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what do you think will happen... motor problem..

7.5K views 72 replies 27 participants last post by  tnt  
#1 ·
when I got my first xp, we went to the dunes, rode around all weekend,

i checked the oil, had to add a few oz's of anti freeze... next weekend, we went out again..

ran it pretty hard, it never got hot, 200/204 degree's

when I got home , the next day I chaned the oil,when I pulled the air box lid
it wasn't snapped in proper,the air filter was pinched in between the lid on the bottom, .. the air box was full of sand on the engine side, i mean full.
like a couple cups..

well, I notice that its using a lot of oil compared to the other, and it seems to have alot of blow by.... and now when you let off the gas it's puffing blue smoke..


so what do you think??? sand pittted the cylinder walls?

do you think warranty will fix it???:popcorn:
 
#5 ·
King Id say top end at least. P.S. tell polaris to get some freaking axles in stock and send the memos to darn dealers to grease the junky air box. Hell my dealer in pelham al still says the hose clamps are ok. I ask and then went home and blew them at 6 hrs.
 
#8 ·
when I got home , the next day I chaned the oil,when I pulled the air box lid
it wasn't snapped in proper,the air filter was pinched in between the lid on the bottom, .. the air box was full of sand on the engine side, i mean full like a couple cups..
That's too bad. Maybe you'll be the first to go BB XP and have the head's worked. K&T might have some input on the heads if they need work. Good luck.
 
#29 ·
are you sure???:scared2:




x3 he's annoying as all hell but in a sorta good way ;)
X4:rofl3:
milos
lol

x3 he's annoying as all hell but in a sorta good way ;)
thats kinda like a kick in the nuts, but I didn't really feel it:dankk2::buttkick:
:rofl3::rofl3:

Nah, not meant as a kick, I like your style most of the time, and was ticked off when they banned you over stupid stuff. I look forward to meeting you in the dunes someday!
lol...jk

Kings a really cool guy and fun to deal with.
thanks for the kind words Boss..

Hey king didn't you toast a eng in one of your xp already
yep.... it lasted 2.9 miles... popo fixed it with a new motor

what happened to your claim against polaris, you r not required to check your air filter , poss lemon law ? i think thell fix it , they have 2, let us no
i'm gonna fix it my self,...I 'd rather say they can't work on it, then them tell me they won't..for them to even offer a warranty on a sand car that does over 70 mph, jumps 50' in the air, runs in extreme conditions under water, up sides of mountains, off cliffs, and across the sahara desert on pin is unbelieve able...

be pretty hard to prove who and when then aircleaner was mis in stalled..

its about 400 bucks in parts,..if it take it out to 915 cc about 800 bucks..

I run the little car hard ..no doubt... don't wanna answer to anyone about
where , when , and how I drive it..

I've had three of these and I might just go buy another so if the one is
broke... I can still go riding... they're that much fun

I'd say 30 days is long enough to find out if anything is wrong, after that, you're on your own..

I knew when I took the air cleaner out that I should have took it in...

but in gonna say, running the air cleaner on the air box snorkel wiped
out the nikasile on the cylinder, the outher thing wrong with that mod is when
you go in the water it gets wet...

do the rebuild your self ! check the valves ,after popo did my rebuild the valves fell thru the head at about 2000 miles, all they repalced was the clyinder and rings ?
if dust hurt the pistons it hurt the valve train too Just my 3 cents
I'll check it all...pulling the head today... we'll see


I would say, if I was selling this to someone right about when they got done with this ride,you warranty's over...LOL...

 
#23 · (Edited)
DASA it's not that simply, "Big Bore" if you don't balance the crank they can cause excessive wear...you be surprised what an ouce out of balance that far away from the crank can do.

Also if you don't make use of the added air at the port in EFI don't waste your money. In other words, you need a port job, intake duct, maybe bigger injector, that works with it most people don't understand the entire afr track and just slap a BB on hope for the best, maybe some see dyno results that say little more than a tune bout it.

Best way to do a BB is with a balanced stroker crank, etc, in a kit thats been tested on and off the dyno and developed by someone that knows how to do it right. But now your talking money, money that you would spend downstream upfront to not have the BB in your motor that does little and reduces time between top ends, crank and rod parts.
 
