Found the frame broken last nite loading to head to taylor park. Pollaris is a big scam. I have had nothing but problems with every machine ever owned. Ride hard but not stupid. Machines do not last. Polaris is junk
ROCKMOUNTAINSIDEX
You must have got a bad one. My '09 800 with 7029 hard, extremely overweight miles is still humming right along. Send us some pics, maybe the other 900 guys on here can offer a solution so you can still go on your ride.
The frame broke where the front upper arm mounts. The frame done. Repair will not lays due. To it bent the brace that is between upper and lower a arm mounts. Who knows how long it has been this way. It has been pulling to right the last couple rides. Polish is. Junk. I only live two hours form Taylor park. Thinking about taken to show why not to buy polaris.. I hope insurance takes care of Solaris problem.
Just Wondering, did it break in the Garage? They just don't break for no reason or by themselves. IMHO
2008 with 8500+ hard mountain miles overloaded and 0 failures! except a belt.
2008 with 8500+ hard mountain miles overloaded and 0 failures! except a belt.
That is likely what happened. Some guys idea of a hard landing is totally different from that of other riders. Maybe a friend did a lawn dart landing when he wasn't around.
But I have unintentionally beat my RZR on several occasions. Rocks buried in leaves or snow that damn near put me out the windshield. Upon inspection of the damage at my shop, all I could really say to myself is I should have either stayed off that trail when it was covered over, or I should have been driving slower. I own every scratch, dent and broken part on my old RZR. Period! I have a wall lined with broken parts that I call the Wall of Shame. But I am old school and I man up to my errors and don't pass the buck to someone else. It is what it is and I move on.
But I have unintentionally beat my RZR on several occasions. Rocks buried in leaves or snow that damn near put me out the windshield. Upon inspection of the damage at my shop, all I could really say to myself is I should have either stayed off that trail when it was covered over, or I should have been driving slower. I own every scratch, dent and broken part on my old RZR. Period! I have a wall lined with broken parts that I call the Wall of Shame. But I am old school and I man up to my errors and don't pass the buck to someone else. It is what it is and I move on.
I am a charter member of The Dumb Ass Club. We now have thousands of members worldwide! Picture this: 1977. Long, hard racing season at the local drag strip. Countless days and nights keeping the bracket car in top shape. Nearly wore the threads out on the tire valve stems just tweaking pressures, adjusting timing, lifters, carb settings etc. 4 gallons of fuel in the tank to stay light enough for a good speed, yet heavy enough to weigh in correctly at the top end. Final day of racing for the season. 7 points away from the big trophy and 2 handsome checks! All I have to do is qualify and complete one run to cruise to a victory.
I qualify with a spot on time!! One more run. The guy in the other lane is a total goober with a junk pile of a car and a JC Whitney sticker on the front fender. I got this! So we do our burnouts, stage the cars, and I get a near perfect light. (.400 seconds in those days when it took forever for the old incandescent light to glow)
I go a grand total of 80 feet and the car noses over like I pulled the parachute. WTF?
Seems like I forgot to refuel the car in my excitement to win. Was I pissed? Hell Yes I was! Who's fault was it? Certainly not Chevrolet's.
I qualify with a spot on time!! One more run. The guy in the other lane is a total goober with a junk pile of a car and a JC Whitney sticker on the front fender. I got this! So we do our burnouts, stage the cars, and I get a near perfect light. (.400 seconds in those days when it took forever for the old incandescent light to glow)
I go a grand total of 80 feet and the car noses over like I pulled the parachute. WTF?
Seems like I forgot to refuel the car in my excitement to win. Was I pissed? Hell Yes I was! Who's fault was it? Certainly not Chevrolet's.
I don't understand how you could go on a couple rides and not have inspected the machine if it was pulling? Not to mention the thought of checking things out after you flew it off a cliff the last time.
Well, Polaris will be at Taylor Park. Why not take it and explain your issues with the factory reps themselves? They might have a fix for you and you only live two hours away. What do you have to lose?
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opcorn:
Two things to add:
I used to operate a shop for atv's mx's and sxs (sometime a crappy old lawnmower or generator too).
It blew my mind, what an insurance company would pay for. The first time a customer has me do a bid to repair basically everything on a rusted out poorly maintained pile of junk atv, and tells me his insurance is going to pay for it because he rolled it down a hill, I laughed at him. I said , sure Ill do the bid. I throw it together, he says, it probably ruined the engine too because it was running upside down and now it smokes. So bid me an engine rebuild too. So I did. The adjuster calls me and asks if the vehicle is in my possession. I say yes, he says is it a 2004, I say yes, He says is it so and so's. I say yes. He say ok, check coming short the deductible. I felt my insurance rate rise right then and there. I did have customers who wanted me to lie for them, I wouldn't do that, and lost some deals, but I had plenty of insurance claims where the customer got them to pay all kinds of stuff that they had no business paying and they insurance company knew it. Progressive was the worst (or best if your a candy ass who looks for everyone else to bail you out).
