[Jcard]

Im going to open a can of worms and say wth is with people wanting to rework there new 2016 shocks.. Here is a suggestion break them in... I think your all nuts.

I ran over 1000 miles stock before the ST work, plenty broke in.
Over 2000 miles on the car now.
My riding buddy has the same xpt4 with stock suspension, we trade off cars.
He cries a little when he gets back in his.
The stock suspension beats you up in the chop.
I pass him like he's standing still in the whoops at olds.
If you think the stock suspension is great that's fine, but it can be way better.

 

[jsandgren10]

Im going to open a can of worms and say wth is with people wanting to rework there new 2016 shocks.. Here is a suggestion break them in... I think your all nuts.

I think it's because once you've rode stock vs ST setup it's night and day better. On my 1000 I had 1000 miles before I did shock work and it was so much better I wished I did it sooner.

The problem with the stock shocks is they never work great in small chop. To me I rather spend $1500 to make a killer ride over $1500 in say stereos or engine performance.

 

[azxp4t]

Im going to open a can of worms and say wth is with people wanting to rework there new 2016 shocks.. Here is a suggestion break them in... I think your all nuts.

I ran over 1000 miles stock before the ST work, plenty broke in.
Over 2000 miles on the car now.
My riding buddy has the same xpt4 with stock suspension, we trade off cars.
He cries a little when he gets back in his.
The stock suspension beats you up in the chop.
I pass him like he's standing still in the whoops at olds.
If you think the stock suspension is great that's fine, but it can be way better.

I guess I shouldn't knock it until I try it. The stock shocks do kick ass. I'm just a little taken back by the following, everyone I have met that rides a sxs is advocating it even when they haven't done it, seems like a trendy thing to do. "oh dude you need shock therapy", "dude shock therapy".. I guess after I put 1k miles on mine I will be singing a different tune.

 

[theicon2u]

Im going to open a can of worms and say wth is with people wanting to rework there new 2016 shocks.. Here is a suggestion break them in... I think your all nuts.

I ran over 1000 miles stock before the ST work, plenty broke in.
Over 2000 miles on the car now.
My riding buddy has the same xpt4 with stock suspension, we trade off cars.
He cries a little when he gets back in his.
The stock suspension beats you up in the chop.
I pass him like he's standing still in the whoops at olds.
If you think the stock suspension is great that's fine, but it can be way better.

Calling to make my appointment Monday!! Hope the wait isnt to long.

 

[BeezRZR9]

I guess I shouldn't knock it until I try it. The stock shocks do kick ass. I'm just a little taken back by the following, everyone I have met that rides a sxs is advocating it even when they haven't done it, seems like a trendy thing to do. "oh dude you need shock therapy", "dude shock therapy".. I guess after I put 1k miles on mine I will be singing a different tune.

I agree with you. For the average rider the stock setup is fine. You have to remember the power of marketing and common enthusiasm on this site and others definitely have an impact on decision making, it's human nature. I'm not saying this is all bad just be aware. Being an active member on this site for years has cost me untold thousands $$$ :rofl3:! In all seriousness, there are many knowledgable, experienced, friendly people on this site that will genuinely offer their advice with best intentions and I believe ST is one of them! I will most likely consult Shock Therapy if and when I mod suspension.

I am curious and interested in this discussion but for me/for now the stock setup is awesome, especially with me coming from a 900XP. I only ride in WV so when you guys talk about "chop and whoops" you must be talking about sand and desert riding cause we don't have that kind of riding here LOL. If i'm lucky I ride my RZR 2-3 times a month and need to get to know my machine better before I do a shock upgrade (only 250 miles so far). One thing I have noticed is more body roll in my XPT vs my 900XP. I realize with the longer wheel base and more suspension travel body roll would be greater but I would like to address this issue eventually. Maybe sway bar upgrade will be all I need to improve?

 

[3TV]

You're right, it does depend on what machine you came from before owning the XPT. You came from a 900 XP, so the XPT suspension feels great. I came from a XP1K Fox Edition, which had better valving in the Fox internal bypass shocks than the XPT does. My first thought when driving the XPT was that the suspension wasn't so great.

