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Toy hauler recomendation / Help picking one out

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#1 ·
Gents,

Well the wife and I went camping this weekend at River Run in Texas for muddy gra. After staying in the tent she made a comment "I want a toy hauler" so im starting to do some research to find the perfect toy hauler for our needs.

I live in Houston Texas. Most of the time we will be taking the toy hauler to ATV parks near the houston area (3-4 hour drive time). and if I had to guess we will go on 1 long trip a year (8+ hours away).
Most of the time will be spent going to ATV parks, however we do plan to take the toy hauler to the beach and various state parks and just use it as a normal camper.

I have read up some on these, but i have absolutely zero experience with toy haulers or campers so any and all advice will be much appreciated.

Notes:
I drive a 2013 Toyota Tundra 5.7 liter V8. I believe I am rated to tow something around 10,400.
I own a 2014 rzr 1000 that will have to fit in the toy hauler.

My "wish list" --> In order of most important

1) Garage space. As mentioned I will be hauling a rzr 1000. I also have a 2009 brute force 750 that I really would like to haul as well. I am not sure I can find a garage big enough to haul both but it would be very nice if I could have that option

2) "master bedroom space" --> If we ever go on long trips and have to stay overnight in a walmart parking lot I would like to be able to get to one of the beds, perferably a queen bed, without having to unload my toys. Unloading my toys is not an option as I would not sleep at all I would be thinking about someone trying to steal them.

3) I am a bigger guy. 6'3" so shower height and room to actually use the restroom would be nice.

4) Perfer to sleep 4-6. Its just me and my wife. But I would like to be able to have family come along on some trips. 2 queen beds would be great. Also, if we have more than 6 people, having room to throw out air mattresses would probably work.

I know I have a big wish list for such a small tow vehicle. Options 1 and 2 are a must. 3 and 4 is more luxury requests.
 
#2 ·
Being you are towing with a 1/2 ton truck you are going to be limited on size. I would look into a 24' toyhauler. Most have 11' of storage to the 1st cabinet.

You will not find a front bedroom toyhauler that will be able to fit your XP and your quad. You will have to put your quad in the bed of your truck.

If you are okay with no bedroom, then a front bath model may provide you more storage space.

Here is a link to give you an idea of floor plans.

Eclipse Attitude Pro Lite Series TL23FBG

http://www.forestriverinc.com/ToyHaulerTravelTrailers/Stealth/default.aspx?page=floorplans
 
#5 ·
Being you are towing with a 1/2 ton truck you are going to be limited on size. I would look into a 24' toyhauler. Most have 11' of storage to the 1st cabinet.

You will not find a front bedroom toyhauler that will be able to fit your XP and your quad. You will have to put your quad in the bed of your truck.

If you are okay with no bedroom, then a front bath model may provide you more storage space.

Here is a link to give you an idea of floor plans.

Eclipse Attitude Pro Lite Series TL23FBG

Stealth Toy Hauler Travel Trailer Floorplans by Forest River
WA2715 is nice and looks like it would haul both and still give me the front bedroom. Is this to much trailer to haul with a halfton?

SA2515 looks like it also has a front bedroom.
 
#4 ·
You wont get anything with a garage you can tow with the tundra. Like said before the quad will have to be in the bed, then look for something with 10 ft. of free space for the rzr front bed is not likely. You have to be looking for a really light hauler.
 
#7 ·
I currently tow with 1/2 ton F150 with a ecoboost. My toyhauler is 24' and weighs close to 10,000lbs fully load with my XP1000 and YFZ450 quad, 100 gallons of water, etc... My truck pulls it fine, but I would not want to go any longer.

I would stick to 24-25' toyhauler max.

How wide is your quad? you may be able to squeeze it in the kitchen area, but it is unlikely.

My suggestion is to go to a toyhauler dealer and look at all of them. Do not let the sales person tell you your truck can pull a 28' toyhauler. It will tow it, but it will be a nightmare in the wind and everytime a big rig passes you.
 
#9 ·
We had the 27' FB2312 Stealth. It had a full size front bathroom with a large corner shower which was one of my main requirements . The main requirement was finding a toy hauler that was light enough that my 1/2t chevy could/would pull as I had just bought the truck and didn't want to trade it off. There are no dealers locally who sell the Stealth as they are a California MFG trailer by Forrest river. Second I needed the RZR to fit. they do not have built in generators but come with a cheap external Gen. Closest dealer that carried them was in Corpus Christi so we drove down and took a look at them . They didn't have the model we wanted and were a bit high on ordering what we did want so we wound up buying from Giant RV in cali and had it shipped to the New Mexico/ AZ border where we met up with the shipper which only cost a couple hundred over the purchase price. It was one of the few that was light enough to allow for the weight once loaded that my truck would pull which was right at 10K. fast forward a couple years sold the truck bought a real truck/powerstroke and fusion fithwheel . Should have done that in the first place would have been cheaper but tried to go the cheaper route. We liked the stealth but LOVE the Fuzion and towing with the diesel is much easier than running on the edge of overload.
 
#10 ·
As for having to unload to overnight on the road . if we thought we might have to spend the night on the road we loaded the RZR in backwards so we could let the bed down to the hood and crawl over the rzr to sleep. Not the best situation but all we would do is sleep a few hours and hit the road.
 
#11 · (Edited)
2011 5.7 tundra (P3 brake controller + Equalizer 12k/12 WDH)
Jayco Octane T26Y

I pull this with no problem. I'll only be hauling an 800 and a smallish honda trx250 both lengthwise tandem. You should be able to fit both your toys if you put your brute force sideways under the bunks in back of 1000, given the 15 ft cargo space, but it depends on the width of your 1000 because of the stove and small wheel wells. Keep in mind though the payload capacity of Tundra sucks, so with the heavy tongue weight you have to be careful with loading. Basically you shouldn't put anything in the truck bed and minimize the RV weight in front of the axles. I wouldn't carry fresh water either.
Good luck and happy hunting!

Edit: it has ALL of your luxury requests.







 
#12 ·
This reminds me of the "always upgrading" issue I run into. If it's an option, to save yourself a lot of money in the end, I'd recommend ditching the tundra and getting a larger truck.
 
#15 ·
Livinlite is they way to go if you don't have to have all the fancy fixins. This is 32" long has a 22" garage/living area and has a front bedroom. We had the same requirements, must be able to sleep at at walmart without unloading. We haul 2 900xp's. Weights right. 9,000 loaded. My friend has a tundra with the 5.7 and it towes it fine at 65-70mph. You do feel the wind off the big trucks when they pass you. I own a 2500hd duramax and you can't tell it's behind you other than the wind off the trucks. Best part about this trailer is the cleanup, you just hose it out when you get home, no wood any where in it.
 

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#17 ·
Just talked to my wife and her needs are slightly different than mine.

She would perfer to have a smaller garage to just fit the rzr 1000 and dont worry about taking the four wheeler. then hopefully that would give us the option to have a seperate master bedroom space were we could easily sleep in a walmart parking lot.

Knowing these changes in the garage size, what should I be looking at now?

I would perfer to be able to grab something in Texas or something near the Houston area. A few of the recomendations on this thread are more west coast type trailers. I dont have to have the best and must luxurious trailer in the world so there is no need for me to drive 18 hours to grab a trailer in california that is just slighly nicer than one I could have gotten in Texas.

But I would still like the biggest possible trailer that I can pull with the Tundra.

Oh, and the wife made it clear we need to have the option to sleep atleast 4 so we can invite people to go on trips with us.
 
#19 ·
Here are a few toy haulers that I pulled up and did research on within a 250 mile radious of my house in houston.

What do you guys think? What price could I realisticly get these for?

2014 Forest River Vengeance 25v, Cedar Creek TX - 111148727 - RVTrader.com
-- I really like this one. Only issues I potentially see are the height to get in my rzr 1000 since it looks like the back beds flip up and close in the ceiling. Also, is 6,366 pounds to heavy? I think it should be fine. It is a 30 ft toy hauler

2014 Livin Lite Axxess 8.5-26, Round Rock TX - 111274744 - RVTrader.com
-- This one is ok and would be serviceable. I like how light it is at 5,400 pounds. However I know my wife wouldnt like the interior space at all.

2014 Forest River Rv Xlr Hyper Lite 24hfs, Cleburne TX - 111644023 - RVTrader.com
--- I like this one alot as well. Question is will the rzr 1000 fit width wise. This is 27 ft. weight is 5,526 pounds.


RVs - Forest River, Keystone, Jayco, Coachmen, Heartland - RVTrader.com
-- has seperate bedroom
 
#20 ·
Quality-wise Livin Lite all the way, did consider that same unit but my wife would really hate the interior (happy wife, happy life). For the Tundra towing purposes though, the Hyper-Lite would be better than the Vengeance because of the hitch weight. And those are probably dry weight specs you're posting--add a little propane, some fresh water, fueling station gas, then you're overloaded quick.
I did a year of research before pulling the trigger, looking at owners forums, looking at the units on dealers lots, checking out prices with different options online. It's not IF but WHEN will you have problems, so you have to ask if the manufacturer and dealer be willing to help you out and stand behind their product. Look at warranties as well. Most only have one year, a few like Jayco have two.
 
#22 ·
Price is usually 10-20% off msrp depending on the year model. I like that xlr the best of any of the ones listed. That one with the aluminum floor I don't know if I would go that route myself. When you get serious, and start shopping for the stuff to go inside one. Pack your rzr, all your bags, food, plates cups and all the crap that goes in a toyhauler and start moving in one at the dealer you like and see how you do on room. It also helps to see if you like where the stuff fits ect and drawer and cabinet spaces. They will fill up quick. I went from a 14ft enclosed to a 43ft 5th wheel and I was amazed how fast you can fill one up. And I'm single. Just a thought.
 
