Check with Frank FJK on here I think their is a reflash for the computer. Your dealer may not know about . I may be all wet but check with Frank just to be sure.

 

Clayton, thanks but it's 170 i believe there's no computer on board.

This is a 170 right? If so there is no computer. Its sounds like it is running too lean. Change the pilot jet up to a 40 to start. I bet that will help with your cold starting.

Smartdave, yes it's 170 and i'm not understanding what do you mean by "running too lean"? i may suggest to the dealership to change the pilot jet to a 40. thanks a lot!

Guys, he's in the 170 forum talking about a 170.... Anyway, almost like maybe its too lean on the fuel mixture. Even more of an issue when its cold and its cold outside. Aren't the 170's still carburated? If so, is it jetted correctly? When you 1st try starting it and it won't start next time (assuming the dealer doesn't do anything), try squirting a little fuel down the carb and try starting it. If it starts up, then its probably too lean.

roguedriver, God knows i'm not technically inclined and God knows i'm not sure if it's jetted correctly. it's brand new. I will try doing that. Thanks a lot.

But once I changed my pilot jet to a 40 it made all the difference in cold starting. But now that I converted to EFI I don't care about jets

i'm guessing it's a must to change the pilot jet to 40?

appreciate you guys...

 

Sorry to hear about your experience with your RZR so far; the off-road gods are not smiling on you! If it were me, I'd be going non-linear!. While still at this early juncture, you might consider trading it in to the dealer for an 800 or an XP.................Just a suggestion.......

Cheers

 

Do a search on here their is a reflash for the back fire on the 570 just looked at your profile it says 170 not 570 my mistake not sure about the flash but have your dealer look at loose or cracked exhaust pipes.

 

This is a 170 right? If so there is no computer. Its sounds like it is running too lean. Change the pilot jet up to a 40 to start. I bet that will help with your cold starting.

 

Guys, he's in the 170 forum talking about a 170.... Anyway, almost like maybe its too lean on the fuel mixture. Even more of an issue when its cold and its cold outside. Aren't the 170's still carburated? If so, is it jetted correctly? When you 1st try starting it and it won't start next time (assuming the dealer doesn't do anything), try squirting a little fuel down the carb and try starting it. If it starts up, then its probably too lean.

 

HAHAHAHA Smartdave. Same post with the same response at the same time. Too funny!...

 

But once I changed my pilot jet to a 40 it made all the difference in cold starting. But now that I converted to EFI I don't care about jets

 

Caught it in post #4 the mind is the second thing that goes. Sounds like you are in good hands good luck and be sure to repost when you get it corrected

 

Spawn

It's really not hard to change the jets. Takes about 10 minutes and a Philips screwdriver. Look at the carb and on either side there is a clamp. Loosen both clamps. Once you do that you can rotate the top of the carb toward the front. Then remove the 3 Philips screws on the bottom of the carb. Then pull bottom of carb off (gas will spill unless you drained the carb) you will the see the pilot jet and the main jet. With a regular screw driver remove the pilot jet, then replace with the 40. You are screwing into aluminum don't use hulk hands.. Replace carb bottom then straighten carb then tighten clamps. Done and enjoy

 

Smartdave, while i'm ready your post sounds and looks very easy, God knows i'm not that good... i'll print this and i'll try to get a friends' help.

appreciate alot.

 

I will keep this thread posted...

Thanks

 

Jetsrus.com is a great place for jets if your dealer doesn't have them

 

Got it. thanks alot.

 

Hopefully this will help

Here is the bottom of the carb

Remove the bottom 3 screws and pull the bottom off. Make sure the gasket stays in the recess when you reinstall the bottom

After pulling off the float bowl (carb bottom) this is what you will see

Then pull off that white cover. Keep note of its orientation. Then you will see the pilot jet.

Unsrew it and screw in the 40

Then put the white cover back and screw the float bowl back on.