Second:
While we operated our shop, we genuinely hated Polaris. The worst machines to work on in the industry, BY FAR. Horrible fasteners (do you really need a 1/2" through bolted bolt to hold on a fender, let alone 25 of them and half night be metric). Go ahead and have fun removing the entire body (which took 3 times longer than anything else) to change the oil. Fit and finish..it was never finished and didn't fit. We used to charge $20 more an hour to work an any Polaris period and we were probably selling ourselves short.
Rhinos were the hot thing in these days. When the RZR came out I remember riding in the first one and thinking, wow...maybe I could deal with their faults, this things rides nice. We started working on them and found things to be better, but no where near the other manufacturers.
I ended up buying one reluctantly, in 2009 and was dreading the day it broke. I remember saying I can't believe I bought a Polaris. It never broke. Granted I found things I wish were done different and for the most part Polaris agreed because it was different next year. They have really turned things around in the last 5 years, DRAMATICALLY. A new 2015 rivals Honda in fit and finish, maintenance, and ability to work on. And its not even a contest in performance.
Moral of my story...Quit using insurance when its your won fault and Polaris is not junk anymore.
I used to operate a shop for atv's mx's and sxs (sometime a crappy old lawnmower or generator too).
It blew my mind, what an insurance company would pay for. The first time a customer has me do a bid to repair basically everything on a rusted out poorly maintained pile of junk atv, and tells me his insurance is going to pay for it because he rolled it down a hill, I laughed at him. I said , sure Ill do the bid. I throw it together, he says, it probably ruined the engine too because it was running upside down and now it smokes. So bid me an engine rebuild too. So I did. The adjuster calls me and asks if the vehicle is in my possession. I say yes, he says is it a 2004, I say yes, He says is it so and so's. I say yes. He say ok, check coming short the deductible. I felt my insurance rate rise right then and there. I did have customers who wanted me to lie for them, I wouldn't do that, and lost some deals, but I had plenty of insurance claims where the customer got them to pay all kinds of stuff that they had no business paying and they insurance company knew it. Progressive was the worst (or best if your a candy ass who looks for everyone else to bail you out).
Second:
While we operated our shop, we genuinely hated Polaris. The worst machines to work on in the industry, BY FAR. Horrible fasteners (do you really need a 1/2" through bolted bolt to hold on a fender, let alone 25 of them and half night be metric). Go ahead and have fun removing the entire body (which took 3 times longer than anything else) to change the oil. Fit and finish..it was never finished and didn't fit. We used to charge $20 more an hour to work an any Polaris period and we were probably selling ourselves short.
Rhinos were the hot thing in these days. When the RZR came out I remember riding in the first one and thinking, wow...maybe I could deal with their faults, this things rides nice. We started working on them and found things to be better, but no where near the other manufacturers.
I ended up buying one reluctantly, in 2009 and was dreading the day it broke. I remember saying I can't believe I bought a Polaris. It never broke. Granted I found things I wish were done different and for the most part Polaris agreed because it was different next year. They have really turned things around in the last 5 years, DRAMATICALLY. A new 2015 rivals Honda in fit and finish, maintenance, and ability to work on. And its not even a contest in performance.
Moral of my story...Quit using insurance when its your won fault and Polaris is not junk anymore.
Yes, at one time Polaris had some real dandy machines to work on. But the new 2015 is put together as good as, or better than any other machine on the market. I was a certified Honda mechanic for 11 years, and this rivals Honda fit and finish!
I insured my new 2015 900 S, valued at $17K. Policy is $466 a year, fully insured including medical. $1K deductible
My 09 800 is insured for $20K with mods (State Farm wanted to see my file full of receipts) Full coverage, medical and $500 ded. $278 a year.
Thank you to all you losers that run to the insurance company and lie about your stupidity so someone else has to cover your ass.
My 09 800 is insured for $20K with mods (State Farm wanted to see my file full of receipts) Full coverage, medical and $500 ded. $278 a year.
Thank you to all you losers that run to the insurance company and lie about your stupidity so someone else has to cover your ass.
I don't know why you are complaining so much. You don't have to have coverage at all. Don't finance it and the bank can't tell you that you must insure it. Sounds like your bitch is with your bank. So stop calling people you don't even know losers.
I agree with the full coverage issue, which I have. But when you cause $5000 in damages because you drive your machine like an idiot, and turn in a claim it eventually filters up to the front office that repairs on these things can get very expensive in a big hurry.
I guess I worded it wrong. Bottom line, rates have gone sky high for the SXS platforms.
I guess I worded it wrong. Bottom line, rates have gone sky high for the SXS platforms.
I understand how he feels... I'd say atleast Half the people I know with a sxs has had a insurance claim.. Some have had multible claims. Most of those claims were a total loss.. Most of them were also pure driver error. Not theift or fire's. I mean it is what it is. Nothing we can do about it. But I understand someone venting. Thats the way insurance works the good drivers pay for the bad.. Problem is with SxSs there seems to be so many bad drivers us good drivers are getting frustrated paying for stupid.... Doesn't help when lots of people almost brag about their claims...
