I have over 20 lights I've bought from Matt and his customer service is TOP SHELF...

I have his lights inside & outside of my enclosed trailer...

Also I have his radius 40" curved light bar, 4 cubes and a 10" bumper mount on my XP...

 

I have over 20 lights I've bought from Matt and his customer service is TOP SHELF...

I have his lights inside & outside of my enclosed trailer...

Also I have his radius 40" curved light bar, 4 cubes and a 10" bumper mount on my XP...

What lights are you using for your trailer?

Matt's Cubes... I have a 8.5 X 22' 2 lights pointing towards the rear and 2 in the rear pointing forward...

4 cubes outside to light up work area on side, 2 on rear for load ramp...

I'm lit up like a Christmas Turkey !!! Thanks to Matt... :rofl3: :rofl3: :rofl3:

Save the neck for me Clark!! :rofl3: Thanks Tim! LOL




We have sold Totorn for several years now. Great luck with them.

I sell Motoalliance as well, great respect for Peter and the gang.

I prefer to tell you about what we have, feel free to draw your own conclusions.

Totron
1) Imported light. Just like many others, including some of the Rigid components.

2) We service, sell, and warranty everything Totron directly. Many sellers send you straight back to the manufacture of the product (aka China)

3) I would like to say we have sold just about as many Totrons as anyone on this board, and have had great success. We distribute to many local Polaris dealers and off road shops within 300miles directly of us and all over the country via UPS!

4) All of ours include the plug and play wiring harness, and UPS ground shipping, we stock these ourselves, no 3rd party shipping.

5) Watch the beam patterns of many of the combo bars from others. Ours are spot/flood combo with a 8degree spot and a 90degree flood. THIS DOES MATTER!

The 20 you mentioned goes for $139.

Specs:
Model Number: TLB3120
Input Voltage: 10-30V DC
Power Consumption: 120W(3W*40pcs CREE LEDs)
Lumen Flux: 9600lm
Color Temperature: 6000-6500K
Beam Pattern: Combo/Flood(90°)/Spot(8°)


Light It Up Offroad - Fort Smith, AR

call 479-222-5398

email:lightitupoffroadfs@gmail.com

 

I have a Sirius pro light bar. I've never compared it to a Totron. The Sirius light is good quality made in the USA and seems very well Made. I think either way you'll be happy it just depends how much you value the couple things the Sirius line of lights offer.

 

I have a Sirius pro light bar. I've never compared it to a Totron. The Sirius light is good quality made in the USA and seems very well Made. I think either way you'll be happy it just depends how much you value the couple things the Sirius line of lights offer.

Straight from the horses mouth !!!

New LED Lights from Motoalliance:

First of all, we think Rigid makes amazing lights. Great stuff. Because quality is one of our three main emphases at Motoalliance (along with price and service), we try to measure any of our products (winches, plows, heaters, etc.) against the best out there. Rigid is so impressive.

Rigid has a special patented spot beam pattern that is top in the industry....meaning that their beam hits the target in the most focused way. Really nice feature, but when bouncing around outside the rider may not notice the benefit.

Otherwise, we believe we compare favorably across the board if you compare all the specification and technical data.


We are having our lights made in China. However, there are a lot of crappy companies in China (we've seen our share) and some really good ones. Our engineer tested lights from China that made all kinds of "claims" and they were absolute junk. Some "waterproof" ones leaked water within just a couple of hours. China is great at making unbelievable claims when their stuff is junk.

But not all is junk. Tons of high-end companies around the world work with China. Our testing with our current factory partner included true IP68 waterproofing, dropping 1" ballbearings onto the lenses from 25' up and no damage, ran them for 24 hours straight on DOUBLE VOLTAGE with no discoloration or fading light or unreasonably hot, etc.


The nice part about us being a true powersports' company (instead of so many importers out there that just slap labels on Chinese generic stuff) is that we have a full R&D squad that will continue to develop lights and innovate on them like we already do with our winches, bumpers, heaters, plows, etc.

So hopefully we are starting at Rigid-like levels (at a great price) while planning some pretty major expansion and innovation from here in the next three years. We'll see. Our engineer has done high-end lighting in the major manufacturing of the automotive world. He's pretty good.

Thanks!

Peter
Motoalliance

 

I've heard people say the Sirius Pro are brighter and I like that they're are made here in the USA.

Don't believe everything you've heard, some say there made in the USA when in truth there assembled in the USA... Big DIFF !!!

Google search them, it's all spelled out...

