Cool! Glad I held off buying ECM. Rules dictate stock exhaust. You sell with dyno optimized stock tune? Do you have a dyno chart or numbers of stock 14 stock exhaust tuned? This gives access of all parameters of ecm for complete custom tune? Will I have ability to adjust all & reflash myself?

 

Our level 1 tune is an optimized stock tune. This tune is loaded into all of the Bully Dog GT units we sell for $699.95. This has all the throttle by wire locked, raised rev limit (9000), raised speed limit, and optimized timing/fuel curve. Stock timing really falls off at 7700-up. We straightened things out and make 3-4 more peak power that will rev out to 8500-8600rpm. Our dyno tech is on some projects now, but he's going to find the graph for that level 1 tune. He just has about 300 runs to go through.

Unfortunately, you do not have any ability to adjust this unit. Bully Dog does not release the software to make adjustments to the public. You should not need to make adjustments if you are running a stock machine, or have our modifications (or other mods very similar).

We can have you data log and send us the file, then help you create a custom tune if necessary. This will cost $100 per custom tune. If you have a power commander map, we can also translate that into a custom map, but again this is a $100 custom tune fee.

You can still add a power commander or other fuel controller to your unit and make fuel/timing changes that way. If you click the link below you can see all the tunes that we will have available. These should cover just about everyone.

Bully Dog Powersports GT Tuner for RZR 1000 - RZR 1000 - Polaris - UTV


Thank you,

 

Hi, Im from the Uk and have a 2015 XP 1000. I race short course in the British SXS Championships and im looking at gaining a little extra acceleration. What do you recommend??
Thanks

PS, We are not allowed any internal mods. Just exhaust, fuel controllers/ecu and air intake.

 

You would just want our Bully Dog tuner with the base level 1 (stock optimized) tune. This will lock the throttle by wire, give you more RPM, and 3-4hp peak. Acceleration is the biggest key because your machine will not close the throttle under wheel spin which always happens in the holeshot.

What's the cost of stage one.

$1995 for the stage 1 kit.

So $699 for the tuner + $50 for the tune from BMP. Looks like the tuner works on a few other vehicles and generally sells for $450 or so just doing a quick search. What's the difference in the cost for the BMP XP 1000 tuner? I might be missing something....

What your seeing is a base tuner that will do nothing but data log and check engine codes. No actual tune would be installed in that unit for $450. With us, your paying for the tuner, plus the tune and everything setup specifically for your RZR 1000. The companies who sell that for $450 is under retail also. What we are doing is highly technical and has taken many hours to develop. Many customers were buying ECU's outright from us with a program that was not even as good as this one (didn't have optimized fuel/timing) for $850 outright. We thought saving those people $150 while giving them data logging, a gauge, and on board diagnostics was a great deal!

It's amazing to me that less than two years ago (pretty much) everybody was saying that you couldn't simply 'bolt on' anything and expect much in terms of HP gains.

Today we're apparently at 21 HP with what looks to be an attractive/informative controller and a clutch kit included for 2K.

That's a big jump and change of somewhat 'consensus' opinion for a 107 HP (2014) machine that a lot of folks figured Polaris had designed pretty darn well before even the HO version arrived.

I've always understood Bikeman to have a great reputation and can remember them positively helping people out on various forums 'back in the day' on other machines as well.

Thanks for the kind words! We work hard to develop things that actually produce power. These new units are just harder than most. Just wait until you see what just out program does on a new 900 RZR!

 

What's the cost of stage one.

 

Nice, whats the DB on the Exhaust at WOT (loud, quite)

 

I'm very interested in this package but I have a couple questions. Do you have any pictures of your exhausts mounted, I see there are two options for coatings but I would like to know which would look better on the machine? Lastly, do you have any comparison dyno charts that show below 7000rpm, I do a lot of tight twisty trail riding and often times like to get up to speed from a much lower rpm, just curious?
Looks like a fantastic deal no matter what though!

 

See the video link below. This shows the exhaust mounted up. I actually have a note to get some images of it mounted... I just need to clean up our RZR here and get it done. Unfortunately, I don't have any images of ceramic chrome on the machine at this time. Both look great, just depends on your preference! Ceramic chrome does hold heat inside the exhaust better. The black is a very durable coating, but does allow more heat to pass through it. This is not a problem on the 1000, but more just FYI.

On this type of dyno(or just about any dyno), you can't display low end power very consistently. The dyno puts such a load on the motor it sort of struggles to pull through it. This makes the graph jump around and not display real gains. We can tell by ear, and what the dyno tells us how the tuning is, but to display the actual hp graph is almost useless at that RPM. I can assure you we gain big from down low to up high.

 

So $699 for the tuner + $50 for the tune from BMP. Looks like the tuner works on a few other vehicles and generally sells for $450 or so just doing a quick search. What's the difference in the cost for the BMP XP 1000 tuner? I might be missing something....

 

Stock exhaust numbers on a 2014 also what's gain to the tires with just your tune

 

It's amazing to me that less than two years ago (pretty much) everybody was saying that you couldn't simply 'bolt on' anything and expect much in terms of HP gains.

Today we're apparently at 21 HP with what looks to be an attractive/informative controller and a clutch kit included for 2K.

That's a big jump and change of somewhat 'consensus' opinion for a 107 HP (2014) machine that a lot of folks figured Polaris had designed pretty darn well before even the HO version arrived.

I've always understood Bikeman to have a great reputation and can remember them positively helping people out on various forums 'back in the day' on other machines as well.

 

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Will this void the warranty

 

I am going to say yes.....

 

Again what the DB coming in at, tons of powers nice, but if its to loud its a No Go for lots of us, Spark arrestor?

 

We do not have DB readings at this time. We are waiting until our quiet caps are finished before testing.

As you can see in any of the product pages, the exhaust can use 2 of the stock 1000 RZR spark arrestors. The optional quiet cap will cap off one of the two outlets quieting the exhaust even further than running 2 spark arrestors.

Sound options:

Wide open no caps or spark arrestors = Loud, but not horribly obnoxious
1 spark arrestor (not sure why you'd just run one... but it's an option)
2 spark arrestors = medium tone
1 spark arrestor, 1 quiet cap = quieter with db's just above stock

 

This looks like a great package! We are going racing this year, and will definitely be in touch. Adding the AirXtreme kit sure is tempting too.

It's reassuring to see that you do your engine development work on an engine dyno. I've never been comfortable with engine parts that were built using a chassis dyno. I've seen too many cases where a chassis dyno cannot properly load the engine to produce reliable results, especially when tuning EFI systems.

I also like that you are using the Bully Dog tuner. We were already looking at the Bully Dog tuner for all of it's extra capabilities that have not previously been available to the Powersports market. This is a really nice package.

 

Quote: Originally Posted by Sjenko View Post
Hi, Im from the Uk and have a 2015 XP 1000. I race short course in the British SXS Championships and im looking at gaining a little extra acceleration. What do you recommend??
Thanks

PS, We are not allowed any internal mods. Just exhaust, fuel controllers/ecu and air intake.

You would just want our Bully Dog tuner with the base level 1 (stock optimized) tune. This will lock the throttle by wire, give you more RPM, and 3-4hp peak. Acceleration is the biggest key because your machine will not close the throttle under wheel spin which always happens in the holeshot.

Im a bit confused? Would I not need the full stage one kit on my 2015 XP 1000 then?
Thanks

 

When I said we are not allowed internal mods, I meant inside the engine, like big bore, porting, cams etc. Anything that bolts on is allowed. like Exhausts, intakes,fuel controllers.
Im currently running stock clutch with a NON EBS Helix with 26/11/14(rear) SUNF Tyres(like maxxis Ceros)
thanks

 

On a stock bike with the bully dog programmer, are you saying you can get 3-4hp. And what about if you had a clutch kit also. Im not a fan of loud exhaust, I like to hear my radio to much.

 

nicce. I'd like to see whp gains. Waiting for 900s mods too!

 

How much power will be lost by keeping the stock paper filter or the Donaldson? Im not real big on sticking a K&N type filter on this thing.

 

About 1.5-2hp with the stock filter. Never tested with the donaldson.

 

So on a stock bike with just the bully dog what will the increase be at the tires ? I'm trying to decide between this or just your reflash .