#23 ·
You sound like me, minus having to drive my truck to work. The only answer I've been able to find to pull my boat, have room for more than my wife and I (kid here soon), and be able to have the dirt toys with us is a Toterhome... I want one so bad lol. For now I have a lance camper and a trailer to be able to use the RV year round with all the toys. Good luck with whatever you choose man, this has been an ongoing battle with me as well.
 
#25 ·
Im also towing with a Tundra. Im currently in the process of ordering a new 8.5Ă—24 VRV from Livinlite. Ive done all the research already and going with a traditional toyhauler with a front bed you are almost guaranteed to be overweight. Im having some stuff moved around from their standard build and adding some options such as 5200lb axles end goal is to fit my xp4, 450r, and outlaw 90.. All said and done ill be right at the limit or even over and thats starting with a trailer weight probably under 5000lb.so with these other trailers having dry weight probably around 7000lbs I just dont see it working on paper ( yes I know the trucks are stout and have the power/brakes) there just isnt enough payload.

My doublecab 4x4 5.7 only has a payload rating of 1380lbs. Thatll get eaten up real quick with a properly loaded trailer at even 8000k lbs.

This trailer is no fuel station, no built in genny, nothing crazy and all aluminum and its still going to be heavy. Take advertised weights with a grain of salt. Look at the numbers on the tag on the exact trailer you are looking at or even ask to have it put on a scale.

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#27 ·
So, I scanned through the responses... First and foremost buy as BIG as you can right off the bat. I settled with the wife to get a small hauler off the bat and regret it ever since. I wanted a diesel pusher or large gasser class A...so I could stay nimble and change out trailers for whatever toy I ended up getting. We ended up with a 2008 Tundra 5.7 (still have this truck and its hands down the best truck I have ever owned) and a 19ft Rampage.

We then upgraded to a 27ft Eclipse toy hauler, still towing with the Tundra...and then finally a 32ft bumper pull Eclipse...which re recently sold.

First off, I own a 2012 Ram 3500 Dually and the 2008 Tundra. The Tundra out accelerates my 3500 and also has better power for passing loaded up to about 12,000lbs. Granted, the Tundra gets 6mpg towing 12k around 75mph and maybe 7-9mpg at 65pmh or slower...but its 75mph out here in AZ on the two lane to Gamis, and if you go 55 you are gonna cause a wreck.

Anyway, don't let people tell you your Tundra wont cut it with a decent sized trailer, because it will. My 2012 RAM gets 8-9mpg towing 12-13k. Yes, the 3500 stops better but the Tundra stopped my 10-12k load several times without issue over a 100,000 mile test of towing and it has 115k on it now and still feels tight like it did from day one.

Here is a pick of my setup with the Tundra.

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I regularly put my XP900 in the garage of the 27ft and loaded one quad behind it, and put another quad in the bed of my truck...and sometimes another motorcycle in the back of the toy hauler beside the quad. I also carried, wood, gas, tools, backup generators and everything else for a 3-6 day trip to glamis... I did this every year on average 3 times a month during the dune season.

You would have no problem putting the XP in the garage on this setup and the quad in your bed.

Now that I have said that, if you can afford it, yes...the 3500 I own does tow better and I would choose it over the Tundra if they were both sitting in my front yard and I had to pick....which they are. BUT, the Tundra is like 20k less...and it does accelerate faster...but maybe that's just a Ram thing.

Anyway, hope this helps since you have the Tundra...Good luck!
 
#29 ·
I went the same route you are contemplating right now lol. Let me tell you from experience that your truck WILL pull a smaller toy hauler but you won't like it. At the time I had a 1500 RAM and a 21' Rampage that only weighed 6500 lbs, and it pulled fine on flat ground but not so much in any hills. I kept that toy hauler and sold the 1500 for a single rear wheel 3500 with a Cummins. It was night and day difference. Then the wife and I decided we wanted a separate garage so we sold the Rampage and bought a 2005 Winner's Circle 35 SRV (40' Fifth Wheel) and a 2005 RAM 3500 4x4 Dually. This worked out great for us for a while. Then we wanted to try a Class A motorhome so I bought a 35ft Monaco. This worked ok but we realized a motorhome wasn't for us. So I sold the Motorhome and bought another 2007 Winner's Circle 36SRV and a 2012 RAM 3500 4x4 Dually, which is our current set-up. We really like this camper, however, I still have to tag along another trailer behind it for the 2nd RZR. Anyway the point I was trying to make is try to get what you really want the first time (within your budget) because I could have saved a lot of money if I had. Good luck on your decision.
 
#32 ·
Anyway the point I was trying to make is try to get what you really want the first time (within your budget) because I could have saved a lot of money if I had. Good luck on your decision.

This is great advice. Rather it be Trucks, Trailers or even UTV's +80% of the people on here have wasted $1000's of dollars by being conservative. You'll truly spend less by initially spending more in the long run. If your like us and only go out riding once a month May-Sept then you'll be absolutely fine with the Armada & sub -24' trailer. If your a weekend warrior with a +24' trailer then a Diesel will be in your future. Either way enjoy !! =)


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#30 ·
Prowler, why did you jump past the 2500 to the 3500, especially if it also to be a daily driver when not towing?


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