 

I've done extensive reading on this subject and I think I've narrowed my decision down to buying a bar from either of these two. I've had a hard time deciding between a 20" and 30" but I think I've settled on a 20" mounted at the top of my windshield. Just hope I can make it work with my lock and ride roof.

So I'm struggling picking between the two company's. I've heard great things about Matt and the Totron lights for 149.99 (20"). But seems I've heard people say the Sirius Pro are brighter and I like that they're are made here in the USA.

Anyone had a chance to compare the two? I'm leaning towards Sirius Pro, but before I purchased I thought I'd ask.
Thanks

I have over 20 lights I've bought from Matt and his customer service is TOP SHELF...

I have his lights inside & outside of my enclosed trailer...

Also I have his radius 40" curved light bar, 4 cubes and a 10" bumper mount on my XP...

What lights are you using for your trailer?

 

I've done extensive reading on this subject and I think I've narrowed my decision down to buying a bar from either of these two. I've had a hard time deciding between a 20" and 30" but I think I've settled on a 20" mounted at the top of my windshield. Just hope I can make it work with my lock and ride roof.

So I'm struggling picking between the two company's. I've heard great things about Matt and the Totron lights for 149.99 (20"). But seems I've heard people say the Sirius Pro are brighter and I like that they're are made here in the USA.

Anyone had a chance to compare the two? I'm leaning towards Sirius Pro, but before I purchased I thought I'd ask.
Thanks

I have over 20 lights I've bought from Matt and his customer service is TOP SHELF...

I have his lights inside & outside of my enclosed trailer...

Also I have his radius 40" curved light bar, 4 cubes and a 10" bumper mount on my XP...

What lights are you using for your trailer?

Matt's Cubes... I have a 8.5 X 22' 2 lights pointing towards the rear and 2 in the rear pointing forward...

4 cubes outside to light up work area on side, 2 on rear for load ramp...

I'm lit up like a Christmas Turkey !!! Thanks to Matt... :rofl3: :rofl3: :rofl3:

 

Bama, I have had several of the inexpensive light bars. I have never been able to justify the Baja or Rigid. I will say my last bar came from Matt at Light it up offroad. It is definitely better on brightness and beam pattern than any others I have owned. In fact I think the 30 inch I now have from him is just a little brighter than both of my other 40 inch bars. Just my 2 cents.

 

I have the Totron 30" which I purchased on Amazon for $149, my buddy bought the same one a couple weeks later for $200. They seem to be built well, no issues and brighter than I can imagine ever needing (it's almost like riding in the daylight). I looked at several lights and came to the conclusion that I could buy several Totron lights for what one of the Rigid or Polaris lights cost. To my surprise the quality has held up. Can't go wrong with Totron.

 

Totron from Matt

 

Sirius (motoalliance) Pro Corved for me, 300 watts in a 30" package. I can't wait to get it next week! I'm sure totron is fine too, but not as powerful for the size, not quite as water proof or vented afaik. Heck the 40" totron is only 240 watts. Motoalliance is running their 5 watt LEDs at 5 watts!

Yes you can buy several totron for the price of a rigid, but you won't be able to run them all at once. it's all about color temp, beam pattern, and efficiency really, or at least getting what your looking for.

I have a 10" Single row Driving beam rigid (56 watts) on my Banshee and the beam, color, and brightness if phenomenal for what it is. Of course I can't afford rigid, or BD in larger sizes, but I think the moto will be close (although the optics wont be as good unless they sell them with the driving beam in the larger sizes)

 

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Let me give you another light bar to consider. I have an Aurora 30" single row from mud-throwers.com. The light from this single row is greater then from any double row I've seen. 16,280 lumens. Half the height with more output. Mine is mounted on my XP4 1000 windshield below the visor. The nice thing is, my cover fits perfect with the light bar mounted there. For me, I won't go with any other brand. 30" SR1 only $199.

 

Those are supposedly Rigid clones (In fact I know Rigid was trying to sue them for their optics at one point) should be a real nice light bar though, but unfortunately we don't seem to get the best pricing on them here in the US. They seem to be much more of a value in other countries. Hard to find retailers for them here thanks for the link! Last time I looked they were about 90% the same price as a rigid in the US (1/2 price elsewhere) so I dismissed them completely.

edit:
Those optics look good with those and it looks like they bumped up the power a bit. I was thinking hey that's what I will do for a 10" in the grill (but now I will be pretty close to max power the RzR can produce with the sirius 30" bar and 2 trailtech HID's plus stock lights, and I just noticed sirus has a singlerow 10 out now too!. Wish they had the driving beam pattern in the auroras though. I should probably wait until I hookup the new one next week (might have to bring some drills and electrical tools out to the dunes). Saved the mud throwers link.

