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That would alert me to oncoming traffic on narrow winding forst service roads with many blind curves? I almost took out an out of control motocycle rider yesterday and would like to be notified a few seconds sooner next time I meet with fast oncoming traffic going around the curvies.
I'd like to have a nice gps with Topo system that would show me oncoming traffic ahead of time. Kinda like a fishfinder for traffic that works around blind curves.
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There are collision avoidance systems already in production cars now but they are pretty much line of sight devices and I may be mistaken but I don't think they can see around blind corners. All of the systems I've read about will work for vehicles going slower than you are in front of you but Radar depends on line of sight receivers so I'm gonna say no on this one.
 

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That would alert me to oncoming traffic on narrow winding forst service roads with many blind curves? I almost took out an out of control motocycle rider yesterday and would like to be notified a few seconds sooner next time I meet with fast oncoming traffic going around the curvies.
I'd like to have a nice gps with Topo system that would show me oncoming traffic ahead of time. Kinda like a fishfinder for traffic that works around blind curves.
Anyone???
Doesn't exist. Likely never will. You'd have to have lightning fast input back to some database that then feeds the info back to you. Radar won't work through a bunch of tight, big trees looking for something fast oncoming that's 20' away. Just got to stay right, slow down and hope you don't get smashed into in the particular situation. Maybe you could convince somebody to put up some curved mirrors around the worst corners, but not likely something the Forest Service is going to do.

Edit: As Hoser states.....Lights are key. Sometimes people just forget or are a bit naive as to how effective they are.

Some older folks I used to drive with on winding dirt roads would always blow their horn as they come up on blink corner. Might be worth giving a quick toot before you enter the corner.
 

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Been their done that many times scary as hell, not sure how that type system would work or see through or around the trees.

You may have noticed but if everybody drives with their lights on you can catch a glimpse of them coming at you through the dense forest if your looking ahead that is, every once and a while one will surprise you but lights on helps a lot.

Sooner or later your going to hit someone head on get use to that idea, one will be running way to fast and will not see you, their is no test required to buy and drive a OHV, if they dont hit you head on they will from the back or side, I have had it happen to me many times over the years not once was it a "ACCIDENT" every time the rider admittedly had their head up their ass, going too fast, looking back, goggles covered with dust or mud could not see etc.

Sadly when asked WHY most morons wont run with their lights on because it takes too much HP :rofl3: it takes physiological HP that is, here is how dumb people are , 746 WATTS = 1HP so something with two 55 WATT headlights turned on has a HP loss most dynos cant detect but in there small undeveloped brains they are faster than their buddy with the lights off so risk their life and others for NOTHING but being 100% stupid!

I have seen a few people on the trail over the years with a strobe light on the top of their helmet when it flashed it gave a beam of light 360 degrees, it really made them visible not sure where you get them.

Maybe add a few extra lights to your machine to improve the chances of others seeing you?

Keep your lights on and be alert be safe and have fun!
 

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radar cant see around corners either, let alone the computing power you'd need to have it tell the differance between stationary objects and somthing moving, than determining direction of movement closer rates etc. Used to get to read after test results of when our milatary was first developing these types of systems, would tell you guys about them but then i'd have to kill youse (rated secret could be prosicuted for revealing what I read ) but its some funny stuff what the computers and radar first thought was the enemy. After the first couple live fire incidents!!!they realized in the early 80's how long and how much money would be involved (look up sgt.york) Dead untill reagen embraced it (star wars)
 

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"Doesn't exist. Likely never will. You'd have to have lightning fast input back to some database that then feeds the info back to you."

That kinda talk is exactly what people said to the Wright bros and Henry Ford!

What about 4g cell phone app that relays others riders cell phone signals to alert you of users on the trail ahead? In the trails that I ride cell reception is decent but there are some dead spots. Maybe an iphone or android app could be made to give users info about potential users ahead???

How many riders of SxSs, 4x4s, Atvs,Motorcycles, snowmobilers deaths could be prevented with such a system?
 
