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Could use a little help with my ACE.

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#1 ·
I have a 2014 Ace 325cc. We took it out for our first trip over this weekend. I got this unit for my WIFE. Thought it would be better then her 2004 Yamaha Grizzle. Man was she HAPPY. But this is where we are having the PROBLEM!!! She said it was very hard to turn, and only topped out at around 47mph. It was better in four wheel drive for turning, but lost a little top speed. She is asking me to try to find her some new parts for her ACE. #1 is to somehow get better shocks! #2 is to make it wider. #3 is to some how make it a little faster!!! Please try to help me keep her happy. This is a great little machine, just needs a little loving to her. The ACE is bone stock. I'm willing to stick a little more cash into it to keep her happy and loving it. I do not what to upgrade to an ACE 570, or the RZR 570. We already have a 2014 RZR 1000. Please have someone get back to me on this... All your help would be GREAT. Lets make this ACE ROCK!!!
 
#4 ·
try wheel spacers(2" if available ) and some offset rims will get a wider more stable stance, check out some shock vendors on here, and more power or speed talk to Sparky racing, alba racing or some or vendors on here, i know super atv makes a power steering kit for it and it will make a HUGE diff in ease of turning
 
#5 ·
You can turn the wheels around and gain some width.
1" wheel spacers are required in the front when you do this so the tire filler air hose does not strike the brake when it comes around. This will give you the width/stability you are looking for.

For more power or speed you should consider the 570 ace, you will probably take a big loss on yours that is for sure if you get rid of it now in favor of the new 570

FYI the 570 has 10 more HP, not a huge amount.

The rear springs already have pre load adjusters, the front do not. You can purchase some and add them to the front shocks giving you ride height and spring rate adjustments.
 
#7 ·
Wonder if the Ace uses the same axles as an S. Then find some used a-arms off the S and weld some brackets on to mount the a-arms. Hmmmmm
 
#9 ·
As others have said, wheel spacers are good if you don't need to stay under 50".

Top speed on the ACE with stock tires should be 53 mph but you might not get it until break-in is complete. I've never topped 50mph in mine, but then I weigh 220. Skinnier people get better top speed.

There is a turbo kit in the works but it's crazy expensive - $3500. Better to sell the 325 and get the 570 instead, which has a reported top speed of about 68mph.

The SuperATV power steering kit is very helpful - I installed it in mine. But if you have a 570, you can get a Polaris kit (for twice the price) that has progressive boost.

You might not need better shocks if you try the "Suspension Seat Bracket" by Desert Molding Concepts. I have one on the way, I can report back on how much more comfortable the ride is after installation. If you buy one, please tell them that Scoundrel sent you.

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#10 ·
Paul,

I keep eyeballing those. Anxious to hear how well they work.
 
#12 ·
They work well and are well worth the $100 per seat. I have a set on my 900xp and love them. There are several threads on here and I have not seen one complaint other than the inch or so extra height they add overall.

BTW, mine are the first gen brackets, and the new ones look even better designed, fwiw.
 
#13 ·
The seat brackets arrived today, and I installed them.

What's in the box:
Tie bar
Suspension seat bracket assemblies w/2 red springs on each
2 Hard springs with red stops
2 Soft springs with blue stops
3 button head screws
4 studs
4 flange nuts
10 washers
2 urethane spacers

Tools Needed:
7/16" wrench
5/32 Allen wrench
1/8" Allen wrench
T-27 Torx bit
Small flat head screwdriver
Loctite

The instructions were written for a RZR, and thus needed some interpretation for the ACE.
The instruction video helped: Desert Molding Concepts, Inc - Install/Instructional Videos to get the idea of what they were trying to do, though it is not terribly complicated.
It took me perhaps an hour to put it together. I was not in a hurry.

It is important that nothing sticks up past the top of the flange nut into the suspension travel area, limiting it.
I ended up using one washer on the rear left, and three washers on the rear right because of the longer screw.

Because the ACE has seat slider brackets instead of a seat base, a few instructions need to be interpreted differently.
If you have some mechanical inclination, you'll figure it out pretty easily.

The front of the seat is nearly 1" higher after installation, and the angle of the seat is different because of the spring travel on the back.

Side Note: It occurred to me during installation that a taller person could produce more leg room by putting spacers between the seat frame and the ACE's slider brackets, and drilling new holes to move the seat further back.

Sitting in the ACE in the garage, I didn't feel much of a difference - but when I am on the trail and the machine is bouncing under me, that's when I'll feel it.
So I cannot report on how well it works until I go riding with it. That should happen next weekend, if I bring the ACE along for the ride (depends on whether all ATVs fit in the truck/hauler as expected).

I'll get back to you.


Also, if anyone is interested, I just installed a SSBII kit in conjunction with the "Polaris Seat Adjuster Kit" which enables you to slide the seat forward/backward like a car seat by pulling on a handle, rather than unbolting it and adjusting it and re-bolting it.

It fits right in there. because of where the SSBII mounts, it does not interfere with the seat adjuster at all.
Since the Seat Adjuster Kit already adds some height, the combined height increase makes it feel a bit like a kid's booster seat.
But my wife was able to slide the seat forward and reach the pedals and steering wheel even while wearing flip-flops (she will wear boots while riding), so it's all good. The seat adjuster kit is for her.


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#14 ·
Went on a several-day ride, and tried these out.
These things definitely take the bite out of the bumps.
The wife says the seats are more comfortable even just sitting still, and definitely when out on the trail.
I don't know how a full suspension seat feels, so I can't compare with one of those, but the price is right for one of these bracket kits for sure.
It's worth what they cost, and they're not difficult to install, so it's a good upgrade.
 
#20 ·
Thanks Desert Molding. OP, give up on the 325, it's a great machine for trails and hills; not necessarily meant for keeping up with the larger machines, out in the open, wouldn't even try the 570. The wife sounds quite skilled, time for the wonderful new 900S. I have a xp 1000 and giving it to my son and getting the 900S, it justs fits me so well. If you like to spend money and tinker, that's another story. Best of luck