OK I am not looking to start a war here. I used to have a rzr s. And I really liked it. Unfortunately someone decided they wanted it more then me. I am looking to replace it with a 50 wide. I don't have any trail size restrictions here but do have friends with quads. And Iilike to be able to crawl around in the trees. I am looking at getting a 2014 570 le. I know everyone says they are quick like the 800 but am worried going from an 800 I will find it sluggish. I really like the set up on a 570, looks way easier to do reg maintenance. I plan on a set of forward a arms and 27-28 inch tires. Probably spring spacers cause I am pretty heavy and drive aggressive. My only concern is the power. I don't care about being governed a bit lower. I very seldom get to open right up. I also like to play in the water and prefer a single cyl for that. Don't seem to mind or break as much if you accidentally swamp it. So please let me know if you think it will be a good choice. Thanks.
jon911
The only real difference is the low end grunt. I had a 2013 800 and now have
a 13 570.
As for quickness. They are very similar. But the 800 does "feel" stronger just riding
around the yard .. or on slow technical trails.
For our riding interest , which is 90% fast fire roads, we like the 570 better. I think it is
By far the best bang for the buck.
BUT... if we were going to be doing technical trails with bigger tires, I would
Suggest the 800xc. Already has better tires, eps, and nice seats.
a 13 570.
As for quickness. They are very similar. But the 800 does "feel" stronger just riding
around the yard .. or on slow technical trails.
For our riding interest , which is 90% fast fire roads, we like the 570 better. I think it is
By far the best bang for the buck.
BUT... if we were going to be doing technical trails with bigger tires, I would
Suggest the 800xc. Already has better tires, eps, and nice seats.
Disclaimer: I have not owned an 800, S or otherwise.
...However, our regular riding buddies include an 800 LE, a 900, and a quad rider on an 850 Sportsman. So I've gotten to see first hand the differences in on-the-ground performance.
Top speed
The 800 LE and the 570 are absolutely, positively dead even. WFO on the Black Rock Desert playa (the flattest place on earth) with the throttles pegged, they stay dead even. After 5 miles at top speed, they will still be within 10' of each other.
Acceleration
The 570 seems accelerate just a little bit faster than the 800. It's enough for bragging rights but not any practical difference in the real world. The 900 (and the Sportsman) both kick us all to the curb, anyway, so that keeps us humble.
Hill Climbing
We don't have any huge sand dunes we ride regularly for hill climbing. What we do have are long, rocky, steep hills that are part of trail systems. Here, our 570's transmission shines - it regularly scampers up hills the 800 cannot. It would not be out of place to say the 900 "keeps up" with the 570 on ascents of this type by virtue of horsepower.
Technical, tight terrain
Although the 800 is also a 50" machine, the 570 seems to make easier progress through tight, turn-filled bumpy trails. Not sure why, I would point to the transmission again? Still, there it is.
Last weekend, we were delighting in riding on single-track. It was great to be able to go somewhere that was not normal for a side-by-side. The 900 is too wide for this kind of trail and would regularly have to "go around" and meet us. The 800 in a 50" size handles this, too, as does the Sportsman (of course).
Since we routinely ride tight trail, and ride with ATV's, we love our 570. It has gone everywhere we've asked of it, and is better than our driving skillz.
On the other hand, if we rode wide groomed trails or dunes, of course we would have a different machine. <shrugs>
In our environment, the 570 has proven itself to be better than the 800 in every way except one: the name "570" sounds so much smaller than "800".
Flame away. It won't change the facts any and won't hurt my feelings a bit.
All the best, James
...However, our regular riding buddies include an 800 LE, a 900, and a quad rider on an 850 Sportsman. So I've gotten to see first hand the differences in on-the-ground performance.
Top speed
The 800 LE and the 570 are absolutely, positively dead even. WFO on the Black Rock Desert playa (the flattest place on earth) with the throttles pegged, they stay dead even. After 5 miles at top speed, they will still be within 10' of each other.
Acceleration
The 570 seems accelerate just a little bit faster than the 800. It's enough for bragging rights but not any practical difference in the real world. The 900 (and the Sportsman) both kick us all to the curb, anyway, so that keeps us humble.
Hill Climbing
We don't have any huge sand dunes we ride regularly for hill climbing. What we do have are long, rocky, steep hills that are part of trail systems. Here, our 570's transmission shines - it regularly scampers up hills the 800 cannot. It would not be out of place to say the 900 "keeps up" with the 570 on ascents of this type by virtue of horsepower.
Technical, tight terrain
Although the 800 is also a 50" machine, the 570 seems to make easier progress through tight, turn-filled bumpy trails. Not sure why, I would point to the transmission again? Still, there it is.
Last weekend, we were delighting in riding on single-track. It was great to be able to go somewhere that was not normal for a side-by-side. The 900 is too wide for this kind of trail and would regularly have to "go around" and meet us. The 800 in a 50" size handles this, too, as does the Sportsman (of course).
Since we routinely ride tight trail, and ride with ATV's, we love our 570. It has gone everywhere we've asked of it, and is better than our driving skillz.
On the other hand, if we rode wide groomed trails or dunes, of course we would have a different machine. <shrugs>
In our environment, the 570 has proven itself to be better than the 800 in every way except one: the name "570" sounds so much smaller than "800".
Flame away. It won't change the facts any and won't hurt my feelings a bit.
All the best, James
I don'tfind it hard to believe the 570 is close in power. Look at today's 4 cyl cars. Most make more power them the old 8. But it won't have the torque. I figure the 800 has more torque but the 570 claims to have a smoother transmission. And in tight spots the smoother power delivery will get you farther. Once you spin traction is gone. But sometimes it takes wheel speed and raw tourque to get you through. If you run a clutch kit how much will you loose off the top end. And I do agree the 800xc is a cool machine. But I want to build it to that spec. I think the building and modifying is half the fun.
I love my 570 and it has more than enough power to get me into trouble...but I drive in the deep woods and not on open sand. My RZR came with a bad crank from the factory and had to have the engine rebuild with 0 miles on it. The tail lights are now starting to melt on some and the springs sag. I have recommended to my brother in law that is in the market for a 50 inch wide is to check out the new Trail Cat by Artic Cat. Comes with LED tail lights, a real 2 inch receiver, fantastic suspension, sort of doors and priced competitively. Polaris as a company just does not impress me in quality control or in dealing with their design problems like melting tail lights...to blam the owner or say it is out of warranty just does not deserve my recommendation. They have got to step up to the plate and take responsibility for their design problems...they are not the only 50 machine on the block any more. Good luck with what ever you decide to get but I will never buy Polaris again.
I also have a 570 and do all my own maintenance. I love how easy things are to get at. Also as far as power? The 570 does everything I ask it to do. I have zero complaints about the 570. I do know there is one major difference between the 800 and 570 and that is in fuel consumption. The 570 wins that category hands down
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I have looked at the wildcat trail. But the closest dealer for them is a cpl hours away. And a friend of mine has a wildcat. But to be honest I find them to be plagued with there own problems. When we would go out it was always the wildcat that seamed to break. Even after rolling my s it was fine once I rolled it back on its wheels. But then again I like old jeeps to and they were never any good till you modded the heck out of them. It all comes down to personal taste. I am sorry you had a bad experiencewith polaris. THe dealer I go to is great. Just lucky I guess
Do some reading and you will find that people here have a fair amount of respect for the 570 I don't think I have read a single post bashing the machine in favor of the 800 although I have read many going the other way. Without a doubt the 800 engine can put out more torque at the crank but the 570 seems to do a better job getting it to the ground. I suspect when they designed the 800 transmission they figured they needn't be as concerned because of the CC's so they wound up with a mediocre setup.
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I run a 570 with 27" tires, no lift, no foward a-arms and its a good setup. my buddies w 800s pull away from me after 35mph but not by much...I havent had much trouble in 600 miles.
