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I have a couple questions for anyone familiar with Hatfield McCoy Rock House trail system in WV.

-Are there any creeks, waterfalls, coal mines, or good scenic overlooks that are a must see? What trail #'s?

-I have a RZR 1000 XP4. My wife and I always take our 4 & 5 year old with us. I have 2 bump seats which make it a 6 seater. All of my seats have seat belt harnesses including the bump seats. I understand we must all wear helmets at all times. But is it kid friendly?

I would hate to make the trip and they say my kids are not aloud on the trails with me.
 

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New laws went into affect re kids ages. Also, I’ve seen more trail cops out checking things the last three trips than I have the last 3-4 years combined. Remember, these aren’t hatfield cops anymore...these are full dnr cops with full police powers now. Kids under 6 and night riding...they are cracking down on these it seems


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New laws went into affect re kids ages. Also, I’ve seen more trail cops out checking things the last three trips than I have the last 3-4 years combined. Remember, these aren’t hatfield cops anymore...these are full dnr cops with full police powers now. Kids under 6 and night riding...they are cracking down on these it seems


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How are they checking kids ages? My son is 5 and I'd like to take him down there later this year. He could definitely pass for 6 if he remembers to say he is when the rangers ask lol. I have specifically set up his seat for use with my harnesses so he stays strapped in really well with all the angles being correct and he always wears his helmet also.
 

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I’m not sure to be honest with you, but I go there 5-6 times per year for the last 5-6 years and I’m talking with locals and the business owners they are cracking down on it. Also, I “think” a jump seat is a no go. Needs to be factory seating...”I think”...need to find the regs to be sure


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Ride the outlaw trails they cant do shit! Also hatfeild is the only money that place has coming in down there so everybody I talk to there says there not going to stop anybody from riden my son goes with me every year he is 4 now but he does very good so if I want him to ride we are and them so called rules say nobody under 6 on the trails but ride under that it says you must follow the recommended age requirements for your machine well my 900s does not say how old the passenger has to be. Just go and have a good time
 

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I also see ppl riden double on a "single" machine and drinking beer and no helmets so I'm not gana be the only one being picked on when 10 other rules are being broke
 

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For sure on the outlaw trails...we ride a thousand miles per year on them...but if going alone without bobT maps with a family...I wouldn’t necessarily be doing that.


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I have a couple questions for anyone familiar with Hatfield McCoy Rock House trail system in WV.

-Are there any creeks, waterfalls, coal mines, or good scenic overlooks that are a must see? What trail #'s?

-I have a RZR 1000 XP4. My wife and I always take our 4 & 5 year old with us. I have 2 bump seats which make it a 6 seater. All of my seats have seat belt harnesses including the bump seats. I understand we must all wear helmets at all times. But is it kid friendly?

I would hate to make the trip and they say my kids are not aloud on the trails with me.
there is a cool waterfall on the trail system but it was closed when I was last there in October but your kids would love it if it's open again, there are "wild horses" on the outlaw trails, there is a hatfeild cemetary you can see too! The ppl in gilbert are great ppl except up on the hill at twin hollow at least not to us it's a great time down there I would just go and have fun we do
 

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We are headed down in two weeks to rockhouse and the connecting trails. We have ridden both outlaw and HMT with large groups of 20+ machines. Have NEVER had problems with the DNR. Why? Because we don’t ride like jackasses in or near the roads or trail heads or in town.

I have seen the DNR at HMT, mostly at the trail heads. Wear a helmet and don’t drive wreck less and you will be fine. If you don’t want to ride with helmets or you just like to let loose a bit, ride the outlaws but ride respectfully around folks houses and on the main roads. As a community, few can ruin it for the many.

However, they know where their bread is buttered. If they harass folks who are following the rules or otherwise aren’t hurting anyone. Like all things. Money talks and it can also walk.

I have more time on the outlaw trails with my family because there is so much variety and we’ve never had to worry about the PoPo.

To each their own, just my 2 cents.


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Thanks alot for the info guys. We are going this weekend...and riding Sat & Sun. I have a Lifetime tablet with all of the trails. I wander if the outlaw trails are on the preloaded lifetime maps? I'd love to find some waterfalls, creeks, and coal mines to check out....and the Hatfield cemetary would be really cool too!
 

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We are headed down in two weeks to rockhouse and the connecting trails. We have ridden both outlaw and HMT with large groups of 20+ machines. Have NEVER had problems with the DNR. Why? Because we don’t ride like jackasses in or near the roads or trail heads or in town.

I have seen the DNR at HMT, mostly at the trail heads. Wear a helmet and don’t drive wreck less and you will be fine. If you don’t want to ride with helmets or you just like to let loose a bit, ride the outlaws but ride respectfully around folks houses and on the main roads. As a community, few can ruin it for the many.

However, they know where their bread is buttered. If they harass folks who are following the rules or otherwise aren’t hurting anyone. Like all things. Money talks and it can also walk.

I have more time on the outlaw trails with my family because there is so much variety and we’ve never had to worry about the PoPo.

To each their own, just my 2 cents.


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This is how we ride too. I've been to Pinnacle Creek twice and like you said, as long as you dont act like a Jack wagon than they're pretty lenient. Hope it's the same way at Rockhouse!
 

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Thanks alot for the info guys. We are going this weekend...and riding Sat & Sun. I have a Lifetime tablet with all of the trails. I wander if the outlaw trails are on the preloaded lifetime maps? I'd love to find some waterfalls, creeks, and coal mines to check out....and the Hatfield cemetary would be really cool too!
Some are. But some are also not color coded, just a brown track so you have no idea the difficulty.

If you are coming to RH, then you will want to go see the horses on the strip south of Gilbert. Directions below. The waterfall on RH is closed because they are reopening the mine in that area. Couple places to see at Buffalo Mountain are Death Rock (right off Trail 10 and on LTM), the Mountain on Fire, Mushroom Rock and the BM Playground (best long views of any northern system).

Eat at Trail 12 on RH and either Starters or The Smoking Pit BBQ, both in Williamson.


Gilbert Horses

From where Rockhouse Trail 12 come down to Rt. 52 at Gilbert, take a Right.

Go 6/10 of a mile on 52 to Gilbert Creek Rd, take a Left.

Go 1.9 miles to the Right Fork of Ben’s Creek Rd. It is not well marked, but if you pass under the train trestle, you went a bit too far. Take a Right on Ben’s Fork Rd.

Go 1.1 miles to the top of the hill. A gated mine entrance will be to your right, but you want to go back up to your left. It is almost a u-turn. Follow that road up the hill.

This will put you on top of the strip. At this point it is up to you and a little luck. Just follow that road looking over into each field for the horses. There are a couple of herds up on the strip so you just need to look for them.

The strip will go back for miles. If you haven’t seen any when you get to the cell tower, keep going a bit farther to a fork or intersection. If you want you can go straight up the hill in front of you or go Left and look for paths up on top of that strip. Drive around and look.

Don’t get discouraged as it might take an hour to find them, but it also make only take 5 minutes. The first time I went there, looked around for a long time, but found them after we had given up . They were in the field at the top of the hill right at the beginning.

Take some apples and a knife. It is easiest to feed them if you cut them up and feed them with a stick. Some are skittish and using a stick works great.
 

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We are headed down in two weeks to rockhouse and the connecting trails. We have ridden both outlaw and HMT with large groups of 20+ machines. Have NEVER had problems with the DNR. Why? Because we don’t ride like jackasses in or near the roads or trail heads or in town.



I have seen the DNR at HMT, mostly at the trail heads. Wear a helmet and don’t drive wreck less and you will be fine. If you don’t want to ride with helmets or you just like to let loose a bit, ride the outlaws but ride respectfully around folks houses and on the main roads. As a community, few can ruin it for the many.



However, they know where their bread is buttered. If they harass folks who are following the rules or otherwise aren’t hurting anyone. Like all things. Money talks and it can also walk.



I have more time on the outlaw trails with my family because there is so much variety and we’ve never had to worry about the PoPo.



To each their own, just my 2 cents.





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This is how we ride too. I've been to Pinnacle Creek twice and like you said, as long as you dont act like a Jack wagon than they're pretty lenient. Hope it's the same way at Rockhouse!


Thumbs up. Have fun but ride respectfully. We’ve stayed at Ashland and wagon wheel and have ridden into town on the roads. Never a problem.


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Herdfan, you just got me super pumped. My kids faces would light up if we can pull that off and see the horses.....especially feed them. Ill give it a try! Awesome info guys, I really appreciate it. I hate going to a trail system blind. With limited time, its always good to know what to see and check out!!
 

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Herdfan, you just got me super pumped. My kids faces would light up if we can pull that off and see the horses.....especially feed them. Ill give it a try! Awesome info guys, I really appreciate it. I hate going to a trail system blind. With limited time, its always good to know what to see and check out!!
Don't tell them. Let them be surprised. :)

Seriously, the horses are very tame, but they are wild animals. I have not heard of anyone getting kicked by them, but it is always a possibility. Plus they are pushy and will stick their noses into your cooler if they think that's where the food is. Once we see them, we stop and get all the apples cut up and ready so we aren't trying to do that with one of them sticking it head over our shoulders.

Maybe this little guy as grown up. He was about 3 weeks old in this pic last August.
 

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We are staying in the town of Man, WV at the northern part of RH trails. I have it all mapped out to get to the southern part past Gilbert, but have no idea how many miles each trail is. Would it be smarter for us to trailer our RZR to somewhere in Gilbert? Or is the trip from Man to Gilbert not too far for a day of riding?
 

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My son has been riding with me since about 3. The trails we usually go to are very similar to HMT so I'm not concerned about it being to rough for him.

That being said, get yourself a tablet loaded with bobt maps. I rode there for the very first time last year and with the maps I was able to know exactly where we were going. It felt like I had ridden there several times already. I would just "plan" out a trip in the morning so I knew ahead of time which turns I wanted to take. He even has all the outlaw trails marked. We did about 50/50 on official and outlaw trails throughout Indian Ridge, Pinnacle Creek, and Pocohontas.
 

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We are staying in the town of Man, WV at the northern part of RH trails. I have it all mapped out to get to the southern part past Gilbert, but have no idea how many miles each trail is. Would it be smarter for us to trailer our RZR to somewhere in Gilbert? Or is the trip from Man to Gilbert not too far for a day of riding?
you can be in gilbert from man in a hour + or - if you take the shortest route, but your a for sure going to want to check out the rockhouse on trail 40 tho! Take some paint and put your name up there ours is on the pipe lol. The horses and outlaw trails are 10 mins from gilbert and if you trailer to Gilbert there is not a trail head parking lot to park. We will be there in 3 weeks my son and I are ready to go now tho!
 
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