And you're also right about it depending on what you're using the machine for. I started racing some local desert races in the XP1K Fox Edition, and finished third in my last race, even though I was the only stock machine in the race. Two areas where I was being beat was in power, because the turbo machines were running away from me on the straights, and in suspension, because the modified machines I was racing against were also beating me in the rough chop. I had such a fun time racing though, that I decided to start upgrading my machine instead of racing it stock. My first upgrade was a turbo (as in a new XPT). I now realize the XPT can use some help in the suspension department. There are too many other upgrades on the list first though, like skid plates, cage, seats, harnesses, tires, beadlocks, bumper, etc. I'll probably end up racing the first race or two with stock suspension, but a shock therapy upgrade is certainly on my list of wanted items.

 

[gtsum2]

The only suspension you know is the best suspension you know! From quads to sxs's, tires and suspension make the biggest difference imo. People generally don't know how much better things can be unless you try it or ride another vehicle with some work done. I remember when I out Elkas on a quad...wow...night and day different...I could carry a lot more speed through rough stuff...like 15mph more. Recently did shock work on my 1000s and it is night and day from stock as well...so much more plush over small chatter (rocks and roots) and handles high speed stuff better as well


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[Never happy]

Im going to open a can of worms and say wth is with people wanting to rework there new 2016 shocks.. Here is a suggestion break them in... I think your all nuts.

No offense but this comment would only come from somebody who has only driven them stock. There is no comparison from my fox edition shocks stock to after being done by ST... No exaggeration 10-15 mph faster through most anything I can put it through!


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[jsandgren10]

I guess I shouldn't knock it until I try it. The stock shocks do kick ass. I'm just a little taken back by the following, everyone I have met that rides a sxs is advocating it even when they haven't done it, seems like a trendy thing to do. "oh dude you need shock therapy", "dude shock therapy".. I guess after I put 1k miles on mine I will be singing a different tune.

I agree with you. For the average rider the stock setup is fine. You have to remember the power of marketing and common enthusiasm on this site and others definitely have an impact on decision making, it's human nature. I'm not saying this is all bad just be aware. Being an active member on this site for years has cost me untold thousands $$$ :rofl3:! In all seriousness, there are many knowledgable, experienced, friendly people on this site that will genuinely offer their advice with best intentions and I believe ST is one of them! I will most likely consult Shock Therapy if and when I mod suspension.

I am curious and interested in this discussion but for me/for now the stock setup is awesome, especially with me coming from a 900XP. I only ride in WV so when you guys talk about "chop and whoops" you must be talking about sand and desert riding cause we don't have that kind of riding here LOL. If i'm lucky I ride my RZR 2-3 times a month and need to get to know my machine better before I do a shock upgrade (only 250 miles so far). One thing I have noticed is more body roll in my XPT vs my 900XP. I realize with the longer wheel base and more suspension travel body roll would be greater but I would like to address this issue eventually. Maybe sway bar upgrade will be all I need to improve?

Yes I run 90 percent desert. If I just did trails and little lower speeds I probably wouldn't upgrade.

But for me I pack a spare, 100lbs in tools and box, fuel, and storage boxes where the rear seats go so my problem was if I tried to go real soft for the chop I would bottom out all day. So the valve rework and sway bar made a world of difference.

I came from a xp900 and the 4 seat 1000 had bad body roll so it cured it all. But thst is also why I haven't sent my turbo shocks down yet I like to put on some miles to see how they perform stock. And I know how good my 1000 rode after shock tuning for comparison.

To me if you race, run fast desert and dunes then shock work is usually needed. But for fun trail running it's not.

 

[AzDesertRacer]

Unless you have driven or at least rode in an off road vehicle with proper spring rates and real by pass shocks, you have no idea how horrific the stock XPT suspension is. I have a couple of larger desert cars, one with 3" fox bypasses and the other with King 4.0 bypasses. Both have just a little over 20" of travel and they ride like Cadillacs. Only Polaris could screw 18" of travel up this bad. I have the full shock package but with stock sway bars from Shock Therapy on my 2016 XPT. The comfort factor went from a 3 to a 10. Just the spring kit from fox will be huge. Best money you will ever spend on yourself.

SG

 

[FASTERTHANYOU]

For the guys that have sent their shocks into ST, when you got them back is it a bolt on and ride or did you have to adjust height and clickers,etc...

