Never carry fuel in a rzr without a roto pak

 

X1000! - & not directly on the uninsulated bed due to heat from exhaust.

 

I have been using JAZ cans for 15 years never a problem when I bought them new I put about 1/2 gallon of gas in the cans then put them in the sun for about a week so they blow up like a balloon and stretch now they each hold 5.9 gallons each.

I have carried one of the JAZ cans in the back of my RZR for over 8000 miles never a problem the cans have at least 60k miles being hauled on my ride trips over the years only problem so far is some mutt stole one off my trailer when gas first went over 2.25 a gallon.

Thing I love the most about them is I can fill the cans here drive 2k + miles then fill all my ATV's and never spill a drop

You could not pay me to take a non JAZ can.

 

To each his own but I would never carry fuel cans in the back of my RZR unless your looking for a fire....

Some have been fortunate but too many burn it to the ground!

 

Burn to the ground using a JAZ can I would like to talk to the owner to hear what happen right from the source.

 

I've been using Scribner gas/utility cans for 18 + years only time
I had a problem is when I forgot there were 3 cans in front of a cat 633 scraper and I smashed them when I moved it out for a low bed to pick it up , other than that no troubles except the vent caps getting lost, I just bought 2 of the new lc2 cans if they do what your did my dealer will be getting them back!

Hoser we hats a Jaz can? Just a manuf. Of plastic cans or??

 

Here you go now days they are calling them water jugs to get around the stupid new can laws ..:: JAZ PRODUCTS ::.. when I bought them they were fuel cans. I bought the NATURAL 710-005-05 not the colored cans I can only vouch for the NATURAL color I have no clue if the color weakens the plastic.

I have one Scribner gas/utility its about 12 years old it has held up well but I have never hauled it in the back of my RZR IMO the Scribner brand is the cheapo version I only bought it because I had forgot my gas cans one ride trip and its all they had at Duneland lmao.

Polaris by design heats the gas in their plastic gas tanks :rofl3: and on warm days the can in the back of my RZR gets nice and warm from the built in bed heater.
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Defective... That's the most common location for the jugs to split of course. One of my F&L jugs just bit the dust in a similar fashion, only the tank just cracked on the smooth side rather than on the seam. Jug was about 10-12 years old though.

 

I've had 2 rotopax fail and I agree about plastic cans in the 1K's but I need more fuel on board (at least 5 gals). I'm thinking a fuel cell to use as a transfer tank.

Unfortunately there's nowhere on the 1Ks that a leaking fuel can doesn't get catastrophic fast. On my sportsman the cans mount in the front, I can quickly see/smell a leak and it drips off without hitting an ignition point.

 

What happened to your rotopax? Defective joint? Impact? Bad seal at the cap?

 

I've been using the Holz racing setup since I bought my rzr have 2400 miles on it and never a drop from the cans. They are just a standard can but I do check them each day and when I fill them I always turn them in all directions to make sure no leak.

 

Well I'm not counting leaks on the rotopax due to seal failures, I think there were two of those and I chalk those down more to my ignorance and not inspecting the seals often enough. But since then I do keep spares and regularly change them as necessary. I have had 6 of the 2 gal units and probably 3-4,000 miles of riding with them on a sportsman 500. I use 4 of them double wide and two high for a total of 8 gals of fuel. I got to 6 after I replaced the two units which leaked (over a year apart). The failures I refer to both happened at the joints where the cans link together. I have used them in ambient temperature ranges of 10 to 110 degrees. On some days we could have a 50+ temp swing - high desert and mountain days and nights. Hard riding on rough trails doesn't help either. I vented them regularly, but there have been occasions of severe swelling.

Based on using other plastic gas cans, I do think the Rotopax's are probably the most robust, and I might not have had the same issues with 4 gal tanks.
But on a quad if I have a leak on a can stored in front of me, I can detect it, stop (optional step I guess depending on severity) and dismount a lot easier than I can strapped into a 1K when I can't even see the cans and any smells are swept away behind me while riding.

