Sounds like you need to learn how to take care of what ever your choice is.

 

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things happen, but 3 motors in 3 years is excessive. You probably wont have any better luck with the canned ham.

 

I can understand your lack of knowledge on the matter seeing that you live in the desert in a retirement community and the extent of your offroading is crossing a patch of grass to get to a canasta game at the rec center but out here in the mountains on the east coast we have actual woods with trees and rocks and things that put a bit more wear on our machines. You can do everything right and still break parts. Most of my carnage was pulling out other riders but the conseus around here is that these things are fragile.

 

Well said!

 

Both motor issues were warrantied, which means it wasn't me just tearing stuff up.

The first came after service dept didn't assemble air box correctly and the 2nd was actually just a top end that was a result of a crack in an intake boot ingesting a little water.

 

Ok. So lets just discount the motor problems... How do you explain this:

"... 3 front diffs and had to replace axles, a arms, radius arms, tires and the clutch ... "

But anyhow onto the actual subject. I haven't driven this version of the Canned Ham, but I have driven the standard Maverick. The 1000 has an advantage.

The Maverick has had clutch issues from day 1. The 2 seat 1000 does not. The 1000 front diff is better than the standard Can-Am diff. I have not checked out the QE diff, but it still doesn't engage nearly as quick as the 1K. The new QE diff on the Can-Am engages in 1 revolution, where the 1K is 1/3 of a revolution. Your type of riding would suggest you want the quicker engagement. The 1000 is clutched stock to run 29" tires. The clutch is solid. The clutch on the Can-Am may be setup for larger tires of the mud version, but still has known issues.

 

I DO live in the mountains. My 09 is 100% stock minus a +5 kit from SuperATV. I have had absolutely 0 problems with mine. I bought it new. IN MY OPINION, which we are all entitled to have, 3 engines and diffs in 3 years does seem excessive. I would say drive them both and make a decision and go ride.
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You are right about ya ride what the terrain is you live in, short of trying when... hard one to answer.

 

Best advise I could give is to try both machines and see which one puts the biggest smile on your face.
Both are very capable machines and your always goning to get the chevy vs ford opinion. In the end it's your $$$ so only your opinion counts.
Good luck in whichever way you go.

 

That XMR has an impressive list of Mud/Mountain accessories that will covered by a warranty. I love my XP1000 but I only drive it to Star Bucks.

 

I love my XP1000 but I only drive it to Star Bucks.

:rofl3::rofl3::rofl3:

 

lol. someones hostile. I better not tell him where I live, Ill get an earful on I dont knopw what real wheelin' is. or MAYBE HE'LL TYPE IN CAPS!

 

on the review of the xmr the clutches blow up near the end of the video

 

I did demo a XMR at the dealership but you can't push any machine on a demo. I expect 9 outta 10 guys here to tell me to buy another Polaris but I'd like to know why. Hearing from anyone that owns/owned both would be ideal.

 

all im saying is they all have problems man, its up to you. whatever you get im sure you'll love and as long as your having fun who cares!

 

the front diff in the new xp1000 is 80% stronger than the 900 front diff

 

That's good to know!!! The 2k+ difference in price will net a winch, axles and radius arms too.

Will that diff fit the 900?

Are there any leaked updates coming down the pipe soon? I really like the nuclear orange

 

just remember some people can break an anvil with a banana. i have plenty of friends i ride with that tear machines up, i don't care which manufacturer makes it. get the one with a good warranty.

my point is that xmr will have problems like all of them….

good luck

Z

 

Seeing how they have warrantied everything how could you not go With polaris? And sounds like your very hard on machines. Go with can am see how they treat ya.

 

if your not happy with your machine I would just try can am for fun, more power and big tires and a lift with warranty! but personally I would be mad about the 3 engines but I guess how mad could you be if they keep fixing it for free? hell mine took a dumb with 60 miles on it with a burr in the engine from the factory and they didn't cover me I had to fix it on my dime and I still love my machine

 

It is strange to me that you've had so many problems as my 900 has been great. But I suppose this could happen with any machine. I like my 900 and really have no urge to trade up for a 1000...

That being said, it all depends on how you ride. I like my 900 better than the rest because I ride tight woods and IMO it handles the best. If you like to cruise around and romp the mud holes the Maverick may be a good choice. They have their fair share of problems like any make, but my buddy's X Rs has been a solid machine. He cleared 30" Silverbacks with no lift. My 900 pulls better through most places because of the drivetrain. His front diff grenaded during a race, and he paid extra (most was covered under warranty) for the newer Visco-Lock QE, maybe that will be better. On the short course track he is intimidated by the XP1Ks popping up on the track, but when he drives it balls to the wall he keeps up. He's finished every race and none of the XP1Ks have. If you want a comfortable, powerful, cruising, mud hole romping machine, Maverick is a good choice. I like hauling ass through tights trails and keeping it sideways, so I like my 900 better. Maverick definitely comes with nicer stuff than the RZRs.

If I were you, I would get a cheaper model Maverick, add the factory snorkel kit and get a second set of wheels/tires for mud. I would run the X LITES I have over the regular Silverbacks. Taller, lighter, better in trails and still bite hard. My buddy with the Maverick sold his Silverbacks to get X LITES after riding with me. Personally, I'm waiting to see what everyone comes out with before even thinking about selling the 900. Can Am makes good stuff but would have to completely redesign the Maverick for me to consider, not modify a utility platform.

Just food for thought.

EDIT: Two more things about the Maverick I forgot. Yes, guys are putting modified Polaris clutches in their bikes. Not sure if they are all having problems. Second is the roll cage looks beefy, but my buddy's was trash after one roll over, just like a RZR would be. Let me know if you have anymore Q's. I personally like all the machines, just choose the 900 for me.

Double EDIT: Forgot to mention, the rack deal on the Maverick isn't for me. My buddy puts a soft cooler back there, that's it. I guess the XP1K is worse then the 900 too. I really like the bed space of the 900. Another thing to think about if you use your bed a lot.

 

I'm not a polaris fan or a brp fan or any other manufacture for that matter except for Honda but they don't put out power and I have Owned sportmans to xp900 and now xp 1000 my decision was either maverick or xp 1000 and like you the brp dealership here are idiots and the polaris dealer is great they will help me whenever possible and bend over backwards to try to help me in any situation that arises so to me the dealership has a lot to do with what I'm bying thats why I went with the rzr again if your brp dealership is crap go with the rzr just remember these machines are not designed for the abuse most of us put them through so having a good dealership is very important

 

I've spent a great deal of time in the xp1k's about 1500 miles so far and many miles in a Wildcat and quite a few in the Mavericks. I've also spent a great deal of time ridding with guys that have an assortment of all three.

Here's my honest real life comparison:

Here in Southern Utah I go out with the Maverick & Wildcat guys all of the time. We are usually riding at an elevation of 3,000' to 6,000' and the terrain is mostly rocks, sand, some trails and a combo of everything.

The Maverick's still struggle especially in the rocks! The none QE models are pathetic and just go around any tuff obstacle and the QE models struggle and are still just a glorified limited slip front diff! Numerous times we are on obstacles that you need ALL 4 Wheels pulling instantly and the QE slips first then slides off the rocks and usually into the side of something that the Polaris and Wildcat drove right up! Those of you who think the QE fixes the maverick traction issues are mistaken. Ad bigger tires or get some miles on it and watch the clutch packs slip while your one front tire doesn't move! We call it a Crisco Lok��.

Also you guys are wrong if you think the Polaris 4wd system takes 1/3 of turn to engage. That's a Can am rumor to help them feel better. The Polaris system uses Hilliard clutches which when 4wd is selected a magnetic coil energizes them. There is two in each machine (1 for the front drive to engage and one between the front diff). They engage and disengage based on detection of rear axle movement being different than the front or one front wheel being different from the other. It happens so quickly your human eye or butt will not detect it. When 4wd is engaged you will never see a Polaris spin anything less than all 4 wheels! In a simple way it works just like a Ratchet wrench!

When we get to the High speed fast Whoop sections the stock Wildcat's are the best by far! The stock xp1k's are barely better than a stock 900 xp, but if you retune the xp1k with a rear revalve and simple spring swap setup, look out Wildcat! It is so much better and completely competitive with the Wildcat, especially when you look at your speed - your usually going 10mph faster because of the power!

The Maverick's are not even in the same league as these two machines when it comes to proper setup and deep whoops at speed! Wheelbase and wheeltravel rule here!

Steep Sand dunes - the xp1k easily outshines the rest, especially the Wildcat X. It's interesting, power seems to be the only real weekness of the Wildcat's. The more I'm around them and drive them the more I like them.

The Maverick used to be sort of close to the xp1k in the dunes, but now that he made a simple change to REAL Bighorn's from the 2.0's in the exact OEM size, the Maverick is much slower! The Maverick does do better on the tight twisty trails, but so does a 900 xp!

When it comes right down to real value you really can't beat the xp1k! Here's how:

It comes with almost 30" tires
It comes with a drivetrain built for the larger tires (ball joints, 12mm lugs, etc)
It comes with 14" wheels
It comes with doors
It comes with adjustable seats
It comes with massive brakes even twin caliper rears
It's way easier to work on compared to the Can Am
Polaris dealers are everywhere and much more friendly with warranty issues
Up to 4yr extended warranty
It comes with 18" of travel that's easy and inexpensive to properly tune
It comes with a true locking 4wd system so all 4 wheels spin all the time
IT COMES WITH THE MOST POWER BY FAR - especially at altitude

Imagine the other machines trying to turn the same tire and wheel package the XP1K comes with? They wouldn't even be close!

Yes, the interior is very minimal in guages and fluff, but how many times does all that stuff help your performance of just getting you up or over the obstacles in front of you?

When I sit in the Can Am at first it feels nice and I think the guages are cool, but when I drive the Can Am's I usually can't wait to get out. When I drive the other two machines you usually have to pry me out!!!

There all great machines, but until Can am redesigns the Commander based chassis and goes to at least 18" of travel, a true locking front diff, more wheelbase, which also will bring a proper tube frame - the Xp1K and the Wildcat work better in the real world!

 

I've spent a great deal of time in the xp1k's about 1500 miles so far and many miles in a Wildcat and quite a few in the Mavericks. I've also spent a great deal of time ridding with guys that have an assortment of all three.

Here's my honest real life comparison:

Here in Southern Utah I go out with the Maverick & Wildcat guys all of the time. We are usually riding at an elevation of 3,000' to 6,000' and the terrain is mostly rocks, sand, some trails and a combo of everything.

The Maverick's still struggle especially in the rocks! The none QE models are pathetic and just go around any tuff obstacle and the QE models struggle and are still just a glorified limited slip front diff! Numerous times we are on obstacles that you need ALL 4 Wheels pulling instantly and the QE slips first then slides off the rocks and usually into the side of something that the Polaris and Wildcat drove right up! Those of you who think the QE fixes the maverick traction issues are mistaken. Ad bigger tires or get some miles on it and watch the clutch packs slip while your one front tire doesn't move! We call it a Crisco Lok��.

Also you guys are wrong if you think the Polaris 4wd system takes 1/3 of turn to engage. That's a Can am rumor to help them feel better. The Polaris system uses Hilliard clutches which when 4wd is selected a magnetic coil energizes them. There is two in each machine (1 for the front drive to engage and one between the front diff). They engage and disengage based on detection of rear axle movement being different than the front or one front wheel being different from the other. It happens so quickly your human eye or butt will not detect it. When 4wd is engaged you will never see a Polaris spin anything less than all 4 wheels! In a simple way it works just like a Ratchet wrench!

When we get to the High speed fast Whoop sections the stock Wildcat's are the best by far! The stock xp1k's are barely better than a stock 900 xp, but if you retune the xp1k with a rear revalve and simple spring swap setup, look out Wildcat! It is so much better and completely competitive with the Wildcat, especially when you look at your speed - your usually going 10mph faster because of the power!

The Maverick's are not even in the same league as these two machines when it comes to proper setup and deep whoops at speed! Wheelbase and wheeltravel rule here!

Steep Sand dunes - the xp1k easily outshines the rest, especially the Wildcat X. It's interesting, power seems to be the only real weekness of the Wildcat's. The more I'm around them and drive them the more I like them.

The Maverick used to be sort of close to the xp1k in the dunes, but now that he made a simple change to REAL Bighorn's from the 2.0's in the exact OEM size, the Maverick is much slower! The Maverick does do better on the tight twisty trails, but so does a 900 xp!

When it comes right down to real value you really can't beat the xp1k! Here's how:

It comes with almost 30" tires
It comes with a drivetrain built for the larger tires (ball joints, 12mm lugs, etc)
It comes with 14" wheels
It comes with doors
It comes with adjustable seats
It comes with massive brakes even twin caliper rears
It's way easier to work on compared to the Can Am
Polaris dealers are everywhere and much more friendly with warranty issues
Up to 4yr extended warranty
It comes with 18" of travel that's easy and inexpensive to properly tune
It comes with a true locking 4wd system so all 4 wheels spin all the time
IT COMES WITH THE MOST POWER BY FAR - especially at altitude

Imagine the other machines trying to turn the same tire and wheel package the XP1K comes with? They wouldn't even be close!

Yes, the interior is very minimal in guages and fluff, but how many times does all that stuff help your performance of just getting you up or over the obstacles in front of you?

When I sit in the Can Am at first it feels nice and I think the guages are cool, but when I drive the Can Am's I usually can't wait to get out. When I drive the other two machines you usually have to pry me out!!!

There all great machines, but until Can am redesigns the Commander based chassis and goes to at least 18" of travel, more wheelbase, which also will bring a proper tube frame - the Xp1K and the Wildcat work better in the real world!

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Im a polaris guy. Love my 1k but I havnt had any problems with any of my polaris units. I have a 800 ranger also, had 2 older 700 rangers, had 4 sportsmans. Had minor wearable parts break that can be expected with any unit no matter the name. Id say giving your issues with the polaris 900 in the past you wont be happy until you try the can am. You will always have in your head that you bought the wrong unit. Try the can am and see how you fair. I love polaris but if I had the issues you mentioned on my last one I would try a different brand to see. Good luck with what ever you purchase.

 

I can say not much would piss me off more than being in a situation where life depended on all 4 wheels spinning and all 4 wheels not spinning, like teetering on the edge of something sketchy where no front pull would tip you over.

With the diff issue being addressed and my dealer being my friend I guess I need to go look at the 1k.

Is anyone making a front bumper better than the popo unit?

 

I have not owned both, but have seen Can AMs in action. In your terrain you may find the Can AM more adequate and like it, but its hard for me to believe it will out perform the 1k. Blowing up 3 engines in 3 years is hard to do, no matter the terrain. People who race don't go through engines like that. I can't say which one is more durable, but I can list facts.

Your Pros for the Maverick
The XMR pros:
Comes snorkeled -That may be evidence of your engine troubles right there. Buy a boat
Comes with warn winch - Figured into the price, I would rather have the choice of buying it.
Comes with height adj air ride and mud tires (really bumpy at low speed) - Air ride is cool, but not sure if I want it on a off road vehicle.
Onboard air compressor - can buy one for $20 at Orielly's
Adjustable eps - who cares.

Now lets really compare the machines.

