Have you tried messing around with your compression settings? I was having the same trouble with bottoming out on the big g-outs at Glamis this weekend too. Adding a couple of clicks on the compression seemed to really help out. Then when you go back out to the desert turn it back down a couple of clicks and you are back in business.

 

Yep.....tried that.Lotsa razorbacks out in Glamis this past weekend with hard g-outs at the bottom.

 

Just change your spring setting in the rear for the dunes, ie--- take the weight off the rear wheels (floor jack) and use that spring adjustment tool you got in your tool kit from POPO and tighten about an inch or inch and half (depending on how much you and your passenger weigh)--- at least that's what I do when in the dunes......

 

Well, figured I would throw that out there. I know we are talking about two different machines, but I always try my best at the free fixes before throwing money at stuff. Hope you get some answers about springs because I have no clue about that one. The only thing I have read on here is about all of the S springs that fail or start to sag really bad. Good luck!

 

If you lift your foot going into the g-outs you can minimize how often you bottom out. It'll still do it, but not as often. Progressive springs seem to help the over all ride not just in the dunes.

 

One try of the progressives and you'll never look back.

 

X2. Go with the progressives. They are really sweet. Very nice ride on the trails... I don't know about "G-outs" though.

 

Ken1
I do not ride dunes but the Racer Tech dual rate springs made specifically for the Fox Podiums are very nice and Tony or Andy can help with getting the right weight. The dual rates are going to do more toward keeping that softer ride which I also do not want to give up. The short stiff spring will kick in on your jumps while leaving the main spring to maintain a better ride when not jumping. I have no regrets buying the springs and you can see them on my RZR S picture post. Just clickk on my avatar.

 

my progressive springs do great on the trails and in the sand!makin trax

 

I've been doing a lot of high speed desert riding and the RZR is bottoming out on 1-2 foot drops at 30-40 MPH. Nothing like what I see jumping at dunes... Will adjusting compression help my bottoming out? I weigh 190 and my kid is 150, so not much there.

 

Get hold of Steve at Makin' trax and he'll tell you exactly what to do, no BS. I had him revalve my rear shocks and put his progressives all the way around and I really have to G out to get it bottom the suspension. I mean seriously G out.

 

...I really have to G out to get it bottom the suspension. I mean seriously G out.

What is a "G out"? Hear it a lot on here..., obviously dune related but not sure where it occurs. Thanks.

 

Progressives from MT for sure will help. I switched to them and it helped huge. No regrets... 225 in front 250 in rear. If you have any later plans of doing the MT trailing arm kit, you will want to go with 225s in rear also.

 

Yummmmmmmmm did someone say MT trailing arm kit?

 

I just installed linear rate springs on my car and had the chance to do some testing yesterday. The 225's on the front and 250's in the rear worked great with my W/E's shocks. The bucking in the whoops was significatly reduced but there is still room for improvement. I need to put more preload in the rear which I hope will eliminate the bucking all together. The shock valving actually seems to be better suited to the stiffer springs. Ride on the small stuff is significantly more comfortable.

Tested out at El Mirage OHV. Was able to hit 50 mph on a trail with medium sized whoops. On previous trips, my top speed in the same area was about 40 mph with my fillings trying to rattle out of my mouth.

I would like to give a special thanks to Steve at Makin Trax!!! He helped me out with the rear springs for testing. You don't find too many people like him in this world.

Anyone interested in improving suspension performance should talk to Steve first!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I just G----d out

 

Steve all the way

 

Steve YES he is the bomb alright!
He helped Val out and Val not even running his shocks!
Like he has done for some many other members and without compensation, I for one was but not anymore!
Have progressives on order for 09S after sitting on the fence for ever and seeing what magic he can do with the stock shocks, springs with the proper preload, and adjustments on my 09S!

 

Other than being unconfortabe, is bottoming out bad for the machine?

 

Now that I know what a G-out is, yes they are bad. I will find the video I posted on here that shows from my helmet cam what a G-out looks like at speed and the particular one I did snapped the rear sway bar links when it hit.

http://www.rzrforums.net/rzr-utv-videos/47943-video-waynoka.html#post601508

At .28 you see a G-out on my first ever trip to the dunes at Waynoka. didn't know this had a name but it jarred me to my teeth.

 

IMO YES it puts and added stress on componets those hard sharp hits I would think would damage or break parts other than just the shock itself over time. I heard of people snaping the bolts were the shocks mount because of it, Bump stops start to break up and I can not beleive it be any good to have the shock constantly bottoming out, something going to give! Thats were valving and springs or the prober shock come into play.
Besides it cant be good on your back!
Sooner or later its going to catch up with you!