I remember being told they were 125 for the fronts and 175 in the rear on the Fox S. Whether thats correct or not I dont know. I called Polaris one time they couldnt tell me lol.

 

If you talking the S it is 150 and 200. We just did some dyno work to compare them for upgrading on some new proto types. Some of the other shock guys may say different but that's what they came out on the set of orange that we tested.

 

Maybe they bumped up the spring rates on the 2012?

 

If you were running a oem brush gaurd fog lights and a winch would you recommend upgrading front springs ? racer tech sells some for $150. Or a pair of fox 2.0 shocks?

 

Anyone know the rates on the small helper springs?

 

They are just there to keep the spring tight to the shock when you have no preload set. They arent considered part of the spring rate. Once you have preload, they are compressed completely.

 

Yes, they actually do have rates and are not just there for looks. If they were not needed then wouldn't Polaris/Fox take them out to cut costs??? Or if they are not needed just take them out and move the adjusters all of the way down to save weight, the entire body of the shock is threaded...

The helper springs have their own rates as that determines when the main spring is utilized. Look at the Wildcat vid of the rear suspension, it has 2 springs and they are different rates. You can tell this as one compresses more over the small little hits and the other does not move until the larger ones. One is a helper and the other is the main. AC is using a different approach but the same idea.

 

the small spring is not part of a dual rate set up, on the wildcat it is. the wildcat was originally going to be triple rate with rebound adj on shock but they went with dual and no rebound. however you could buy some short springs from king or other race spring manuf and play with your rates.

 

They are not there to act as a "low rate" suspension spring. A true dual rate spring is going to be much beefier that what the Fox "helper spring" has. Its there to keep the main spring tight in the shock when you have no preload. You might get the tiniest amount resistance but nothing significant. Again, when you set the shock with preload those helper springs get compressed completely. A true dual rate will be a much bigger section of the shock.

RZR S replacement springs for OEM shocks

 

Would replacing the factory springs on my razor s void the factory warranty

 

Nobody has reported that yet, but with Polaris, who knows? I upgraded my springs shortly after i purchased the RZR (stockers were sagging badly), but I've had no warranty issues, so I haven't had an opportunity to test the hypothesis.

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