Maverick:
wheel base 84.3in
RZR:
wheel base 90" longer wheel base will give a much better ride. Its about the perfect length for me. On the 900xp the 4 seater was out performing the 2 seater in whoops and hill shoot outs. This seems to be a nice compromise in wheel base. 1k4 is to long though.

Same width

ground clearance is close but the RZR has a 1/2in more.

Mavrick 101hp Dry weight 1,297
RZR 107 Dry weight 1,379
nearly the same power to weight ratio, but the RZR seems to be faster.

Maverick has 14" of travel
RZR has 2.5in WE shock 2.0 front
16"travel in front and 18" in rear
big difference in travel.

Maverick tires 27"
RZR 29"

On paper the RZR seems to out perform the Maverick. It seems that way in reality too. However The RZR has a ridiculous driveshaft problem, that is a easy fix, but still ridiculous. The Can AM could be more durable, I am not sure, but that could be about the only reason to by it over the RZR, if true, because the RZR definitely has it beat in performance.

 

That's a pretty well written response and you really found me with the last bit.

I will GLADLY take 80% of the performance for something that's rock solid reliable out of the box. I don't care about it being a little slower and a little lower and a little harder to get around a race track, I will take all that if it still gets me back to the truck and I don't find broken shit everywhere when I clean it up.

The numbers on paper are splitting hairs, I'm interested in real world abuse and how we'll each responds. If the can am is a buy and ride ticket to reliability I'm in. If it's not I'll take the Polaris.

 

I understand. I think you will find them probably very similar, and when it comes to breaking either of them, circumstantial. The same obstacle may break both machines. I am not sold that one is way more rigid or tough than the other. One thing that would interest me about the Maverick is the rear 5 link vs the RZR set up. The RZR's tend to get that windshield wiper blade motion at the top of steep hills where they want to flip to one side. Not sure if you know what I am talking about, but I think the Maverick set up would not do that. But with all that said, many will laugh when I say this, but I had a WE 900xp4 and now a 1k, and we also have a Joyner trooper 2. If its durability we are talking about, the trooper 2 is the toughest. Most people think they are Chinese pieces of shit, but they are actually built like tanks. The A arms and trailing arms are 3 times the size of the RZR's and the Axles are at least 3 times the size too. People are scared to buy them thinking they won't be able to find parts, but its actually easier than Polaris. You get a parts book with the machine, and you can go to any auto parts store and pick up parts. The con is, they only have about 14" of travel, and it weighs 700lbs more than my 900xp4 did. But if you don't jump and you mainly ride in the woods with steep hill climbs I highly recommend it. Its not as light and sporty like the RZR's but its a beast. It is a 5 speed though.

 

It's always going to be hard to compare durability of the two machines. The Maverick's are mostly bought by newer less seasoned riders and therefore never pushed as hard as the xp1k's

Also the limited wheelbase, limited wheel travel, and no front locker really limits how hard the Maverick's get used compared to the Xp1k! Top that off with less power always running through it.

 

More good posts, how much stuff did you trash on your rzr and has your mav had any issues under the same type of use?

 

I only have about 400 trail miles on the Mav. I bent a tie rod, which was really my fault, I hit a downed tree on a trail at about 30mph, but they are very weak. It's the first thing a Mav owner should change out.

I sold my RZR with about 650 trail miles. My largest issues with my RZR were the suspension pivot points are weak where they attach to the frame as they require gussets, the wheel bearings fail quickly and the ball joints broke often. Most RZRs seem to squeak and rattle a lot too. My Mav feels much more solid overall and has no squeaks or rattles thus far at all. I might have driven my RZR a little harder though, or maybe it just felt like it. My RZR engine and cvt were always flawless and performed well. I've had some friends with random engine problems though, at least one bad engine due to improper assembly.

The RZR has tons more accessories, but the Mavs only been on the market for less than two years.



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1000+/- trail miles does not a "seasoned" rider make.

IMHO you cant speak to reliability with only 400 miles on the machine.