1st question - can I get by with 33% low and 35s and enjoy any type of crawl ability and belt happiness?

Yes but it will do much better with a further reduction.
Percent reduction depends on each machine and not universal across the board. What gears (part #s or tooth count)did you install?

These?
#3235232 67T Low Gear
#3236132 25T Low Gear
#3235380 27T Stage 2 Gear
#3235381 46T Reverse Gear Shaft

2nd question - what do I need hardware wise to re-gear from 33% to 54% low?

#3235450 48T Stage 2 Gear
#3235451 25T Reverse Gear Shaft

 

Joe - I had a local shop do it, so I’m not sure what part numbers were used. They were supposedly polaris parts cryo treated. I was working back when I had the shop do it, but now I’m retired and will attempt it myself if I decide to re gear. Thanks for the advice!

 

I would recommend the 23/50 Turbo R reverse shaft setup combined with a Crash City SXS clutch kit. You will be much happier overall with this setup then the 25/48 reverse gear combo.

You can buy all the above from crash city directly.

 

Why happier AJ? Lower percentage?

 

Yes. The 23/50 combo is lower than the 25/48.

23/50 is 2.17:1.

25/48 is 1.92:1.

For 35s you will be much happier with the lower ratio. And the crash city clutch kit makes for a much better all around driving experience. It’s specifically designed for machines running low gearing. And it works great!

 

Your not low enough for what your doing in this photo at 33%. Count your turns ratio to see determine what you really have in low range.

 

Billy Kamm in the broke boys Tackett creek hells revenge video is running 33/12/12 gearing with our clutch kit and put on 35’s on just for that trail and worked real well with it.

You could definitely try our clutch kit first before gearing. It’s kinda feels like a gear reduction multiplier if that makes sense lol. and if you would end up wanting more gearing then the clutch kit isn’t wasted money as it’s a upgrade that you can actually feel the difference it makes. And you don’t have to chase 1000 different weight setups to get it running decent.

The most important thing I’ve learned over the last 4 years or so talking with so many different types of riders wanting reduction is you don’t just sell them what you sell everyone else in general. You talk with them-many many times sometimes lol-to figure the gearing that matches their driving style, type of vehicle-not limited to just two or four seater-and where they ride, to determine how to gear their rzrs accordingly.

If you have a heavier foot or more agressive on the throttle you may not need the extra gearing of you have our clutch kit. If you’re a slower paced driver and crawling the rocksand don’t care if you hit 60 in high take that sucker as low as you can go.

Aj opened my eyes to super low gearing that rzr joe been running woth transmission and portals and then we put it in some jobs in the shop and wow.
Shoot me a message if you like and we can get you setup with whatever you may need.

 

thanks Crash City. Long time fan of your You Tube channel. My Son (who has 35 zillas and 54%) said the same thing about Billy having 33%. Great point on style and I am definitely a slower crawl style. Hang the fronts and give it a bump! I kinda knew in my heart if I wanted 35s I‘d have to pay the stupid tax of doing this gear reduction twice.

 

You’re not alone lol. We have one in the shop now pulling the transmission out again for more gearing!

 

Is the 23/50 Turbo R reverse shaft setup the 67% low and 25% high and reverse?

 

Depends on what machine (gearing) you are starting out with.

Using percentages to discuss gearing is an absolutely terrible way to describe it. It’s not your fault because everyone in the sxs world has done it for so long. But it’s just garbage information.

 

I’m starting to figure that out. I’m just talking in generalities as this whole gear reduction deal is kinda over my head! When industry talks about the 67/25/25 reduction in a two seat 2020 Turbo S, is it the 23/50 Turbo R parts they spec? Since it is more reduction than the 54% 25/48, I assume this is roughly the next reduction range listed, the 67%?

 

When industry talks about the 67/25/25 reduction in a two seat 2020 Turbo S, is it the 23/50 Turbo R parts they spec?

No, that is based on the 25/48 intermediate gears. Using a 23/50 will reduce all gear ratio roughly another ~13%. If you download the gearing spreadsheet from the first page and plug in your numbers it will give you % #s and final turns ratio as well as mph for each gear set selected. (I believe I uploaded the updated version).

That's why I caution everyone trying to compare % reductions between models because it is only relevant to the same model/year machine.

 

Thanks Joe…I wasn’t aware of the spreadsheet. Off to plug in number…