I used to use lubriplate but I am not sure what it’s true use was for

 

Permatex makes a liquid teflon I use at work all the time. Comes in a bottle with brush just like antiseize.

 

Better than anti-seize?

 

Anti-Seize is great but not for all applications. 89sandman, tell us more about the liquid teflon. What do you use it for?

As for others, do you really want to risk anti-seize getting on your clutch surfaces and belt? We now have see two secondary clutches that have rusted on the transmission shafts. To prevent that we need a product to place on the shaft to keep them from rusting. Anti-Seize in that application will most likely cause a lot more problems then it fixes. Imagine trying to get all traces of anti-seize off of a belt and clutch surfaces and internals. Might as well throw them all away and buy new. There has to be a better answer.

Looking for a product that can be applied as a liquid, then dried to fasten it to shafts that will not fly off and contaminate other areas.

RZR Joe, maybe you need to rethink your answer.

 

RZR Joe, maybe you need to rethink your answer.

I guess you can't take a joke...relax dude.

 

I've used anti-seize on the splines of my secondary clutch since the first time I took it off, never found a trace on the sheaves or belt. Don't go gobbing it on there all willy nilly, a little goes a long way, but it's perfectly suitable for the application.

 

You are experienced, thinking of all the newbies and there lack of expreiace thinking "if a little is good, then a little more must be better" and all the problems they will encounter. I know there is a product that is used on clutch puller threads that is a teflon based and looks like it was heat shrunk on. Very effective and does not wear off with lots of use. If we can find that product then we all have a real winner. I am very experienced with years of mechanical background, I hesitant using Anti-Seize in that application because I have also see the aftermath of it getting in the wrong place. The down side is huge and very expensive. We can do better with a better product.

 

Why not just teach the newbies the proper use of the readily available and commonly used product?

I just feel you're trying to re-invent the wheel here, and practicality quickly takes a back seat. This is probably what you're thinking of:

ND Anti-Seize - Pre-Applied to Fasteners, Dry to the Touch

Pre-Applied anti-seize products are designed to prevent galling and seizing of fasteners during assembly and disassembly. Tack free unlike bottled products.

www.ndindustries.com

But that's not something that anyone is going to consider for a weekend garage project, nor is it cost or time effective.

There's also these ( and several other variants ), that would be slightly more practical, but I've still never seen them on the shelf at the local auto parts store, and I'm not certain of their longevity under use:

Graphite Spray™ Dry Film LubricantAnti-Seize Technology

Graphite Spray™ Dry Film Lubricant contains high purity graphite allong with an organic binder that will adhere the coating to most surfaces.

www.antiseize.com

MOLY-SPRAY Dry Film Lubricant Anti-Seize Technology

Moly-Spray Dry Film Lubricant is an air-drying,solid film lubricant convenient to apply and ready to use in minutes. It forms a thin dry film of molybdenum disulfide,which has a low coefficient of friction and effective corrosion resistance.

www.antiseize.com

SAF-T-EZE Moly Grade Anti-Seize, Moly 50, Blue Moly and Dry Moly

SAF-T-EZE Moly Grade Anti-Seize is compounded with Molybdenum Disulfide for extreme pressure applications

www.saftlok.com

 

I like the looks of this product.

Amazon.com : DuPont Teflon Non-Stick Dry-Film Lubricant Aerosol Spray, 10 Oz. : Power Tool Lubricants : Industrial & Scientific

Amazon.com : DuPont Teflon Non-Stick Dry-Film Lubricant Aerosol Spray, 10 Oz. : Power Tool Lubricants : Industrial & Scientific

www.amazon.com

 

That falls into the same category as the aerosols I linked above... I'm not certain how that's going to hold up during use in the application. Teflon lube wears off over time during use, I don't think most people pull their secondary off often enough to continually reapply a dry film lubricant. Anti seize paste will remain effective for years on those splines.

 

There must not be any wear between the secondary and the shaft or rust would not form to cause then to seize. What I like is it is cheap, many uses and very easy to get a hold of. Something one could use for many uses as a DIY. Once sprayed on it dries. Not gong to migrate out to belt etc. This is something I will use without worry of clutch issues. Think I will order it.

 

This is a thread sealant but I use it in any application that I would use antiseize in where it contacts liquid. It dries to a nonsticky film and does not dilute when exposed to liquids. Works perfect for splines where you don't want to attract grit and grime. Also makes a water tight seal to keep contaminates out. Have been using this for decades.

https://www.amazon.com/Permatex-80633-Thread-Sealant-PTFE/dp/B000HBM49W/ref=asc_df_B000HBM49W/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312141533517&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5809194973654575550&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033084&hvtargid=pla-569800664083&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=61941536837&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=312141533517&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5809194973654575550&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033084&hvtargid=pla-569800664083

 

I have never used any anti- seize or anything in that area ...and I have never had a problem.

The Polaris manual doesn't recommend it ... most people dont use it ..not a common problem. Especially if you inspect and clean you clutches like you should .

I do wire brush out the splines and scotch bright the shaft if needed ....problem solved

 

Thanks 89sandman for you sharing with the paste. I was wondering how it would work in other areas. Think I will add it to my tool box.

Max H, this seems to be a newer problem just now showing up on turbos. We have had two on this forum that had major problems getting the secondary off. One was a aftermarket, think he had to cut it off, never heard for sure. The second was OEM. He did get it off and found it was rusted on. An ounce of prevention as they say. Secondary are not cheap.

 

This stuff works very well and bonds to the metal surface
CorrosionX®

 

This stuff works very well and bonds to the metal surface
CorrosionX®

I carry a can of this with me on the RZR and also have another can in the garage, CorrosionX is a phenomenal product.

 

Have heard great thing about that product. Would add that as a good one to use.

 

Sorry for my ignorance, but could someone show me a picture of what splines we are referring to and especially of any secondary rusted on?

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Splines on the trans input shaft, which mate up with the helix in the secondary clutch:

My alignment tool is covering them, but it was the handiest pic I have:

This was a recent thread where the OP had it stuck on:

Stuck secondary

Trying to remove the secondary on a 2019 Turbo. Everything online makes it sound like it just wiggles off. I have the secondary bolt and washer off (no snap ring on 19 turbo) but I cannot get this thing off and I don’t have a puller. Any ideas? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

www.rzrforums.net

 

There has been two separate post with pictures. Will have to try later to find.

 

rzrhle, do you have experience with Blaster Dry Lube? Looked at it. Not sure how good it really is.

 

Yeah, I’ve been using it on all of my suspension and steering heim joints. Also on my shocks and A-arm Pivot points to stop squeaks. It works great to stop the squeaks. It’s the best and longest lasting dry lube that I’ve used for that purpose and I’ve tried about everything.

I’m not sure what the propellant is, but when you spray it , it’s very thin and drys leaving a slick chalky white residue of Teflon behind.

Not sure how well it would work as an anti seize on the clutch splines but I’m sure it would be better than nothing at all.

 

Thanks for you sharing your experience. We now have several products that would work it seems. Stopping rust seems to be the key.

 

Was going to make some stupid comment about staying out of the mudholes but decided to just keep my trap shut, I might meet some of you all in person someday...
Seriously, where I ride dust is the problem. I've never had a problem popping the secondary off. I do realize where some people ride staying dry is not an option.

We had an aerosol product on the C-130, was a spray dry graphite lube. Instructions said to bake it on but oven was usually unavailable for flap control shafts, too long. Stuff worked well, similar is available at Walmart and doesn't need baked, just allowed to dry. I think it stays on better than the PTFE teflon spray lube under heat or high pressure conditions, but that's just my opinion. I use the regular anti-seize on inboard axle splines but that's about all.