I think the best option for using Rotopax might be in roof racks like some forum members have. I'm tired of people saying don't put fuel in the beds (and I agree wth them), but where else can we put it if we have a passenger, and 2 gals of fuel just won't cut it! I'm 6'2" and my 15yr old son is 6'4" so behind the seat isn't an option. After a couple of early & lucky scares and diligent friends preventing catastrophes - I've kept gas cans out of my rig. But if I want to use the 1K for long rides (the way I intended when I bought it) and join friends on a 1,400 mile round trip from Nevada to Montana and back (they ride quads), I need to find a way to get another 10 gals on board to cover the longer legs and potential detours. Hence my comments about a fuel cell - but we're back to the bed location.

Safety has been a big part of my professional career, and I understand that all risks can't be eliminated, but they should be managed. For me it's about likelihood of occurrence, and severity/consequences of outcome. Look I'm not interested in staying home on the couch, we're adrenaline junkies who ski chutes and trees. But when high probability (when, not if, a leak happens) of potentially fatal outcomes involve my kids, I need better risk mitigation. It's not about the money.

Guys, it's late and I've gone on too long - thanks for the tips on other brands and types, although I hear about leaks with metal cans also, I will give those a look too. A couple of gals under the seat does not seem worth giving up my second battery kit for either.

I love my 1K, but this is a key part of the puzzle I need to figure out. I'll be out of the country on vacation for a while, so bear with me if I don't respond to further comments or suggestions for a bit.

 

Have you looked at Isota's setup that goes behind the seats? It holds you 4 gallons. Another option that I see if use a clamp from UTVinc and mount it to the cross bar behind the seats and you can put the cans in the bed but elevate them an inch to keep the heat off them.

Like I said I run the Holz setup which is regular cans I just check my seals and stuff. Everyone in our group (12 RZR's) run cans in the bed because we go on 500 mile runs at a time and are usually 150 miles between fill ups.

 

Have a fun safe trip.

 

I had a Rotopax fail. Can was full. Started out at around 70 degrees and by lunch it was 85. Came out of restaurant and we see drip drip drip...

The can had swelled so much I could barely get it off the mount. The edge of the mount had bitten into the plastic and caused a crack.

Notified Rotopax and they sent me 2 new cans. These are the 3 gallon cans.

 

Been off roading in one form or another for a long time........just can't get comfortable carrying a gas can of any type above the motor on my XP1K......might consider a gas can on front bumper or possibly on my roof rack but never above the motor.

 

I'm wondering if you guys with the splitting cans, especially the Rotopax, are over filling them? You're not supposed to fill them right to the mouth, you need to leave some expansion room.

If the can says 4 gallons, put in 4 gallons, not 4.5.

 

I buy the $35 jugs.
No problems yet.
Just make sure the cap has an O ring.

Change the donkey dix every couple years.

 

Nope - always at the line or below. In my case I used 2 gal cans.

 

My ROTOPAX split inside where the twist handle is. Nothing was touching it or rubbing. Plus, they swell up so bad, you cannot twist the knob to be able to use them. I'm not really liking these. I have about $400 tied up in the mounts and ROTOPAX. They need to figure out something about them being more user friendly.

 

I love the VP cans. I have 6 or 7 of them.

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I just got 1 of these for my Baja trip ,? Where to put it

 

Is there a reason more guys don't go with the IMS auxiliary tank? Seems like the safest way to carry extra fuel and it also keeps the weight down low. I was going to order one for my 4 seater for the above reasons and to save more space for camping gear.

Am I overlooking something? If you do your own battery locate its only $350. 2 Rotopax jugs and mounts aren't much cheaper.

 

This works. Didn't really break the bank either. $100 Cad to make and powdercoat the mount. $120cad for the can and rotopax mount. Plenty of protection and its solid.

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Got my roto yesterday , took my spare tire hold down wrench thingy and welded some angle iron on both sides to make a flat mounting area for the roto mount, and since my lugs have a special socket the lug wrench part will still work, I’ll post a couple pics tonight when I get home, but it turned out nice