This guy took some auroras and rigids apart to do a comparison (granted the review is dated).
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f132/aurora-led-lights-vs-rigid-242713.html#post5439785

When I said I could buy several Totron lights, I wasn't saying running them all at once, I was indicating I could replace them if they went bad. As far as the wattage is concerned and comparing the two, I'm confident you wouldn't notice the difference between the 2 in the woods where I ride. I can't comment on the other lights cause I don't know anyone who has one.

That's true yep. Your probably more concerned about breaking them and easy replacement than I am for the dunes. Out in the dunes when there is no moon, you really want a lot of light. Although I do find it fun to just get by sometimes like in the old days Personally I love flood, with a couple spots for reading the distance too much spot pointed down in front of you will drown out your surroundings a bit.

Motoalliance. In your specs, why isn't lumens one of the specs. I think it's an important spec to have to know how much output light you are putting out to be able to compare.

I find lumen specs to be most meaningful when comparing to lights of the same brand. Almost ALL manufacturers (maybe not rigid and BD) always just list theoretical lumens, which are almost meaningless to real world output. It's a real problem in the lighting industry! I'd love to see a manufacturer list out the front lumes and blow the socks off brands listing 3x the output. Usually manufacturers just list the Typical Max LED rating from the LED manufacturer for marketing purposes. These ratings come from when the LED is driven in perfect conditions in a lab at 0 degrees not accounting for optics. Out the front lumens is what really matters, how much heat the light can dissipate, efficiency of the optics, and even the bin of the LED can all widely vary (Some LED's of the same type can be 50% brighter just due to binning alone).

For example I have this light:
[ame]http://www.amazon.com/FOURSEVENS-Maelstrom-Finish-1XRCR26650-Lumens/dp/B007JWGBCS[/ame]
800 out the front lumens.

My stepdad bought one of these:
http://www.costco.com/Duracell-Dura...0241717.html?catalogId=10701&keyword=1300+lumen&langId=-1&storeId=10301&refine=
1300 lumens!

Guess which one is actually brighter? The S12 / MMU is decently brigher! The difference is how the output was measured, theoretical vs out the front. I mean why would an SST-50 LED (duracell) running on alkaline batteries be brighter than an SST-90 running on a large lithium? I mean it's possible for the SST-50 to be brighter than an SST-90 given the right conditions and regulation, especially if the SST-90 isn't properly powered or cooled, but it's that's not typical at all! Most peopel don't know enough about LED lights to make the distinction.

 

When I said I could buy several Totron lights, I wasn't saying running them all at once, I was indicating I could replace them if they went bad. As far as the wattage is concerned and comparing the two, I'm confident you wouldn't notice the difference between the 2 in the woods where I ride. I can't comment on the other lights cause I don't know anyone who has one.

 

Hey Guys,
Correct about our SIRIUS PRO lights....they are not made in the USA.

That said, our electrical engineer has his name on a patent in the automotive industry, and any light that is on a Dodge Ram these days has passed through his hands. He's the real deal when it comes to lighting technology.

The SIRIUS PRO, according to usage in the field reports, has performed as well and even outperformed RIGID and the other big-name, high quality lights. SIRIUS PRO even passes military grade standards.

Here are a few specs and reviews:

SPECS
-5 watt, 50,000 hour LED lifespan
-Deutsch Waterproof Wiring Harness with built in strain relief included
-94% Reflector Efficiency
-10 degree Spot Beam & 20 degree Flood Beam Pattern
-IP69K Rating: Impermeable to dust and continuous immersion
-AR-1 Polycarbonate Lens Material
-Passes US MIL810-STD environmental testing
-Oversized heat sink with textured fins for increased surface area and heat transfer
-ROHS Compliant
-GORE® Pressure Equalizing Vent equalizes internal pressure while maintaining a moisture barrier
-Internal rubber bushing insulates light bar from vibration
-Stainless steel hardware & UV resistant paint
-Optional anti-theft bolts
-Limited Lifetime Warranty

PRICING
Pricing is FAR less than RIGID (we don't go through distributors), yet you can get that quality AND it comes with a high-end wiring harness.