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The tech is out there...doesn't use radar...it uses IR...will pick up an engines heat signature through all but the thickest foliage...you can set it to give an alarm and or lock onto/track temps in excess of xyz degrees ect...
It would be cost prohibitave though...and the best systems aren't available to the general public
 

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sure new 2012 rzr with avoidence system 29,500.00 i.r. still wont see around corners or over hills . Sure anythings possible,only paid 500 extra for my 09 van because people are to stupid to check their tire pressure,let alone be a good enough driver to know not to slam on the brakes when you get a flat,we need to concentrate on resposibility which will never be replaced by technology at any cost
 
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sure new 2012 rzr with avoidence system 29,500.00 i.r. still wont see around corners or over hills . Sure anythings possible,only paid 500 extra for my 09 van because people are to stupid to check their tire pressure,let alone be a good enough driver to know not to slam on the brakes when you get a flat,we need to concentrate on resposibility which will never be replaced by technology at any cost
Around corners, no..through corners yes.... depends on what is between you and the heat signature,just because you can't see through it doesn't mean it can't be seen through..you might be suprised. Agree though that presently that tech is too expensive to consider for this application. I have ridden trails where I come up on curves and cringe waiting to see a 500 CC dirtbike coming at me and my kids full bore with no where for either of us to go.... My responsibility is to protect my family and myself and also not hurt anyone else while out riding...just because I follow the rules doesn't mean the other guy will. The OP asked a good question..if there was something reasonably priced that would alert me of oncoming traffic on the trail I would have it...that would be responsible IMO.
 

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There is a system that involves a 2 way radio and a helicopter but I am not sure of the cost.
 

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Good brakes and a big bumper for the dirt bikes.
 

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by the by , racertech front bumper,and two really loud horns on roof. Give a hoot don't pollute (i always honk going into or before cresting has prevented polluting great outdoors with many a dirt biker,also remember dont tear ass down a trail you havent prerode to get a feel for it ,them that day,thats saved me many an incedent. But I too would by anti-collision if avalible
 

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Radar wouldn't work but there are options for the future. GPS is available to the outdoors, vehicles just need to communicate with local and likewise GPS equipped and communicating vehicles ala aircraft traffic avoidance systems.
 

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"Doesn't exist. Likely never will. You'd have to have lightning fast input back to some database that then feeds the info back to you."

That kinda talk is exactly what people said to the Wright bros and Henry Ford!
Dad...Obviously with millions and millions of dollars somebody could eventually do something. Not likely. You'd need GPS with sub-meter accuracy to do what he's talking about. GPS does not work great in dense canopies of trees and you have to know who is out there to get on the same system. Triangulating your exact position with cell tower sites won't cut it to avoid a head-end within seconds or fractions of a second. Your "Droid app" will not do it. Never will.
 

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......I have ridden trails where I come up on curves and cringe waiting to see a 500 CC dirtbike coming at me and my kids full bore with no where for either of us to go.... My responsibility is to protect my family and myself and also not hurt anyone else while out riding...just because I follow the rules doesn't mean the other guy will.
Yep...It's my responsibility to make sure I come home alive when riding alone too. :) Wife would kill me, if I killed myself in a head-on with a dirt bike. I've found the dirt bikes ride on the ATV trails way too fast around blind corners. The riders are generally younger too. A system to see around corners would be nice for sure. As mentioned before, high-beams go a long way even during full daylight.
 

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i just had an idea...how about leaving the lights on and also have on top of the roll cage a 12 volt strobe light flashing twice a second like the ones on big trucks or towing that will sure be seen from far away even during the day and warn others that you're coming there way. i'm going to start looking for that flasher tommorow ;-)
 

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Other than all vehicles carrying a small transmitter/receiver set-up, the best I can suggest is intrusion prevention bars.

Hit a dirtbike head-on and part of it (or it's rider) is bound to land in your lap...or through it! :scared2:
 

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i just had an idea...how about leaving the lights on and also have on top of the roll cage a 12 volt strobe light flashing twice a second like the ones on big trucks or towing that will sure be seen from far away even during the day and warn others that you're coming there way. i'm going to start looking for that flasher tommorow ;-)
That's a good idea about the strobes. Won't help around blind corners, but would be helpful overall.
 

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i have had 2 head ons.... both the idiot going to fast i was lucky anothier i got hit from the side idiot going wrong way on a one way trail..we both went off a 20 ft drop off
 
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