 

Horsepower at the tires depends on clutching, tires... ect. It's so inconsistent on these models. We only do this the right way and dyno engine horsepower, then clutch for the target RPM.

Horsepower with this tune is increased, but the biggest increase is the locked TWB and no soft limiter up top. The machine is just so responsive and has a quicker feel. 100% go with the bully dog. The ECU tune was a great thing, but didn't have the modified timing and fuel curve. The factory timing curve is honestly a mess. Has drops and all sorts of strange things. We smooth things out for a much better running machine. Plus being able to data log and check any engine codes on the fly is huge. Also a full set of gauges. Its a no brainer.

 

Is the bully dog plug and play? You send it to me with the tune, I plug it in, flash the computer and it's a done deal? I just got my rzr and this sounds like something I'd like to do after I get some miles on it and make sure there are no mfg defects before I take a chance on voiding warranty. Also say I wanted to return it to stock, is it as simple as flashing the stock tune back in it and removing the clutch and exhaust?

 

Yes the unit is completely plug and play. We send it to you with the tune specific to your ECU serial #, then you plug it in, program and ride! Like we said before, it's a great tool to mount and view as a gauge with many capabilities. If your the person who doesn't want others knowing your tuned, you can remove the unit after programming.

Returning to stock is exactly as you described.

 

Is there horsepower loss with 1 cap and 1 spark arrestor? Great product!

 

We have not tested with the cap yet, but we have done testing in the past and just by knowing muffler flow characteristics on this motor it won't be much. You'll probably be down 1-2hp with the cap and spark arrestor. Basically, you'll be flowing the same amount of air as stock (which really isn't horrible to begin with). We have tested these setups with a stock muffler and we lost about 2-3hp. However, our internal muffler design is more free flowing to begin with so that will be slightly better than the stock muffler.

Sounds fantastic. Anyone running this that can provide some consumer feedback? Specifically on 2015 RZR.

Any dyno sheets for the 2015 yet?

I e-mailed a customer who has one race on this kit so far. He should reply soon. From what he's told me, its night and day difference!

Right now we are dyno'ing big bore/big valve setups. Once we are done we will return the motor to stock and install the 2015 cams to double check the program and see horsepower. We should have results by next week.

 

Sounds fantastic. Anyone running this that can provide some consumer feedback? Specifically on 2015 RZR.

Any dyno sheets for the 2015 yet?

 

I want to know as well.

 

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I have this set up on my 2015 RZR 1K 2 seater and holy crap!! It’s not too often you can feel a performance gain from just an exhaust and programmer but with this set up you can feel it. Plus the noise of the exhaust kicks ass. Gives you that throaty loape under idle and really lets the 1K sing at W.O.T. I mounted my Bully dog in the waterproof compartment under the dash because I didn’t want people to mess with it and change some setting because with this set up you can access a lot of the internals of the RZR. I just let Bikeman set mine up with a tune and plug in the SD Card and it is ready to rip. Feel free to ask me any questions about this set up and I am hoping to up load a sound clip soon.

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I have a 2015 1000 and we ride dunes at sea level and over 10k in the mountains. Would I need 2 tunes without the O2 hooked up? Also want would the price be without the clutch kit. I just purchased one a few months ago? Last question what are your thoughts on the air filter that comes with the kit. I here good and bad about an oiled filter?

 

The o2 system on the 2015's is only for idle and cruising speeds. This is how they get past emissions standards. When you get on the throttle your machine goes into open loop (not using the sensor at all).

That being said, your EFI system still knows how to compensate for altitude without the o2, just like the 2014's did.

Drew who posted above is a good example. He lives in Flagstaff AZ at 7000ft, and was racing in havasu a few weeks ago which is low alt. Program is working good at both ranges. Clutching should be all that needs to be changed when changing altitude.

We have always ran an oiled filter without any issues. The oil really helps to trap dust from entering the engine. However, I know some of the better paper filters trap quite a bit also. Certainly you can buy the kit and use any other filter you'd like, or buy the parts individually, not purchasing the filter.

 

Will this tuner work on a 14 with a full Muzzys exhaust? Mine seems to be running lean in the midrange.

 

I don't see it being a problem. You probably won't see the gains you will with our exhaust that has nearly 80 hours worth of dyno development, but it will work way better than the stock tune.