I am looking at the Rzr Turbo in either the 72" or 64" width, and the question comes down to width. I will be doing a lot of trail riding here in the Sierra Nevada area and some desert/dune riding as well. What are some pros and cons with going with the wider unit? I should also mention we plan on taking the unit to other states as we travel and ride there as well. Any input, comments or suggestions would be great. Thank you.
64" or 72", does size matter in width?
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The bigger the machine (both wheelbase and track), the higher the performance potential. Wider and longer allows you to go faster over larger obstacles with ease. The faster you go the bigger machine you want. The track width is a critical component to opening up greater suspension travel. A 64” that uses wider wheels to make 72” will not be at the same performance level of a true 72”.
That being said performance, speed and comfort is all relative. A 72” wide vehicle can be a liability in some places. On tight east coast trails my concern with a 72” would be the ability to not hit an oncoming kid on a dirt bike or quad. My thoughts...
60” is the minimum for a performance based utv. 12” of travel is minimum.
64” is ideal for east coast trails optimizing travel without using every inch of the trail.
72” is ideal for east coast riders that want max performance period. Open desert or large west coast trail networks, I would consider 72” as my 1st choice.
That being said performance, speed and comfort is all relative. A 72” wide vehicle can be a liability in some places. On tight east coast trails my concern with a 72” would be the ability to not hit an oncoming kid on a dirt bike or quad. My thoughts...
60” is the minimum for a performance based utv. 12” of travel is minimum.
64” is ideal for east coast trails optimizing travel without using every inch of the trail.
72” is ideal for east coast riders that want max performance period. Open desert or large west coast trail networks, I would consider 72” as my 1st choice.
I wanted beadlocks, bought 4x3's from Alba. My Pro now measures 72. :sad
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I would also strongly recommend actually measuring the machines you are intending to buy. I bought my 2019 XP4 High lifter that was advertised as 64" wide and never laid a tape measure on it to see how wide it really was. I then purchased a toy hauler that had an inside clearance of a little more than 70 inches between the wall and the slide where the front wheels have to sit. When I got the toy hauler home I had an OH @#!% moment when I opened the back door of the hauler with the RZR sitting behind it. When I put the tape across the front end of my stock brand new machine it measure 67" wide. LUCKILY it still fit and my wife didn't have to go to jail for murder, but I only have 3" of wiggle room in the hauler VS 6".
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I bought the Turbo S Velocity, 72", in the Northeast (eastern PA). No regrets so far, but it's still early. Also, mine does measure a true 72" - others have reported 75"??
I ride with 50" 4wheelers (mostly lead by my father-in-law). He too loved all that the Velocity had to offer, but was very concerned about the width. 2 weekends ago he took us down the tightest trails he could find, in an attempt to see if we will have issues later on. Only 3 times did we not fit - 2 of which were a matter of staying to one side rather than the other, so no inconvenience at all, the other was a tight fit mid-turn that was not possible like that, so I had to turn around off to the side and come at it straight on, we fit, but slowed them down just a bit.
We're going out again this weekend for more fun and tight trail testing. I have contacted all of the parks we plan to ride (AOAA, Famous Reading, Lost Trails, HMT, Burning Rock, and several more) as well as reading first hand experience from others with 72" machines. All parks said we will fit everywhere, but may come across an occasional tight squeeze. Those with 72" machines seemed to say the same thing.
Nowhere we ride had gates limiting width, and I have no plan on riding state lands, so I do not think we will have any issues.
And just take everyone's recommendations, including my own, with a grain of salt. I did a lot of research before buying 72", and it seems like everyone narrower than 72" says "no way, hell no, won't fit" (or some variation) and everyone with them says "All clear, all good, send it."
Riding with 50" machines, I think I should find out real quick who is most accurate. 30miles in, no real issues yet. I can report back after I rack up more miles and my father-in-law tries to force us down more tight trails.
I ride with 50" 4wheelers (mostly lead by my father-in-law). He too loved all that the Velocity had to offer, but was very concerned about the width. 2 weekends ago he took us down the tightest trails he could find, in an attempt to see if we will have issues later on. Only 3 times did we not fit - 2 of which were a matter of staying to one side rather than the other, so no inconvenience at all, the other was a tight fit mid-turn that was not possible like that, so I had to turn around off to the side and come at it straight on, we fit, but slowed them down just a bit.
