Agreed as well. I am from the High Desert area of CA, so Johnson Valley was a regular spot for me growing up, just not with RZR type toys. Being from Phoenix area, we just started going to Glamis last year and love it. Our 10-18 year old boys live it up on quads, dirt bikes, RZR's, etc. We also stay down at Gordon's because of proximity, it's fairly quite, and it makes for a nice trip up the the vendors, Gecko, and numerous spots in the dunes.