Here are some examples:

1. 30" SIRIUS PRO: $299.99 with free shipping.
2. 30" SIRIUS PRO (curved): $349.99 with free shipping
3. 40" SIRIUS PRO: $349.99 with free shipping
4. 40" SIRIUS PRO (curved): $399.99 with free shipping


And that's before forum discount. PM me if you want a quote.


So while there's good reason for the lower cost lights (saving money and still some solid performance), for just a bit more you can get the really high end quality and show them off. . This is one of my favorite products we've ever brought to market.

Good luck in whatever choice you make. Lots of good options.

 

I probably would've went with the Sirius lights Peter, but I don't remember seeing them in my search. They sound like they're built like a tank! At a real good price.

 

No worries, Resch....maybe next time.

They are still relatively new on the market, so we are just seeing the word-of-mouth happening that we hope for. We also just brought out curved and single row models last week.

You can see all our options here: https://motoalliance.com/Site.Store.go?action=showCategoryContents&catId=221

Thanks!

 

Motoalliance. In your specs, why isn't lumens one of the specs. I think it's an important spec to have to know how much output light you are putting out to be able to compare.

 

Good question.....sorry. On the bottom of this page, you can see the lumen output of various sizes.

https://motoalliance.com/Site.Store.go?action=gotoProductDetails&id=1344

 

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Peter what is not covered in the limited lifetime warranty.

 

Good question, triton.

Should just be if there is unusual use or abuse. I'll check into the warranty documents when back in the office tomorrow. We modeled it after the other big names out there I believe -- trying to demonstrate the quality of the lights.

Again, thanks for the consideration of SIRIUS PRO. There are other good light options out there. However, in 11 years of being in the offroad business, we've seen the market going cheaper and cheaper in MSRP for various accessories. That is great for the consumers like us, but as you would guess there are trade-offs in the manufacturing quality to get to that price.

That said, not all trade offs are bad and you can still get solid performance from even the least expensive lights -- it might be a bit more uneven and not last as long, but there are good reasons to buy at price points.

Our hope at Motoalliance is that we "reverse" this cheapening process by focusing on "old school" quality while still having really great prices. But to do this, we need to avoid distributors like Tucker Rocky and Parts Unlimited. They ask for 50-70% mark-up -- no joke. So one of the reasons why some quality lights are so expensive is simply marketing mark-up. By cutting that out and going directly to you, we lose that marketing presence, but we can spend some of the money saved on quality.

So SIRIUS PRO lights focus on that quality at a much lesser cost. And we want riders to be proud of showing them off.

We do have our SIRIUS Standard lights for the really inexpensive options, too. Great choice at the low end, but there are differences in that series.


Anyway, lots of choices out there and good reasons for many of them. The only ones I'd avoid are the crazy random name lights that come from China warehouses set up in the USA. Basically a company in China buys/leases a warehouse, ships their lights there, and sells them. No QC or customer support. That kind of model can hurt many good USA powersports' businesses in that it takes a lot of business and subtly suggests all lights are the same....they are not.

We do have some $.99 auctions ending today, so you can likely get a SIRIUS or SIRIUS PRO light at a great price (lots of other accessories too):

moto-alliance | eBay

 

Also do you have or which brackets would mount the 50" to a 2016 Dodge Ram 2500 above the windshield.

 

Great post! Looking forward to you getting our new SIRIUS PRO curved light.....thanks for waiting as long as you did for us to get it to market. We are very excited about it.

 

Looks like it was just picked up to ship yesterday and I'm heading to the dunes for 4 days on friday, so it won't make it this trip. Not sure when my next trip will be as I am starting a new job in a week. Maybe I'll get to use it this season still though, but I don't get any vacation time so not sure how soon that will be.

 

Ok hopped on eBay a week ago and started bidding on some Motoalliance lights. Got 3 lights and just fired one up. I have to say I am very impressed with quality,packaging and everything you receive in the box. I will definitely be purchasing a 50" curved for my Ram. Thank you Peter

 

Great! We only have a handful of the curved 50's left in stock, so shoot me a PM if you want one and we can work out the final price.

The SIRIUS PRO really are the real deal. Took awhile to get them to market, but it's one of those things that we have a lot of pride in......kinda old school in that regard I guess.

 

This Totron was a Christmas present to my son in 2011. It's one of the first ones made by them and still works like new today. The finish on the fins has faded over the years and is now a brown color but none of the LEDs has failed. I did notice last time out it isn't as bright as my 30 inch curved bar but I'm thinking the leds are mo' betta on my newer bar.

 

Installed Sirius pro 30 today and so far so good. Seems well built...and bright!


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