We're going out again this weekend for more fun and tight trail testing. I have contacted all of the parks we plan to ride (AOAA, Famous Reading, Lost Trails, HMT, Burning Rock, and several more) as well as reading first hand experience from others with 72" machines. All parks said we will fit everywhere, but may come across an occasional tight squeeze. Those with 72" machines seemed to say the same thing.
Nowhere we ride had gates limiting width, and I have no plan on riding state lands, so I do not think we will have any issues.
And just take everyone's recommendations, including my own, with a grain of salt. I did a lot of research before buying 72", and it seems like everyone narrower than 72" says "no way, hell no, won't fit" (or some variation) and everyone with them says "All clear, all good, send it."
Riding with 50" machines, I think I should find out real quick who is most accurate. 30miles in, no real issues yet. I can report back after I rack up more miles and my father-in-law tries to force us down more tight trails.
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You won’t have issues in PA cause everything is private parks, although I did have a couple VERY tight squeezes with my XP at Lost Trails. That place sucks anyway though. You’re pretty much a no-go in Maine due to narrow bridges more than anything else. You can ride, just not very far. Also NH is out. The lower half of the state is restricted to 50” and the upper half restricted to 65”. HMT could handle a 4-door Jeep on most trails I’ve been on.
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I noticed last time i went to windrock that there are now two popular trails near the parking lot with width restrictions. Here's something else to think about. One of the trails has a new 65" restriction with 4" pipe set in concrete as the gates. My 900s with beadlocks that puts it at 64" passed through barely. My buddy's turbo couldn't make it because of the extended fender flares that he put on it. Anybody that rides the area knows that most people end up putting some sort of extended fender flares on them. Just something to keep in mind.
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You sir, are correct. However, there are always places a 72” machine will not fit.
But, with that being said, I can also find places a 64” machine will not fit! Then we can go down from there and find places a 60” machine will not fit!! LOL
For me, I actually like the size of the 60” S models, but I like the ride of the 64” XP models more!!! I am sure the 72” models would be even better, but for the type of riding I do, I don’t want the turbo’ed machine......fewer potential problems.
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I mean, there are some state lands open to anything under like 58" I think, but I never had plans to ride those anyway. The group we ride with does not go up to Main or NH, so that shouldn't be a problem either. They do occasionally go into upstate NY, which I have been told can get tight, but the group also brings a few spare 4wheelers, so maybe we just ride one of those on the tighter trails.
Yeahhhh, my Jeep is 74" wide, my RZR is 72"..... BUT, the Jeep is like the 4wheeler of the ATVs, (with the exception of older vehicles like the Tracker) it the narrowest of them all, and it can make it difficult on trails where trucks or other heavily modified vehicles have widened out the tracks. I realize this is what SideXSides are doing to 4hweelers, so I guess I'm now part of the problem.
Agreed! And I am determined to find those spots early on so I can avoid them down the r̶o̶a̶d̶ trail. I also have a hatchet if push comes to chop!
And I did want a narrower RZR. I even searched for ways to make the Turbo S 64". But it's just not possible, and I have accepted that. To me, it was worth it for all of the strengthened/improved parts that came with it, but to others, that might not be the case.
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They already make one in 64", it's called a RZR Pro! Comes with improvements over the already built up Turbo S.
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They do, but I did not want to wait for it, nor did I want the first year of a new model.
Plus, I got a 2 seat Turbo S (Velocity) for $18k before state tax. Won't find a Pro XP for that price, and the look still has not grown on me, I think they're ugly.
It is interesting how few people are willing to admit they went too big.
I have driven utvs from 6” of travel to 24” of travel and there is something to be said about dimishing returns on adding more travel. Overall the 64” class of utvs offer 14-20” of travel. For a do it all performance machine this is probably the sweet spot.
64” unlocks the ideal travel without going ultra wide. Again if ultra high speed is your thing, 72”. If you just want a great, fast, overall performer... 64” will more than do the job.
I have driven utvs from 6” of travel to 24” of travel and there is something to be said about dimishing returns on adding more travel. Overall the 64” class of utvs offer 14-20” of travel. For a do it all performance machine this is probably the sweet spot.
64” unlocks the ideal travel without going ultra wide. Again if ultra high speed is your thing, 72”. If you just want a great, fast, overall performer... 64” will more than do the job.
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