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Oil in starter motor - need help

7.1K views 6 replies 3 participants last post by  Redboots  
#1 ·
I bought a used 2015 900 XC in Arizona with around 2000 miles on it. Shortly after owning it, it would not start with symptoms of a dead or weak battery. When the key was turned, the starter would either turn slowly, rattle the solenoid, or just go 'click'. I charged the battery (good on voltage) and did load test on it. Checked out okay. I checked the ground, okay. I ran a jumper battery both to the existing battery, and then around the onboard battery. Same deal. I took a long 3/8" extension and tapped on both ends of the starter motor, and it started right up normally. After a couple starts, right back to no start again.

I pulled the starter motor off the machine, and when I started to loosen the 2 screws that hold the case together, oil started to seep out. Then a lot of oil !!
The starter was full of oil. Inside was a black sticky mess of carbon dust from the brushes mixed with oil. I cleaned both end caps and all insides with kerosene, and blew it out with air. Put it back together, bench tested it, installed it, and it works perfectly.

The starter is sealed and not vented. There is an oil seal behind the drive gear that works in the wet side cover with the flywheel. So how did the starter get full of oil?? I talked to 2 Polaris dealers, both never heard of this. I talked to a starter rebuilder near where I live, and he says this is the 3rd one he has seen soaked in oil. My only thoughts are either a bad seal on the starter shaft (but how did that much oil get in there?) or, the side case somehow got pressurized (bad vent) although I didn't find a problem.

Anybody seen this, or have any thoughts? I don't want it to happen again.
 
#2 ·
Unless there's an updated seal available for the starter shaft itself, you may keep running into this until the root cause is found. Be certain that your crankcase vent hose flows freely, isn't kinked and is still attached to the factory port. Also make certain that you don't have the crankcase overfilled.

If crankcase pressure gets too high, oil leaks are usually just one of the first symptoms. Sometimes seals pop out of their bores and absolutely dump oil.

Marcus
 
#3 ·
Thanks for your help. My thoughts exactly. Having purchased it used from a guy who was less than truthful with most everything, anything is possible. When I drained the oil I expected to see that it was overfull, but that was not the case. The rebuilder says there is a rebuild kit for the starter, but no change in the seals. I'll be reassembling it today and will carefully check the venting as it goes back together. I still don't understand how that much oil got in the starter even if it was pressurized. With a sealed unvented started case, wouldn't that be like blowing into a paper bag?
 
#4 ·
I had a similar problem on my 14 1K. Black streak on the engine case just below the starter. I am fastidious about keeping my RZR clean and maintained properly so I knew it wasn't overfilled with oil and the vent line was clear. Took it in for repairs at the dealer (extended warranty) and they had to replace the starter as the seal had gone bad. They said that the seal wasn't available as a separate item hence replacing the entire starter for just a bad seal.
 
#5 ·
That seal is actually available but not through Polaris as a service part. You get it as part of a complete rebuild kit including brushes, washers, shims, etc. Any rebuilder can get them. The starter price from Polaris is insane! Just out of curiosity, who was your extended warranty company?