I've had three RZRs the newest being a 2013 XP4 900.. Yes they all are cheaply made. Bushings, balljoints, bearings, ect all are kind of cheap. The frames are so so. Although they have gotten much better since the 08s.. Stock cage is a joke, Skids are a joke and in my case so were the low hanging stock trailing arms. I replaced my bushings with super daves with in the first couple hundred miles because of lessons learned with my previous two RZRs.. I had a water pump and a voltage regulator go out on mine with in the first 500 miles. I call mine a fun piece of crap all the time.
All that said Plenty of people beat the crap out of them. I've never bent or ripped out an a-arm.. I''ve also never bent a frame. I rock crawl and trail ride and although I don't abuse them I know i'm not easy on one. When your indent ball falls out of your shifter and you trash a 2500 dollar trans. Or your rear end locks up and blows a junk out of it because a nut backed off inside you can complain about them being junk.. If you take a hard landing or run into a tree and bust a frame or rip a mount off. Sorry you can't complain.. Not saying thats what the OP did.. Just saying most of the time bent metal is driver error.
All that said Plenty of people beat the crap out of them. I've never bent or ripped out an a-arm.. I''ve also never bent a frame. I rock crawl and trail ride and although I don't abuse them I know i'm not easy on one. When your indent ball falls out of your shifter and you trash a 2500 dollar trans. Or your rear end locks up and blows a junk out of it because a nut backed off inside you can complain about them being junk.. If you take a hard landing or run into a tree and bust a frame or rip a mount off. Sorry you can't complain.. Not saying thats what the OP did.. Just saying most of the time bent metal is driver error.
Here is the picture of my stock 09 after dropping the skid because a 2" stick hit my tank.. The factory thought it was a good idea to cut a 2"wide by about 8" long slot in the factory skids under the gas tank.. Not kidding go look. Was on a dirt road when it happend... Not even close to abuse. Just piss poor design.. scratch that the stock skid was still on you can see the slot where my thumb is.. I forgot the skids on the 800 also didnt' cover the gas tank......
Ride a motorcycle off-road for awhile and you will learn how to avoid sticks that can pop up. A few hits on the foot or leg teaches one real fast to read how they lay and how you can go over them. Having a stick pop up is not the sticks fault. There is a right way and wrong way to run over things in the trail.
To the OP, a bent frame is hardly a Polaris issue. Clearly you are riding beyond the capabilities of the vehicle. Frames just do not bend without significant impact/torsion.
To all you talking about insurance, the problem is not with the consumers, it's with the insurance companies.
These are off road specific machines, subject to significant stresses and conditions a normal road vehicle is not. I am pretty sure the insurance companies are aware of this.
So, if these companies are including comprehensive coverage that is not intending to cover driver abuse, they should include some exclusionary language to that effect. Their lawyers are very good at this sort of thing. If they provide this type of coverage and force us to include it in our full coverage, I will use it if I am in a position to.
If I am unfortunate enough to roll my 4x4 truck on its side, in the desert or not, you bet, I will submit a claim. Is that fraudulent, I don't think so.
To all you talking about insurance, the problem is not with the consumers, it's with the insurance companies.
These are off road specific machines, subject to significant stresses and conditions a normal road vehicle is not. I am pretty sure the insurance companies are aware of this.
So, if these companies are including comprehensive coverage that is not intending to cover driver abuse, they should include some exclusionary language to that effect. Their lawyers are very good at this sort of thing. If they provide this type of coverage and force us to include it in our full coverage, I will use it if I am in a position to.
If I am unfortunate enough to roll my 4x4 truck on its side, in the desert or not, you bet, I will submit a claim. Is that fraudulent, I don't think so.
State Farm for one will not insure a Jeep that is taking off road and damaged. Has a statement concerning that in one's policy. They have a way out if they choose to use it. Our community needs to wise up. Back in the day there was simple no way you could insure a powersport product. Keep going the way it is and we will get back to that. Start now owning your own stupid mistakes and the associated repair cost. Will wise up a idiot real fast.
I have had 2 speeding tickets in 42 years. Last one was 30 years ago. I have never had an accident that was my fault, and only one accident that was 28 years ago by someone who ran a stop sign. I turned in one claim 12 years ago for a broken windshield.
Yet my rates have skyrocketed over the years. My rates should be lower than ever at my age and with my driving record, but alas, they are vey high. This is due in part to the idiots that drive like idiots, and turn in every claim when they screw up.
Yet my rates have skyrocketed over the years. My rates should be lower than ever at my age and with my driving record, but alas, they are vey high. This is due in part to the idiots that drive like idiots, and turn in every claim when they screw up.
Comparing an on road vehicle to an off road .... can't be done. Take a car to a drag strip and totally it and see how far you get with the insurance. Take a 4wd Jeep and roll it off road and see how far you get. Rolling a RZR should be the same way. On road vs. off road - two different worlds. I can't even get my insurance to cover things on road if that I have ran over and caused damage. They say I should have avoided it. Unless I lie, I'm stuck with the repair. Why should not the same rules apply off road?
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