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Looking for intercom & long range communications options or recommendations

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#1 ·
Any good recommendations for in-car & long range communications these days?

I'm probably about to grab a Rugged Radio GMRS radio. We misplaced the antenna on one of the handhelds last trip. So that is motivation to get something permeant I won't be able to forget at home. I'll keep the hand helds around as spares for fiends. I'm probably goning to go with a RR over something else as they are weatherproof & already have the appropriate plugs for a hard wired intercom. I was going to go with a GMR25 as 25 watts should be fine, but then started eyeing up the G1 as it has the Bluetooth interface & was wondering if that might be worth it. I have my HAM radio extra license, but that's not really useful as nobody I ride with has anything but GMRS. I could mod a HAM radio, but I'd have to do a MARS/CAP mod & hack in a port for an intercom. I'm very capable of that, but I may as well stay within the FCC regs & save the time, unless there is a super compelling reason.

We have a 4 seater RZR Pro XP we use. A spare old Artic Cat Wildcat 2 seater for friends if we ever figure out a spare trailer & vehicle to tow it. Friends will probably be stuck with a hand held & spare hearing protection though.

Key requirements:
Hearing protection (I have enough tinnitus I need to protect what I have from a loud SxS)
Radio for talking to other vehicles up to a mile or two away. Needs to be weather resistant. We ride in the Rockies so lots of trees & twisting roads around the side of a mountain limiting line of sight & lower power radios. Bluetooth & line of sight mesh systems won't cut it. Basically GMRS as that's the most common around here.
Intercom for talking with up to 4 people in the vehicle. May skimp on headsets for back seaters for now.


Options I'm currently aware of:
  • Rugged Radio GMRS + Intercom - Fits most of the requirements, but headsets aren't wireless & it's around $1,500 for a full setup. Wireless headsets would be nice instead of the wired ones, but not a deal breaker.
  • Peltor ComTac 6 headsets - I already have a pair for me & my wife. They are good noise canceling headsets, but the "Natural Interaction Behavior" peer to peer short range wireless doesn't work well for us. The voice activation is inconsistent enough you can't rely on it, so you have to push the button on the headset, which is annoying & inconvenient. They use a low impedance mic, so aren't compatible with most normal high impecence gear. Coincidentally I think Rugged Radios also uses "non-standard" low impedance, so they likely will work there. Even if they worked great, I'd still need to get a GMRS radio.
  • Cardo Packtalk - Wireless, but not enough range for talking to another vehicle out of line of sight. Unclear if I could use these with a Bluetooth GMRS radio. At over $400 a pop, 2 cost about as much as as a RR intercom system & 2 headsets.
  • Bluetooth headsets (PackTalk?) & Rugged Radio G1 (with Bluetooth) GMRS radio. Would cut out an intercom, but I'm not sure how much that would save in terms of time or money. May end up like our ComTac's where it doesn't work as reliably as I'd like.
  • https://www.rzrforums.net/threads/d...t/threads/diy-communication-systems-and-inexpensive-radio-options.566321/unread doesn't seem like an option as it doesn't support an external radio & he's moving away from it to Packtalks or something.

Anything I've missed for options or pros & cons?
 
#2 ·
We have a RR RDM UHF/VHF mobile radio paired with the RR 696 intercom in our PXP. I like it because it just works without a lot of effort. No batteries to be charged etc. we do have a handheld radio that we can see from time to time. We simply plug in our helmets or headsets depending upon the weather and away we go. There are many other solutions and I'm sure you will get many suggestions.

Whatever solution you choose I recommend that it be hardwired.
 
#4 ·
Here's one for ya then. I have used the Walker headsets with the GMRS radio attachment, and they work well at the range for short range communication. Now what I'm looking for is a wireless headset that is NC, 2 way comms, can be GMRS, but it needs to have the ability to bluetooth to my phone for audio. The ONLY one I found is a 3M version at over $1000.00, which might be fine for a gubbermint contractor, but out of my price range..

Thoughts ?
 
#5 ·
I've got "Rugged Radio Radio Kit - G1 ADVENTURE SERIES Waterproof GMRS Mobile Radio with Antenna RK-G1" on it's way from ProuUTVparts. No intercom yet, but I was going to fiddle around with the Bluetooth interface on the radio & see if I could sort anything out on the cheaper side there. I still haven't seen anything that really convinces me that it will be a better or equal solution to a Rugged Radio setup. Only downside to the RR setup I can see is corded headsets & cost. Will see how that changes after I get things installed.
 
#8 ·
I went with TYT 7800 on my machine. It is dual transceiver and I mounted the main body under the dash and the face up on the roll bar. This makes it easy to install, easy to read and adjusts along with being pretty well protected.

I get why sticking with on frequency range makes sense now, however it is nice having both. We mostly ride with people on VHF, but being able to hit all bands is nice. I have VHF, UHF, GRMS, FRS, and MARS/CAP pre-programed. Having the dual transceiver has come in handy a couple of times when riding with groups where some people can only be on one set, I can listen/talk to both. I can also easily hand punch any frequency needed.

Of course being a mobile radio and having a good antenna has made a huge difference over handheld. Mine also has 4 power ranges that are able to be changed on the remote face. It is rare that I run anything besides low, but nice to know I have the power if needed.

I am connected through an older RR intercom.
 
#10 ·
I went with TYT 7800 on my machine. It is dual transceiver and I mounted the main body under the dash and the face up on the roll bar. This makes it easy to install, easy to read and adjusts along with being pretty well protected.

I get why sticking with on frequency range makes sense now, however it is nice having both. We mostly ride with people on VHF, but being able to hit all bands is nice. I have VHF, UHF, GRMS, FRS, and MARS/CAP pre-programed. Having the dual transceiver has come in handy a couple of times when riding with groups where some people can only be on one set, I can listen/talk to both. I can also easily hand punch any frequency needed.

Of course being a mobile radio and having a good antenna has made a huge difference over handheld. Mine also has 4 power ranges that are able to be changed on the remote face. It is rare that I run anything besides low, but nice to know I have the power if needed.

I am connected through an older RR intercom.
Did you add in an intercom port to the HAM radio? I thought about going that route, I've done the MARS/CAP mod on other gear. I just decided to buy rather than mod this go around though.
 
#13 ·
Have you looked into PCI Radios? Best in the business if you ask me. Most offroad racers in baja use them.
 
#20 ·
I have had several Rugged Radio intercom and radio setups over the years and just never got the performance out of them that I thought they should have. On my Pro XP I decided to switch from Rugged to PCI and I will never go back to Rugged. The PCI intercom is much clearer and just works flawless in conjunction with the ride command in my Pro XP. The bluetooth always connects and stays connected every time. I have the Kenwood radio and It works better than any of the Rugged versions I had. I can talk to vehicles much further away and it always sounds crystal clear. I kept my rugged headsets and they work great. I also have and use PCI pumper helmets that are prewired with coms.
 
#22 ·
Rugged G1 installed now. Wired into the Pulse bar always on circuit for the moment (which probably means until i forget to turn the radio off & kill the battery, then fix it). Stubby antenna gets me 3 miles at least & clears the garage door. 1' Rugged antenna may go on when I hit the limits of the crappy antenna.

It remains to be seen what I do for intercom & interfacing with the GMRS radio. The radio has Bluetooth & an intercom port, so I have options.