is there an issue with the rzr 1000 front shocks breaking? my buddy broke both on a jump and is in a body cast with a broken back for 6 mo. the shocks both just snapped when he landed.
1000 front shock issues?
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Did you speak directly with Mr. Walker Evans?
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Hah! No idea, but probably not, hence the 'for what its worth'. If i have to take it straight to WE I'll go there, but I'll give polaris their chance first.
On the flip side of it, my case is not nearly as major as others ive seen on here. I have a bent shock and the weld at the base of the shock is cracked on the a-arm. Im not one of the many who slammed their front tires through the wheel wells and are missing headlights and/or have busted radiators.
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I'm beginning to wonder if there isn't a a problem with the upper and lower arms on these machines. Hardened steel shouldn't bend like that without breaking, that being said they aren't designed to be subject to side load either. It's easy to blame the shock and assume the control arm damage was coincidental but if the A arms aren't holding the assembly straight under a load it could side load the shock. It would be hard to tell after the failure because of the damage.
Not saying that's the problem, just thinking out loud.
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Pretty certain I saw it also and there is a blue caged rzr in the beginning shot... If it's the same then it looks pretty bad.
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Ok..thats knarly!!:yikes:
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That's a pretty big jump. Play trophy truck and you're liable to break things.
But that seems to be the stance Polaris is taking about the shock issue, user error. Sounds like many shocks have failed with much less stress.
Polaris has ignored what should have been warranty issues since the 1st RZR's and it doesn't sound like much has changed.
We've all watched the builds on Destination Polaris. They're promoting taking all the crap they put on the 1000's off and replacing with 20K of aftermarket stuff, which by the way they won't have to warrant.
I've said for years after the way they ignored what should have been warranty issues on my 800, I'd never buy another Polaris again and they've done NOTHING to change my mind.
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Polaris is responsible for this, not Walker Evans. The shocks supplied on the XP1K are not what the WER team designed for the car. It is unfortunate when a company sells their name and let's another hack the integrity of their product, but we would all sell our brand for a price.
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Yes, it's a geometry problem after the shock bottoms out. This is why the spring kits that increase the max travel load help. Polaris can fix this if they want.
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Im sure polaris would show the video above to show how they shouldn't have to pay for anything! That was dumb!
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Watching that jump... beef up the shocks and the next weakest thing breaks. Ask the extreme jeep guys, it is vicious circle. So how far do you go to make it knucklehead proof? Either Polaris de-tunes or they get so expensive no one can afford one. These are recreational machines not meant for racing or knuckleheads that can't drive a garden tractor. I hammer mine but I don't abuse it. JMO
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What does Polaris say "XP" stands for, Extreme Performance???
Depends on what the definition of "is" is, uttered another liar, Mr Clinton.
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XP compared to what? A log wagon? Great comeback, it is all in the definition... Got a teenager?
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Not many machines could land a flat landing like that. I would have expected bent mounts or blown seals maybe even broken mounts but still not bent shafts.
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From reading the posts from the people who bent shocks I was under the impression that many of them hadn't bottomed the shocks out. If they are bending after bottoming out someone could probably make some money by designing and selling a bump stop.
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I would have expected MORE to break on that jump...... I still stick to my statement... Polaris sees stuff like that....you can't fix stupid
After seeing that video and looking at my 1K it seems clear to me what is happening. The shafts aren't bending when it bottoms out they are bending when they are fully extended. The problem isn't the geometry, it's the cheesy little 5/8" shafts. I jacked the front end up off the floor and there is about 8" of shaft sticking out and fully extended it's fairly easy to flex the shaft just pushing on it with your hand.
When you hit the ground with the shock fully extended the a-arm ties to swing the bottom end of the shock up in an arc while gravity is pushing down on the heavy body of the shock in the middle. The shock, being a shock, is trying to slow down the movement of the shaft back into the body. At some point if you jump high enough or hit a big bump with enough speed the shaft will bow faster than it can go back into the body and just fold.
When you hit the ground with the shock fully extended the a-arm ties to swing the bottom end of the shock up in an arc while gravity is pushing down on the heavy body of the shock in the middle. The shock, being a shock, is trying to slow down the movement of the shaft back into the body. At some point if you jump high enough or hit a big bump with enough speed the shaft will bow faster than it can go back into the body and just fold.
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