 

[O2M]

I'm racing short corse with the factory XPT fox shocks. They were way to soft to begin with. I replaced the springs with the fox upgraded springs and they were still to soft. I then changed the springs again for stiffer ones and had them revalved by shock therapy and they are 10 times better. By pass shocks aren't the best thing for short corse racing but at least I haven't had to go and buy new shocks.

 

[shaneheberlein]

unless you take the car to them, you will end up setting preload for sure. other fine tuning like crossover ring and compression dampening also depending on your driving style and terrain. They have great customer service, so if you have questions, call them.

 

[DB81]

OK so I finally got a tracking number on the box program at this point I've already been waiting two full weeks had my shocks off the whole time and it looks like they will not be here for another week that's a total of three weeks after I emailed and filled out the request form online I am not very happy and their customer relations seem like crap so far the first day I filled out their request form online they contacted me via email and told me they would call me within 24 hours while they did not every 24 hours therefore after they called me with a number and hung up I called that number back and the message said if you got a call from this number we will give you a call back in another 24 hours that happen for the first four days or so after I submitted my request this is seriously a joke I know Fox makes a good product but they really need to work on the other side of things not sure what I'm going to do

 

[inthe8s]

Anyone know what the time frame is on turnaround for Shock Therapy spring and re-valve is for a 16 RZR turbo ??

Looking and doing the kit, I'm not into big air but definitely needs help in the whoop sections......

 

[3TV]

Mine were same day turn around. You set up an appointment date to have the work done. They start on your shocks the day you are scheduled for, and ship them out the same evening.

 

[DB81]

As far as fox goes they make good shocks but have the shittiest customer service I have ever dealt with it was two weeks later after they said they've already shipped my boxes that I received a tracking number that told me it would be another week before I even got them not to mention no one there can actually tell me what part they needed to come with the shocks therefore they asked me to take off the springs seriously disappointing so I went with Shock Therapy I wanted to go with them at first anyway but it just cost the extra coin to go all the way Ernie got mine and got them rebuilt a day early and they are on their way back right now I will keep everyone posted on what the performance is like I got them New springs and Re-valved

 

[Lynkage]

It took Fox 6 months to build a shock for my truck that they said they had in stock.... Go figure.

 

[zzaaiinn]

lets hear some reviews.

 

[billallen250]

Hi guys.
There are quite a lot of differences between the kits actually, but there are really too many details to discuss here. As an overview their kit is a big improvement over stock for sure and worth every penny. It tends to be on the stiffer side in the chop and small whoops than our standard set up. The dual stage compression adjuster is nice but the addition of the low speed adjuster restricts some of the flow through the bridge and this is part of the reason for the stiffness in some areas. This is absolutely NOT a negative for some people and every one we installed gave us happy customers. Great upgrade to the factory set up.
Our kit has all of the same parts to speak of but we have a lot more machine work and internal tweaks to do compared to the Fox kit. Our standard kit will be more plush in the chop and whoops than the Fox but not sacrifice the bump stage resistance. Although we can install the adjuster if someone would like, we don't typically switch to the dual compression adjuster for two reasons. One, we want to keep the flow very high for maximum smooth/plush feeling in the small and medium hits. Two, because we don't see a big need for low speed adjustment in desert, dunes, trail set ups. Tightening the low speed adjuster will bring in the small chop and chatter right away and in most of these areas you just don't want to feel that stuff. Where it is a huge help is in short course racing where stiff is best and ride quality is not a concern. When it comes to springs, we have our own made. In a pinch we will use Eibach for a special rate or if we are out or stock for some reason, but they typically stock 100-300 of each spring in their U.S. warehouse and that isn't enough for us. I think that even though our kit is more money, we have more cost in our springs and more labor on the internals, the biggest difference between the kits is that ours isn't one set up specifically. We tailor our spring rates, valving, pistons, adjusters to fit what you want and need. Sure we have a baseline set up but it is pretty rare that we run that. It is always tweaked to fit your driving style and terrain.
Keep in mind that we work with Fox Racing division and Fox Powersports division on a daily basis and have an amazing relationship with them. We stock their upgrade kit and install it here as well. The pricing is the same so if you would like the Fox kit and their timing is a bit too far out for you we can install it for you too. No matter which one you choose you will be very happy. They both are not a small but a huge improvement to your car. I hope this helps a bit.

just wish you did the box service that fox offers