We don’t run front or rear sway bar.

 

Would running without a front sway bar put more stress on axles being that the sway bar isn't holding them at roughly the same angle coming out of the diff?

 

I'm in a 50-55" and lost the front bar, it's much better but beware, the spring rate will change causing one wheel impacts to potentially bottom out.

 

I don’t think any noticeable more stress. We don’t have sway bars, run 35’s with 53% low gear reduction that’s adds torque to the driveline, riding the biggest rocks that really gets the suspension in binds and workin hard and haven’t broke an stock axle yet knock on wood.

I’d have to look it up but don’t think spring rates have changed since the older models that didn’t come withfront sway bars so wouldn’t worry about the affect on spring rates.
‘15 1k before they started putting sway Bars on oem, sending it in a corner hard...

 

I upgraded to dual rate springs.
I removed front sway completely and added front Shock Therapy limit straps.
The rear was still stiff, I added Walker "links" to my swaybar to keep some control.
The ride is night and day different.

Edit. Trail riding involves many suspension hits on one side vs. dune riders with humps and whoops. I always felt like I was being thrown from side to side constantly due to sway compensation. Now the suspension acts independently and your head and neck feels the difference. I ride Eastern TN trails, 90% of the time.

 

I upgraded to dual rate springs.
I removed front sway completely and added front Shock Therapy limit straps.
The rear was still stiff, I added Walker "links" to my swaybar to keep some control.
The ride is night and day different.

Edit. Trail riding involves many suspension hits on one side vs. dune riders with humps and whoops. I always felt like I was being thrown from side to side constantly due to sway compensation. Now the suspension acts independently and your head and neck feels the difference. I ride Eastern TN trails, 90% of the time.

Damn I'm jealous of that suspension. Can't afford that right now. If I remove the front sway bar you suggest using limit straps?

 

Thought the Rti numbers were interesting

 

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Thanks man

 

We chuck them into the scrap pile as soon as the machine gets into the shop.

 

Gonna go ahead remove front bar and get limit straps.

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So are these any count. They get me close to a dual rate setup?

 

Unless your springs are broke.... My opinion is..... Just ride and save your budget for a few months and get the dual rate system later. You add a lot of adjustability. Both options would work, but the suspension is the best upgrade I have done to mine. It is like $750-$800? I can’t remember. Study and read up on how the cross over rings work to go from dual to single rate.

 

Charles does a good job in that video of explaining and touches on a lot of the things I've been saying for years. Just because you remove the sway bars or change springs does not mean you need limit straps, limit straps are 100% unnecessary on stock suspension. There are reasons to use limits straps but they are not a "must" on stock suspension.

For guys that want articulation and still limit body roll WE links are a great comprise. I ran them on all four corners with stock geometry suspension for years before switching to long travel. They allow good articulation and limit body roll.

I have been using the Halo Electronic sway bar for over a year now and it works well. @SuperATV LT Suspension, no front sway bar, Halo rear sway bar, ST Stage 4 RIS. I could drive up and over the RTI ramp

Got flex

 

That's awesome. I just have a tighter budget right now but want to improve ride quality. Or I would get a full setup WE links

 

Well...... did you get that front sway bar off yet?? I want to hear what you think!

 

No not yet been busy lately. But got a ride coming up begining of June. So I'll have it off before then. Any cheaper options for limit straps. I saw prp has some.

 

I dont run front or rear sway bars on my xp4t and I'm running portals so I'm sitting 4in higher

 

@SuperATV

 

I took the front sway bar off my 2019 XP4 Turbo S. Rides SO much better without it and I barely notice any more body roll (granted Dynamix probably helps with that). Unless you're always riding dunes or high-speed desert then I wouldn't run the front sway bar.

 

I had to go with Shock Therapy because SATV and PRP mounts both rubbed inside my wheels at full lock. The shock therapy had a angled bracked deal. Honestly, just run with out them first. With stock springs, you may be fine.

 

I keep the sway bar and run walker links…
but I need my cars to go fast one day and rock crawl the next.

 

My 2015 xp1k only had a rear sway bar when I got it. It was disconnected by previous owner till I removed it entirely. I need every bit of articulation for the riding we do.

 

I just removed my front sway bar after reading about it in this thread and others. I installed Shock Therapy springs about 2 months ago on my XP4T, and that softened the suspension quite a bit, but the front end clunk was still there. I knew what I needed to do, but I was hesitant as I rolled the RZR 2 years ago and my wife and daughter both have PTSD about it. The extra sway from the new springs didn't help, and now with the sway bar removal, my wife has that feeling back again after yesterday's test ride. She's getting better with it (the body roll feeling), but that feeling of tipsiness still freaks them both out.

As far as the sway bar being removed, I would say that it makes the front suspension smoother and quiet.
The front end, while it does have more body roll, still feels controlled and I would also say it feels more planted, since the tires can actually track the ground properly now.
We ride a "groomed" trail network we have here, and we do push some higher speeds than the guys running more technical trails, but even at higher speeds, it still felt very planted and composed.
Suffice it to say, I won't be reinstalling the front sway bar any time soon (or ever)....

 

You should play around with your shock settings and more importantly, your cross over points. You can take a lot of the sway out like that. I would never go back at this point.

 

For the riding I do I have both bars removed