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Adding shower/toilet to enclosed trailer?

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#1 ·
After frustratingly searching the web most of the weekend for toy haulers and not really finding what I want, I’m considering buying an enclosed trailer and building what I want. Basically I want a bare-bones toy hauler. I want a toilet, shower, heat, and maybe a two burner cook stove. I’d probably put AC in it eventually, but don’t need it right away. I figure I can sleep on an air mattress and a sleeping bag, and pack my food in a couple of coolers. I would only ever use it for one or occasionally two night stays so I don’t need much. I’ve searched this site for some ideas and saw some good ones, but I’d like to find some more info on the web about doing what I want to do, and suppliers that I can buy the pieces I need. Can any of you fine folks recommend any good web sites that covers do-it-yourself toy hauler building, and also recommend some on-line suppliers of RV type equipment (toilets, shower stalls, holding tanks, etc.)? Thanks in advance for your help!
 
#2 ·
It all depends how you want it setup.

You can put in a couple of tanks (one fresh, one black), no water heater, no gray tank, etc.

Or you can go all out and go separate gray,black,fresh, water heaters, enclosed showers, generator, etc.

Check out camping world or places like overtons or something to find tanks, accessories and the like.

Keep in mind that, i have seen guys do these conversions, and sell them a year later. This will add little to no value to the trailer. So plan on using it for awhile :ride:
 
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I can get you any parts you need at good prices, just pm me or mainstrv.com. But in agreement with matt, when you are done and have spent double your budget you still have a homemade trailer that is exactly what you wanted and usually nobody else agrees. I just sold a nice used toy hauler for $5k with a generator that costs over $2k. In 20 years of RV industry I have yet to hear someone say they would build their own twice!
 
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I'd like to offer my opinion. A fellow member eight ball (will) built his own trailer. He did an excellent job and after some trial and error, he's got it down pat.

I thought I would follow his lead and advice and build my own. I started pricing things out and after many months, I realized that doing it myself I may have only saved 2-3K dollars.

I found out that there were many trailers for sale from guys that had them built and were selling them for less than half price and were used only a few times.

I priced out a 24' brand new trailer with the stuff I wanted (bare minimum... shower, toilet, kitchen sink and cabinets (no bedding, no stove, no heat, just ac) for about $15K.

I decided on the same thing but I wanted aluminum and $26K later, I had a custom trailer built.

I had problems with it and the manufacturer stood behind it and built yet another one that was bigger, better, larger with more options. (heat, bedding, etc, etc)

$40K+ later, I ended up with this....


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Now obviously I ended up going overboard from my original choice but it's still simple and does what I want it to do.

My suggestion, look for a used trailer that's already done.


Mark
 
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I'd like to offer my opinion. A fellow member eight ball (will) built his own trailer. He did an excellent job and after some trial and error, he's got it down pat.

I thought I would follow his lead and advice and build my own. I started pricing things out and after many months, I realized that doing it myself I may have only saved 2-3K dollars.

I found out that there were many trailers for sale from guys that had them built and were selling them for less than half price and were used only a few times.

I priced out a 24' brand new trailer with the stuff I wanted (bare minimum... shower, toilet, kitchen sink and cabinets (no bedding, no stove, no heat, just ac) for about $15K.

I decided on the same thing but I wanted aluminum and $26K later, I had a custom trailer built.

I had problems with it and the manufacturer stood behind it and built yet another one that was bigger, better, larger with more options. (heat, bedding, etc, etc)

$40K+ later, I ended up with this....


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Now obviously I ended up going overboard from my original choice but it's still simple and does what I want it to do.

My suggestion, look for a used trailer that's already done.


Mark
Love that build! How do you like that pop out wall bed? I'm thinking of adding two along one wall. I'm 6'4" so not sure if it would even work well for me. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
 
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There are a few folk on here doing write ups of pop up campers on flatbed trailers. Not a bad way to do it on a budget. Converting an enclosed trailer into a self contained RV is going to not only be frustrating, but much more money consuming than just buying an older used hauler. There are deals out there, just gotta keep your eyes open for the next one.
 