#28 · (Edited)
Lets just say you do it right per this industry standards. To REALLY do it right you need to develop a AFR model from the air intake to the exhaust tip to the motor combustion, fuel track, not just flow the head which is a component assembly that can vary results once installed.

The most efficent way to do that is by a CFD(computational fluid dynamics) model(computer), then bench flow test the entire motor to it by prototype parts. Redesign the model based on test results, then produce all the components(intake, head, valves, exhaust, injector, etc) as a protoype. Test the protoype on a lot of XPs say 10-20 to account for all the assembly line variations redesign as req'd. This is the OEM design process.

As you can see the cost is too huge for aftermarket companies to recoupe a ROI and for customers to afford. But yes designing, lot testing, and developing a BB/Storker kit is the next best thing as opposed to two words "Big Bore" you mentioned. I call it three words "Big Bore Kit" ;)
 
#32 ·
i'm gonna fix it my self,...I 'd rather say they can't work on it, then them tell me they won't..for them to even offer a warranty on a sand car that does over 70 mph, jumps 50' in the air, runs in extreme conditions under water, up sides of mountains, off cliffs, and across the sahara desert on pin is unbelieve able...

be pretty hard to prove who and when then aircleaner was mis in stalled..

its about 400 bucks in parts,..if it take it out to 915 cc about 800 bucks..

I run the little car hard ..no doubt... don't wanna answer to anyone about
where , when , and how I drive it..

I've had three of these and I might just go buy another so if the one is
broke... I can still go riding... they're that much fun

I'd say 30 days is long enough to find out if anything is wrong, after that, you're on your own..

I knew when I took the air cleaner out that I should have took it in...

but in gonna say, running the air cleaner on the air box snorkel wiped
out the nikasile on the cylinder, the outher thing wrong with that mod is when
you go in the water it gets wet...
BINGO!

For the abuse these things take it's nuts they even offer a warranty or an extended warranty.

I used to race Maico's back in the day. The warranty lasted until you loaded it in your truck the first time. Same with all motocross bikes in those days. Just part of the dirt experiance. Not sure what they do with the new bikes.

I don't want my ride sitting in a shop for a month while they get permission to fix it from Polaris or the extended warranty company. Then if you do any mods it's another argument (and who here amongst us doesn't have or want to do some mods?) Just too much of a hassle.

I have another 43000 miles to go before I can play with my GMC Duramax exhaust/intake/programmer etc..... It sucks but I'm not taking any chances of screwing the warranty up.
 
#33 ·
when I got home , the next day I chaned the oil,when I pulled the air box lid
it wasn't snapped in proper,the air filter was pinched in between the lid on the bottom, .. the air box was full of sand on the engine side, i mean full like a couple cups..
That's too bad. Maybe you'll be the first to go BB XP and have the head's worked. K&T might have some input on the heads if they need work. Good luck.
wonder if taking it out to 915cc would make a differance thats noticable?
 
#40 ·
Glad to hear it was just rings. I have a set of OEM piston and rings in stock as well as 11.5/12/12.5:1 CP's!

Nate
 
#43 ·
Well King interesting all this BB and turbo hype talk....First question is how you gunna get all that torque to the ground? Maybe Dave a FSS can answer that question?

I dunno where you ride but I've been to OR and Glam dunes and from what I seen if you had TQ over stock @ Glam you make a good auger to plant palm trees.....lol!
 
#45 · (Edited)
They way most out here do BB's I'd say no......most don't understand air fluid flow enough to make a little air flow increase make a huge difference. I got to get to work right now but when I got some time I'll tell ya how, I kinda already did above.....Next question for you is are you wanting more torque and low end or more HP and top end? How you manipulate air will depend on your answer.

I dug holes @ Glam desert with the stock motor, it has PLENTY of torque imo. I did not @ OR it's harder packed beach sand. I was running 16 paddle Blasters and buffs @ both. The buffs worked @ Glam, not OR imo. The Blasters I don't know what to say I like them everywhere but as I said I dug holes @ Glam and got stuck. In either case I can't see needing any more tq/hp unless there was a better way to get it to the ground, imo.

And I also purchased to extended warrantee and POL will make good on it trust me.......I don't care if my car sites in the shop a while, I don't ride all the time and I plan on keeping it stock. Point is thats why POL offered the warrantee for peeps like me and I am glad they did. :)