Hope the pics helped

 

Holy cow! this is indeed very helpful... makes me understand more clearer... Smartdave, appreciate alot. Thanks!

ps. by doing this, hope it will not void the warranty.

 

No it won't.

 

great! i'll go ahead and order this. Thanks!

 

Smartdave. Way to help a brother out! that was way above and beyond the call to post those incredible pics and instructions. We all learned something here!

I have seen several 170's sit on showroom floors for months. I wonder if his main jet is coated with green goo from stale gas? It may be repairable by just cleaning the existing jet until a 40 arrives.

 

RMR Man, yes it's above and beyond considering i'm very new to this forum. couldn't be more happy.

Just to update you guys, they picked up the vehicle around 6:30pm and i told them if they could check the carb and replace the pilot jet with 40, both guys were nodding not up & down but sideways, they have no clue.

Keep you guys posted.

 

I just bought a rzr170 about 1 1/2 months ago for
My daughter. The thing is extremely cold natured. I've kept it at my father in laws and have been playing with it ( it will be
Sitting outside Christmas morning). I changed the pilot to a 40 and the main to a 110, I also adjusted the throttle adjustment in the front end (its behind the Gas pedal) After that we were doing donuts and I don't even have to choke the thing to start it. It may be running a tad bit rich but, I don't mind since it's cold outside. Maybe this summer i'll change the main jet to a 102 or 104 if it seems to be running rich but, I like the way it starts and runs now. Remember it's carbureted and the jets that work for the guy in Florida will be different for the guy living in the mountains. If the 40 doesn't fix your problem, try changing your main jet too.

 

Kyatvrider, thanks for the input, but i now have second thought of getting the vehicle back. coz last night a service guy phoned me and informed me that they can't start the thing, they tried and tried (whole day saturday) but they just can't start it. i told the service guy, don't bother, i'm not taking it back home. I gave the guy a heads up that i'll be stopping by at their store on wednesday to formally return the vehicle.

Keep you guys posted.

 

as of Wednesday 26 Dec - they failed to start the vehicle.

give them until today, before i return the 170.

 

Wow. I would say this is not a common rzr issue

 

That should follow under the guidelines of a lemmon. Damn that sucks though

 

as of today... i have never heard from my dealer... well it's official... tomorrow i'm bringing the rest of the stuff back to the dealership... i guess the 170 is not for my son.

 

... well it's official... tomorrow i'm bringing the rest of the stuff back to the dealership... i guess the 170 is not for my son.

Too bad, but sometimes it's better to cut your losses early-on, and the omens were definitely not good in this case. Sorry............

Cheers

 

The mud Godz are telling you to buy a Pitster limited edition and mod the crap outta it so your son can embarrass anyone who even attempts to keep up.:ride:

 

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This 170 is brand new? If this dealer can't fix it, I would take it to a different dealer. What happened to service after the sale? Very sad.

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There was another thread on the forum about bad gasoline and the rzr backfiring and not starting in cold weather. Did anyone totally drain the tank and put fresh in. Carbureted machines are usually pretty easy to track the problem down. It's either Gas or Spark.....

 

Wow. Have they checked the obvious? Make sure fuel is in the carb and spark?

 

Well dave, you've been very helpful since i started this frustration, but my gut's telling me they didn't check the obvious. If they did, they didn't know how to fix the obvious. Thanks.

Almost sounds like the dealership didnt drain the shipping oil in the engine and refill with normal oil before they handed it over to you.
If thats the case......the rings are shot and the lil guy isnt getting any compression :sad:

I can't say they didn't or did... but i know they forgot to put fuel in the vehicle because it was in reserved and almost empty. I think this is one of dave's obvious things that the dealer should pay attention.

i wish my dealer have guys like you.

 

Almost sounds like the dealership didnt drain the shipping oil in the engine and refill with normal oil before they handed it over to you.
If thats the case......the rings are shot and the lil guy isnt getting any compression :sad: