New or old, they need updated. Too soft!

 

Hey Steve, I was on that ride with Mike, both his and mine are older 09-S's, I cant remember the other guys name but, both Mike's and mine had 10 coils and his had 6 I think, we didnt geta chance to test back to back, we were wondering if the damping and spring rates are different on the newer 09-s ?

 

What is the spring rate on the "S"? I know the standard RZR is 100lbs. front and 170lbs. rear. On the "S" I read somewhere where guys were using the rear springs on the front??

 

What is a good upgrade on the springs???
Mine are way to soft!!!!

 

Yeah, that was Gilbert's RZR... He just bought it, and it was different for sure. I wonder if anybody else has noticed this?

 

I went by my local dealer today, they have (2) RZR "S's". They both have 10 coils. They've only had these about a month.

 

I went to Bert's today, they have 5 rzr s. All of them have 6 coils.

 

Bert's stock has a VERY high turnover... so those are likely the newest models, like yours...

 

I think less coils results in a higher spring rate, atleast that's what i gather from this article.
Spring Rates Explained - Coil Spring Rate - Off-Road Magazine

 

I would like to know pricing for springs. Please PM me.

 

you should pm steve, he may not see this old thread..

Makin Trax Suspension UTV Shocks

 

I was at my dealer yesterday afternoon picking up a new RZR LE and the first 2010 S they sold came back in with 3 broken springs, and in looking at the new 2010 they had in stock, it had a driver rear spring that was broken on it. It appears that the spring producer may have used a run of bad steel in producing the springs for the late 09 and 2010 S models. Time will tell.

 

i was just at utv jam in utah over the weekend and was talking to the polaris dealer there that had a 4-seater rzr-s that had springs with fewer coils and i asked him if he changed the springs and he said no that they were stock.

 

Polaris changed some late 09S models and all 10S models to a fewer coil spring, mine has less than my buddies 09. Maybe they made them a higher rate, ive heard less coils = stronger springs.

 

One of my friends has a 09 with 8 coils and he HATES IT. He said it rides like shit and hurts his back. I know one of the best thing about my S is the ride. He's trying to get Polaris to do something about it or I guess it will be history.

 

That make's me think of a ride I did with Steve, up in Silverwood. There was a guy there with a brand new S and he hated it because it rode so hard and hurt his back, the funny thing was we weren't on anything very bumpy. Did not know about the different springs at the time, wonder if he had them?

 

Here is a picture of two springs. Both are 250 lb springs. Both are 12" long. Notice the yellow one has 11 coils and the orange has 9. Same rate, just made with different type of steel wire.
If Polaris may have made a rate change. If so, FINALLY, but I doubt it.

 

spring design should make no difference in ride quality if the rate is the same. I know the person who says the ride is bad and ive rode others that did not ride as good as others. Some come from the factory set up right and others need adjustment. So i doubt the springs make much difference.

 

Unless they are cheap ass chinese springs that are inconsistant in rate because of poor to no quality control. Polaris is not paying top dollar for those springs. IMHO

 

I like the sound of his springs and Id probably buy a set if they were red but i think he said yellow and silver only.

 

POWDER COAT!!!! the function of the springs far out weigh the color coordination, Steve has high qualtiy stuff, as soon as I save my money,im gonna get a set!!!!!

 

I called him and ordered mine today for the S. Man I have to learn to read better. I totally misread the information on the site. I was going to pay 400 for one set of springs. Site says "kit" meaning all four . I my defense though, I've been reading someone elses undocumented code, and trying to trouble shoot the program.

Jason

 

So I got my spring system for my S... and have some questions for those who have installed them, or Steve from MakinTrax.

Do I install the top coil on the front springs? I dont think I am supposed to.:question:

The long ones go in the back right?

Thanks for the help!

B

 

So I got my spring system for my S... and have some questions for those who have installed them, or Steve from MaxxTraxx.

Do I install the top coil on the front springs? I dont think I am supposed to.:question:

The long ones go in the back right?

Thanks for the help!

B

225 on the front and 250 on the rear. No tender (small spring) spring on the front Set at "0" preload plus 1 to 1-1/2 turns to hold the spring.

 

when installing these springs do they get put in at the stock settings on the s or do you need to mess with them. anybody have a picture of these on a s? anymore feedback on these? steve will you be at the sand sports super show?

 

pic Polaris RZR Forum - RZR Forums.net - Makin' Trax's Album: Progressive springs - Picture

 

so... different color springs make different sounds?

 

ya sure...lol

 

i dont know how to say it but the simple answer is no way just cranking the pre load is now way the same..

 

so what actuly does the PRELOAD ring ?

 

Dont even mess with the stock springs!!!! NOT WORTH IT! I never touched my preload but I can only imagine "THIS" would have happened sooner.
Trust Steve. Buy the upgrade!!!

 

i am 100% sure steve springs R very good
what i am not sure is how bad the OEM ones ?.
for zero $ & a bit of sweat i think it is worth of trying to stiffer the spring via preload.
i will do that on my S and will post my input.

 

Thats my quandray.....700 miles saging not broken do i need new springs,i only want whats best for her:rofl3:

 

If polaris would have wanted us to be adjusting these things, they would have given us a way to adjust them and a free wrench to do it with!! Oh wait.... never mind....



I've got stock 09 springs on the LE... YUP they SUCK

Got stock fox on the S --- they are 100 times better, dont know if they sagged, as they have adjustments to mess with.

Got a set of walkers on MY 09 LE - HUGE DIFFERENCE!

Waiting to get my afco's with springs back to try them. Steve, U get them going back to Moodys yet??

One thing is for sure, no matter what color they are, or what sound they make, Springs and Shocks should be the #1 performance upgrade is you plan on doing more than putting around the yard.

 

jeff we told steve to powdercoat your stuff floreseit pink just for you.....

 

Steve. Can you get your springs the same color red as the stock S shocks. I dont want silver like i saw on big mikes. I like the red. and how hard is it to take apart the shock and replace the spring myself? never messed with shocks before.

Also ive read about the difference between the springs but what will i actually notice when driving between the 2 springs, if that question makes sense?

 

No, the silver is the color they come in. Springs are easy to install on the "S". You can expect to really have to hit hard to bottom, front and rear. A smooth stable ride, an ability to aggresively attack rough terrain and whoops.

 

Maybe its like SUMMERS EVE (lady product) marketing,you say not feeling so fresh down there-and they run out and buy the prouduct when you put suggestion in thier head.So when you say is your rzr sagging down there we can help im ready to bust out the plastic.......so moral to the story is some need it some dont,it would be so much easyer if i could just sniff my springs too see if i need new ones or not :rofl3: