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How to winch with help of another vehicle

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#1 ·
I have a 2019 Polaris XP 1000 4 with a 4500 lb winch. I just do riding in the Mojave desert with few trees to winch to. I am wondering if someone can help me with ideas of how to winch from a 2nd UTV. Should I winch to the 2nd UTV just like I would to a tree (use snatch block, etc) and use my UTV winch with 2nd UTV out-of-gear? Would it be better to have 2nd UTV pull directly with something like a kinetic rope (don't know much about these and haven't used)? What are your thoughts?
 
#2 ·
If there are two running machines there, I would use a tow strap first. Just for quickness.

Next would be using one rig for an anchor, put it in 2wd, dig the back tires in and hook onto something solid.

Its a big " depends on the situation" , getting stuck and then unsticking yourself a bunch helps.
 
#3 ·
I wouldn’t want to pull someone out when they’re stuck simply due to the extra stress it would put on the belt. I paid for the winch, might as well use it.

I’d probably have to consider the situation and person if they wanted to drag me out with a strap. Some people lack the ability to make good decisions and find great entertainment in destruction. You can do a lot of damage being stupid or trying to solve a problem with me speed/throttle.

I see the winch as the safest and typically most reliable method. And I’m never in the much of a hurry.
 
#4 ·
Recovery school was a looong time ago (army) but if memory serves you are pulling 3 times the weight to move a vehicle that’s fully buried to the axles. I don’t recall exactly when the weight is doubled, but it isn’t much. Long ago though, I might be corrected be someone.

Point being, that is a lot of extra stress to drag someone out. With a strap. Especially if it’s just a standard tow strap like many people carry.
 
#5 ·
Both post have valid concerns.

In a perfect world, would I let just anyone hook up to my rig when stuck, no. If you've been sitting for three hours and a guy shows up and offers to pull you with his snatch rope, are you going to say no.

Compared to a lot of people, I ride my rigs pretty easy. I wouldn't give the belt a second thought giving a rig a bump with a rope.

Standard tow strap 20k pound rating. Four seat RZR is 2k pounds x 3 stuck to the axles is 6k pounds, that's a big safety margin.. Most of my recovery stuff has been with full sized 3/4 tons and up. Freeing rigs that a hand full of people can roll over is nice.

Another tool I have used as much as a tow strap or a winch is a shovel. I've dug as many trucks out as I have pulled out. That and when your way out there, don't dig the rigs down to the axles.

The OP could spend a day going out and sticking his rig and then pulling it out and getting some experience. I would never say use a which 100% of the time or a rope 100% of the time. It just depends on how bad you're stuck.
 
#6 ·
I'll add to that, I've gone from plain 30K webbing straps to kinetic ropes.. I've seen a lot of recoveries using them, and done a few myself, on trucks, not RZR's, but same principle..

It's a LOT easier on the vehicle doing the towing, and a lot smoother on the person being snatched out.. The ones I have for the SxS's are

Not had to use one yet on a SXS, but I have used this one quite a bit on road vehicles
I really like the products this company comes out with, I've bought a bunch of their stuff, and it's right up there with the big boys..
 
#7 ·
I'll add to that, I've gone from plain 30K webbing straps to kinetic ropes.. I've seen a lot of recoveries using them, and done a few myself, on trucks, not RZR's, but same principle..

It's a LOT easier on the vehicle doing the towing, and a lot smoother on the person being snatched out.. The ones I have for the SxS's are

Not had to use one yet on a SXS, but I have used this one quite a bit on road vehicles
I really like the products this company comes out with, I've bought a bunch of their stuff, and it's right up there with the big boys..
I agree 100%. those kinetic ropes are more likely to get a rig unstuck on the first try, and are so much smoother on both the tow vehicle and the stuck vehicle. And safer for bystanders.
Add a soft shackle to your kit, too. Way safer than steel shackles.

We go out and do a lot of snow rides, lots of getting stuck in deep powder or loose stuff inside a drift. Way faster than winching, I can say with much practice.

If you're in deep sand or deep powder, I also highly recommend digging out behind the tires rather than trying to yank the tires out of their tight holes.

Buddy yanked a double cab diesel F350 that was buried in slush/snow up to the axles with his Turbo R.