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i just finished setting up my enclosed for weekend trips. i decided i didn't want a true toyhauler because of the cost, weight and maintenance/ winterizing. we almost always stay at campgrounds with showers and toilets. i installed electric, a fold down bed, some cabinets & fully insulated it. Going to use a 1500 watt space heater to heat it. i did buy a portable boat style toilet for the occasional camping with no toilets/showers.

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#13 ·
Im at the same point. To me the price of a toyhauler is not the problem. I cant take enough toys in one. I would like a 30' enclosed trailer with a shower and a toilet heat and air. I have checked with some of the online trailer manufacturers and I can get a nice insulated trailer for under 7k. The rest.....I can not find a way to calculate so I have not fully convinced myself to let er rip yet.
 
#14 ·
The ability to haul two rzrs is the reason we went with the enclosed trailer. Every toy hauler I looked at had enough garage space for one rzr and maybe a small atv.... I needed to carry two so my options were limited.

I had a 24' and the first 3' were bathroom. That left just enough room for two rzrs. My new trailer is 28' (anything longer than a 28' and I would have needed triple axles) and I can fit both rzrs, have 4' of bathroom space with a few feet to carry coolers, gas dollys, etc.


Mark
 
#16 ·
I have an V-nose enclosed trailer that I fixed up to take the GNCC races. I put a shower in it and installed a breaker box with an outside connection to plug my generator in to. I used the nose of the trailer to install a 6 gallon 110V water heater and a 12V pump from a camper. The water connection is on the outside by the tongue. I haul a 35 gallon water tank in the bed of my truck and run a quick connect hose to the trailer when I get to where I'm going. I installed a camper outside shower fixture in the nose close to the pump and heater. I attached a shower curtain to the ceiling of the trailer. It just goes around a Rubbermaid tub that I stand in while showering. When I'm done, I just dump the water out. It's very easy since I don't use much water.....just wet down, turn the water off, lather down, water on, and rinse off. I probably only use 5-6 gallons to shower. I use a couple of electric heaters if I need to. I also have a portable standing air conditioner that cools when needed. I just piped the exhaust out the floor in the nose. I use a queen size blow up mattress to sleep on. It's very comfortable. I only haul a quad in it but a person could do this to a bigger trailer. I only have a couple thousand in this trailer. Oh, I also added a couple of 110v outlets.....one inside and one outside. I made up a long cord for my generator to get it well away from the trailer. It's pretty quiet but I just don't want to have it close.
 

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(Quote:) Brett, everyone of us that is into the sport has the same issues. Space for all of your toys, sleeping and comfort issues, weight, cost winterizing, a place to store it at home etc. We always stay where there is showers, or at least a creek. We are out there to ride and party, so the Hilton accomodations are not necessary. I use a $95 Coleman flush toilet. 100% portable if necessary. I bring it into my shop to service it, so I don't have any winterizing to do. We camp 12 months out of the year, and have been doing so for 36 years, so roughing it is the norm. An air matress, a space heater, lighting, shelves, coat hooks, full portable camping gear and an Easy Up to stay out of the rain and sun is all we need. Set up and break down camp in 30 minutes! No freeze up worries either. Just my .02
I really wanted a big deal diesel truck, and all the pain and suffering that goes with one. But the economy tanked, and I'm glad I stayed with what I have.
Cant upload pics right now, I have to get going.
More later. (Quote)


Again, I appreciate all of the replies, but this is more what I have in mind. I probably won't do any more than a one or two night stay and no more than six times a year. It's just for my wife and I, so we don't require a lot. Thanks everyone, and please keep 'em coming!
 
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Brett, everyone of us that is into the sport has the same issues. Space for all of your toys, sleeping and comfort issues, weight, cost winterizing, a place to store it at home etc. We always stay where there is showers, or at least a creek. We are out there to ride and party, so the Hilton accomodations are not necessary. I use a $95 Coleman flush toilet. 100% portable if necessary. I bring it into my shop to service it, so I don't have any winterizing to do. We camp 12 months out of the year, and have been doing so for 36 years, so roughing it is the norm. An air matress, a space heater, lighting, shelves, coat hooks, full portable camping gear and an Easy Up to stay out of the rain and sun is all we need. Set up and break down camp in 30 minutes! No freeze up worries either. Just my .02
I really wanted a big deal diesel truck, and all the pain and suffering that goes with one. But the economy tanked, and I'm glad I stayed with what I have.
Cant upload pics right now, I have to get going.
More later
 
#21 ·
Don't give up on finding a TH that fits your needs at the right price...
I got an unbelievable deal on one a couple years ago in Phoenix...
This is a buyers market, some people are desperate to sell.

Might want to check out craigslist in Phx. Great deals come up there all the time.Off season in the summer is when the best deals come up there.
My buddy got a 2004 26' TH for $3500, everything works on it.
It is the less desirable front bathroom, with a queen sleeper in back. But lots of space for at least a RZR and quad or 2. The fold down dinet was missing though. And it needed tires, batteries, bearing repack, normal maintenance stuff, etc... The water heater works but you need to light it manually, the electric switch doesn't work from inside. It also didn't have a genny. But it did have a good working a/c unit, and a good heater, full big bathroom/shower. Nice galley setup also.

What I'm saying is, might be worth your while to take a road trip combined with maybe a Glamis or desert ohv vacation. And combine it with picking up a good deal on a used TH that fits your needs just like it sits.

jmo
 
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To me it is all about being able the haul two machines. A friend of mine is on his second trailer that he built himself. After seeing his trailer I am going to build my own. Here are a few pics of his.

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#30 ·
To me it is all about being able the haul two machines. A friend of mine is on his second trailer that he built himself. After seeing his trailer I am going to build my own. Here are a few pics of his.

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That's Will's trailer, isn't it? His trailer is the whole reason I started looking into the trailer bit.

The problem is, I don't have the time (nor skill) to do what Will did. When I priced out trailers, I found that I could have a trailer made for about $3K more. (the time and headaches are worth that)

Will is very talented, very resourceful. I know that's his second trailer because he made some mistakes/changes on the first one.

I'll bet if he was to make another, it would be even more perfect, he's definitely innovative.

I started off like that and just kept going overboard. (as usual.... I'm starting to see a pattern)


Mark
 
#32 ·
First, let me say thank you to all of you for giving me your opinions and suggestions!

Second, I went to a couple of RV dealers yesterday, both to check prices of supplies needed for a do-it-myself project and to look at new/used toy haulers. I came up with a couple of things: Doing it myself is going to cost me more than I figured, and one of the dealers can get me into a brand new toy hauler for less than I thought possible. If I already had an enclosed trailer bought and paid for then going home-built would add up better, but buying everything new makes the numbers closer than I originally thought.

At this point I'm still weighing one against the other, and the dealer still is getting me a final price and internal dimensions on the toy hauler. They didn't have any "plain Jane" toy haulers on the lot, they would have to order the one I want.

Thanks to all of your input, I'm looking at both options now. I appreciate all of your opinions - you RZR'ers are the best!
 
#33 ·
I'll tell you this and I'm sure about everyone on here will back me up. EVERY time I have started a project like that, I start adding up what it's going to cost me and EVERY time I get halfway through it, I've gone over my budget.

Most of my projects cost me at least twice what I had allowed....

And not to mention that was just for parts cost, even though I may not be paying for labor, I'm still doing the work and time is money. It's time I could have spent riding, going to the shooting range, going to the track, etc, etc.


There's deals to be found if you want to take the time to look... just my .02 worth.


Mark
 
#37 ·
I have a RIG you can buy!

You can email me at green.keepers1@gmail.com

I just bought the trailer last spring and I have already started converting the enclosed trailer to a nice setup toy hauler. My trailer has a very unique thing that most do not and you will never see one like it. I will post pictures later when I get home. But here are some specs:

25' X 8.5' wide Enclosed Hybrid Trailer (20' enclosed + 5' deck)
Double axle 5200 lb dexter axles will hold tons of weight up too 12500 lbs
--painted walls, diamond plate flooring, 50 amp motorbase plug with 4 int. outlets, int. lights, 2 ext. flood lights for loading, a RV style AC unit on roof, insulated walls and ceilings, crown moulding, has a stained wood deck on the end of trailer for outside storage or for use as a camping deck (unique feature), trailer brakes and LED trucker lighting package.

I will post pictures tonight and I am asking 12k.