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Rear Toe issue

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#1 ·
So since new my 2020 XPT has pulled to the right a fair amount, especially at speed and on the highway. Has 1000 miles now. I adjusted front toe a while back to zero toe and adjusted both wheels to the left slightly to help and it did but only slightly. Today I decided to dive in a little more and try to figure it out. Machine has Super ATV boxed front arms and radius rods. I checked that the adjustable lowers in the front were equally adjusted at both points in both sides, checked that rear radius rods were set to proper length and both currently have some neg camber that I’m going to adjust out. Then for giggles I measured wheel base in each side and came up with a right side measurement that’s 1/2” shorter than left side and explains the pull the right. Upon further inspection and with strings I noticed the right rear is toed in about 5/8”. Left side was nearly perfect. It is my understanding that shortening the radius rods will not help a toe in situation as there is no pivot since the rear hub is mounted against the trailing arm. I’m thinking of shimming the front side of the hub to see if that fixes the pulling issue and if it does either look for a new set of trailing arms or possibly file warranty claim.
Has anyone else experienced anything like this ?
Other things that I have checked include.

All tires same PSI
All tires same Circumference
Nothing bent or broke
No bearing issues
No brake drag
Machine otherwise performs
Has 15” tusk bead locks and 32” coyotes with less than 200 miles, Shock Therapy dual rate spring kit.
thanks in advance.
 
#2 ·
Rear toe alignment is difficult to measure too say the least , and if anything is tweaked it can be unreliable ...Polaris doesn't give a spec so that doesn't help
In my experience measuring several stock machines it averages around .300 - .5 inch ...always Toed in.
In general I think most all agree that Polaris sets them toed in on the rear
 
#5 ·
Me and my mechanic went over it with a fine tooth comb today and see nothing bent, doesn’t mean we couldn’t have missed something but we looked pretty good and he works on Rzrs for a living. Something else to note is the right side where the excessive toe exists measures 90” which is factory spec, the left side which has nearly 0 toe measured 90-7/16”. I just want it to not pull to the right lol
 
#10 ·
When I put my Commander on the alignment machine, I found the left rear towed out over an inch. It drove horrible over 50 mph. After the alignment, like a new machine. Found nothing bent or worn. Slotted the radius arm mounting holes for adjustment. Welded washers in new mounting position. Done deal. Same would apply here.
 
#11 ·
I was under the impression along with my mechanic and the guys at Shock Therapy that the toe cannot be adjusted with the radius rods on the XP due the the hub being mounted to the trailing arms. Seems making radius rods longer or shorter would only pull the entire assembly in or out as the pivot is the front of the trailing arm. To adjust the toe the pivot would need to be at the hub….at this point I’m confused.
 
#13 ·
I'll add that the XP seems super sensitive to road crown if that means anything.
That's an interesting point. The rear toe changes throughout the suspension travel...which is way more than any road vehicle, and the road crown may help exaggerate that from center crown to shoulder. Off road, you'd likely never notice.

Another thing to check could be the rear shock setup from side to side. Shock height/ride height can effect toe in the rear. If if your ride height/shock setting is a little different from side to side, it could effect the toe from side to side.
 
#17 ·
you have some good info and not so good
go to shop with latest alignment equipment a body shop works great if they have alignment equipment they can bend trailing arm for a perfect toe off the center line of the chassis, very important to use the center line of the chassis for toe setting
big difference in handling on acceleration and hard braking especially on hard pack and loose ground
 
#18 ·
I think the bends occur just behind the shock mount on the trailing arm. This bend is only 1/16” to 3/16” out in the last 6” of the arm. You can’t see this but can find it with a good straight edge. I already replaced one trailing arm for exactly the problems you are describing. Took me forever to find this but replacing it solved the problem. Now I have these bends on both trailing arms. Toe in 9/16”. No big accident just hard driving.
 
#19 ·
I put on new trailing arms and new radius rods. Rear toe still 9/16”. And lots of camber. This must be normal. Nothing else back there to cause problems. I don’t think shock mounts will effect this or the frame mount for trailing arms. Besides they look perfectly straight. My rear plate and medial bolts to radius rods are not bent. Double sheared to cage. Ride height set to 14” on 32” tires.