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EBS or Clutch issues?

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#1 ·
Hi,

So I drive a 2017 RZR Trail (non eps) and I cant seem to find any specific information relating to this machine and whether or not it has EBS. My machine comes to a very harsh brake when I am moving slow with my foot off the gas and it is almost head jerking (and sounds like the engine brake on a diesel truck). I feel like this happened a couple years back right before my secondary clutch completely disintegrated, taking with it a brand new belt.

I am wondering if anyone can confirm or deny this information regarding the presence of EBS on my machine, and if not is this harsh braking that appeared due to a problem with my secondary clutch again. Also, I would be interested in any recommendations on a new clutch setup, if any, for my stock machine.

Thanks!
 
#2 ·
EBS is essentially a one way bearing in the drive clutch. You can remove the cover and reach between the sheaves and rotate the bearing with your fingers, if it rotates both directions it is not EBS. If it rotates one direction only it's EBS. That's the simplest way to find out without driving it.
 
#4 ·
The thing with ebs, is when things are failing, it gets MORE effective. If it engages with a bang when you hit a certain speed on deceleration, your secondary needs attention.

I realized mine had a problem when the ebs started to chirp the tires on pavement when it had decelerated to 20mph, and letting off the gas at anything under 20 was a head jerking and banging affair... Previous to that starting it was doing it at 10mph, but not as bad.
When I asked the dealership that sold me mine used why it jerked us forward with a bang when it hit 10mph on deceleration they lied to me and said "they all do that".
Turns out, there should be no jerking or banging on deceleration. With a new secondary clutch there is no jerking at all, just smooth deceleration from whatever speed to a stop on level ground or even slight downhill. If you aren't getting that, your secondary is messed up.
The one way bearing doesn't come into play all all till you have decelerated to 5mph or so.
 
#8 ·
this sounds like exactly whats happening. When my secondary exploded for the first time it started to hit the EBS way harder, like you said chirping tires or skidding on gravel. It usually doesnt act in a severe fashion until I am down to that 5 mph (my machine is in KPH ~10) but it is now very harsh. The one difference i notice this time is that I am not having any issues with shifting...well yet anyways. I will try and get the secondary looked at asap or do you think its best to just redo the clutches again?

Cheers,
 
#11 ·
Clutches were gone...soon learned these clutches self implode every 3500 miles no matter what I've done. High / low gear etc. I've got 14,000 miles on it now probably on clutch number 5 including testing a duraclutch. I now have 2014 rzr 900 xp clutches with Dalton clutch kits and hunterworks upgraded secondary in both of my rzr 900 trails. That being said I am about to swap a mother clutcher set onto my ranger as I can get the whole setup for like $700 for primary and secondary. Take a look at those