just pony up and buy new stuff to replace it when it breaks. Don't make it harder for people who have legitimate claims to not get warranty work because people like this want things fixed for free.

Sorry to make that kind of damage 3 times means you are driving it way past its limits. I agree with someone else who said go get a trophy truck if you want to run like that! I don't think the shock problems are to blame here. Anything is breakable if pushed hard enough, even shock rods made out of titanium for god sakes...

 

My dealer spilled the beans on the 2015 upgrades in an attempt to get me to purchase a 2014 gen 2 after I told him I wasn't going to purchase until July/August. He told me that for $700 - $800 any authorized Walker Evans Dealer will revalve and upgrade the XP1K shocks but he didn't have details. So I started the online hunt for information to validate this. Here is Holz Racing's offering break down:

RZR XP 1000 Shock Service/Revalve Packages
Stage1 Custom Revalve - Custom revalve all four shocks (driver/terrain specific). Includes new pistons in rear shocks + basic service/oil change and nitrogen recharge. Provides better overall performance, comfort and stability. Stage1 $370

Stage2 Custom Revalve w/ Spring Crossover nut install - Includes Stage1 Service + Installation of crossover nuts for dual springs. This is essential for making the dual springs work correctly. Helps prevent damage due to coil-bind, and allows tuning of crossover engagement height. Shocks must be disassembled for install – parts not available separately. Stage2 $425

Stage3 Custom Revalve w/Crossover nuts and HD shafts – Includes Stage1 and Stage2 package + Installation of HD shafts for front and rear shocks. Essential upgrade for Gen1 shocks. A must for racers and aggressive drivers. Stage3 $800

What is the community response to what is covered here? Not just what Holz is offering, but would this solve the issue? It appears to be a concession that something is indeed wrong with the shafts. Is PoPo silent on this because they are calculating a costly plan to correct 2014 XP1Ks? I have to say, $800 is dirt cheap for what's offered, so they must be getting incentives.

The dealer also discussed potential clutch modifications, but I haven't gone down that road yet.

 

What are the production numbers for each generation? Example...if you own # 12,345...is that a gen 1 or 2?

 

So before I buy one used I can have someone check the PCM data box and tell me how it's been driven?

 

Don't want to hijack but that's a great question/idea!!!!!

 

Maybe call walker Evans and get their input they may have some answers.

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It seems that a better clutch or one that grabs the belt better, non bending shock shafts and no noise from the front diff seems like a a few odd and ends that can corrected easily in production...