I own them both and I agree with most everything said. There is one thing that has not come up in this thread. One thing I Hurd him say is he was going to put bigger tires on and the 800 is harder to do it with the motor mount in the way. The 570 will pretty much take any size with no fit issues. I bought the 800 first and after I got the 570 I never got in the 800 again. The 570 has plenty of power when you are climbing or exploring in low range. They will climb like a goat with 500 extra pounds in it without a problem. Gas mileage is great.
In addition the 570 has upgraded electrical capability, I don't have the numbers handy but the stator puts out a lot more wattage than the 800 motor does. Makes a difference for those wanting lights and stereo additions.
I have a 570 LE, my husband has an S, brother-in-law has an XP and we ride with a friend that has a Wildcat. I climb hills easier and go thru the mud easier than any of the others. The turf mode is fantastic to wind thru the trees and twisty trails. The 570 has a top speed of 58 but until I hit the govenor, the S cannot pass me. I have pulled the S and the Wildcat out of the mud twice and the snow once. I watched the XP dig itself a nice big hole in the middle of a mud hole and then my 570 got to yank it out of the mud.
Everyone laughed at the "little" 570 until we went trail riding and they saw what I can do with the little RZR. They don't laugh anymore. I love my little guy and wouldn't trade it for any other machine.
I have almost 3000 miles on the 570 in 9 months and other than tearing a cv boot, have had no problems. I have put heavier springs on and run 26 inch tires and 2" spacers for more width and clearance. I added S flares so I don't get covered with mud and we snorkelled the little guy to take care of the air box problem.
I have driven the other machines and I wouldn't trade my 570 for any of them.
Everyone laughed at the "little" 570 until we went trail riding and they saw what I can do with the little RZR. They don't laugh anymore. I love my little guy and wouldn't trade it for any other machine.
I have almost 3000 miles on the 570 in 9 months and other than tearing a cv boot, have had no problems. I have put heavier springs on and run 26 inch tires and 2" spacers for more width and clearance. I added S flares so I don't get covered with mud and we snorkelled the little guy to take care of the air box problem.
I have driven the other machines and I wouldn't trade my 570 for any of them.
I believe the tranny difference is the fact the 800 tranny (and engine) design is dated probably a year before the 800 RZR was originally released; the 570 ProStar engine is new design based on the 900 ProStar engine and they share the new design tranny.[/QUOTE]
You may well be right. The push rod engines don't wind up as fast as overhead cams. My thinking was that when they engineered the 570 they gave the transmission a wider range and clutched it so it would make use of the top end. Maybe it's more of a lesson learned than an initial oversight.
You may well be right. The push rod engines don't wind up as fast as overhead cams. My thinking was that when they engineered the 570 they gave the transmission a wider range and clutched it so it would make use of the top end. Maybe it's more of a lesson learned than an initial oversight.
I'm Interco Swamplites 27x11 in rear and 27x9 in front on stock wheels. I did add spacers on rear but none up front...
Thank you very much for all the replies. You have made me feel a lot better about the choice of the little 570. I was initially attracted by the ease of maintenance but the more I look at them the more I like them. I am thinking on going with a 27 skinny wide setup with a 2 inch lift and forward offset a arms.I know they are probably not needed to clear the tires but I want the extra clearance and I believethe forward a arms will help with approach angle. I also want to run the s flares on it to keep the mud down and they just plain look great on the machine. Hopefully iI will be getting it in the next few weeks and will keep you all updated on the progress. Thanks again.
Well I finally did it. Ended up with a 2014 570 base model. So far I love the machine. Good power and nice smooth transmission. Not as plush on the bumps as the S but way easier to crawl around obstacles. Put the first round of addons on it. Brush guard, 3500# winch, flip up full windshield, locking glove box and shoulder bag, lock and ride roof and rear panel, rock sliders and ssv overhead. And for personal piece of mind a spot trace. Next up snorkels, lift then tires. I personally think the 570 is a way better and improved design over the 800. May not have the big power of the 900 but for regular trail riding it can not be beat for the money.
Congrats! It only gets better.
...or worse...meaning the endless upgrades, that is...
All the best, James
...or worse...meaning the endless upgrades, that is...
All the best, James
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