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#1 ·
I’m about ready to purchase some 35’s for my Pro R 2 seat . Please school me on why I need beadlock wheels or not . Mostly easy desert riding with some easy rock / dry stream bed crawling .
 
#2 ·
Well, for starters, having beadlock rims reduces the propensity of large tires to push the outer bead off, they allow you to run low tire pressures for sand or rock crawling, and as a bonus, should you get a flat on the trail, you can slowly ride it back to where you started without worrying about the tire coming off the rim.. The tire will likely be completely trashed, but at least you and your machine are safe..

All that being said, you can still push the inside bead off the rim, and yes, you could carry a 35 inch spare, but after mounting 4 of them last week, 35 inch tires are HEAVY and large, making a spare tedious to carry.. At least for me, a fat old guy..

I don't own any tires for my machines that aren't beadlock'd. The rims aren't that much more expensive, and the safety features, well, buy once, cry once..

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#3 ·
If you are taking it easy on the trails and keeping your tires pumped up around 12psi or better, you will probably never need a bead lock. If you want to air down and do serious rock crawling or want to blast through the trails like a Baja 1000 driver, get bead locks. One thing I've found about bead locks after owning many sets is that they are much more likely to leak down. It's much more imperative that you regularly check tire pressure on bead locks to avoid pinch flats.

Let me know if there are any particular tires I can quote you a set of! Happy to help!
 
#4 · (Edited)
I didn't want the pain of bead locks (potential sealing issues, DIY mounting and balancing), so I went to Method 414 Bead Grip. Punctures are a way more common problem than losing a bead, of course. Carry sidewall repair kit and a spare for maximum reliability.

JMHO but the Bead Lock is the way to go for running super low tire pressures with soft sidewall tires or Racing, but Bead Grip is the low maintenance and somewhat lighter option. I never really had trouble with the stock wheels with no locking, so Bead Grip is a step up for retaining the bead.

Bead Grip wheels have been tested in racing, but of course, if I were racing I'd go Bead Lock.

I think this is the right size 414 for the Pro R --size 5X7 bolt pattern 5X4.5 offset spacing 13/4+3
 
#24 ·
I didn't want the pain of bead locks (potential sealing issues, DIY mounting and balancing), so I went to Method 414 Bead Grip. Punctures are a way more common problem than losing a bead, of course. Carry sidewall repair kit and a spare for maximum reliability.

JMHO but the Bead Lock is the way to go for running super low tire pressures with soft sidewall tires or Racing, but Bead Grip is the low maintenance and somewhat lighter option. I never really had trouble with the stock wheels with no locking, so Bead Grip is a step up for retaining the bead.

Bead Grip wheels have been tested in racing, but of course, if I were racing I'd go Bead Lock.

I think this is the right size 414 for the Pro R --size 5X7 bolt pattern 5X4.5 offset spacing 13/4+3
I have owned the Method Bead Grip wheels and did not have a good experience when it comes to changing tires. It is a MFer to get a tire off those rims! I ruined a set of paddle tires trying to get them off those rims. Beware and good luck.
 
#5 ·
I run beadlocks on everything, all the time..

The only issue I've ever had with them was altitude related, I went from 8000 feet to 4000 ft and pressures went from 6PSI to 4PSI, but I ran them all week at 4PSI and never had an issue, despite riding pretty gnarly rock crawling trails, to me, being a rock crawling noob anyway.. Don't follow me, you won't make it LOL..

But then I likely run a lot different terrain in CO and UT than you see up in Idaho.. I have for a couple years wanted to explore the trails around Riggins..

Yes, they are a chore to mount and get mounted properly, but I'd rather take the time to do it right, 3 levels of torque increases and made damn sure everything was seating as it should..

Shout out to KMC wheels being the easiest to mount for me.. The tires practically fell on the rim vs other brands I've used..
 
#6 ·
I run beadlocks on everything, all the time..

The only issue I've ever had with them was altitude related, I went from 8000 feet to 4000 ft and pressures went from 6PSI to 4PSI, but I ran them all week at 4PSI and never had an issue, despite riding pretty gnarly rock crawling trails, to me, being a rock crawling noob anyway.. Don't follow me, you won't make it LOL..

But then I likely run a lot different terrain in CO and UT than you see up in Idaho.. I have for a couple years wanted to explore the trails around Riggins..

Yes, they are a chore to mount and get mounted properly, but I'd rather take the time to do it right, 3 levels of torque increases and made damn sure everything was seating as it should..

Shout out to KMC wheels being the easiest to mount for me.. The tires practically fell on the rim vs other brands I've used..
Makes total sense for what you do. I'm not big rock crawler. I only do rock crawling when I have to get where I want to go, LOL. I don't seek it out. Have fun!
 
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#11 ·
Check out these Assault Hllfire "INNERLOCK" wheels. These things are awesome, and not nearly as popular as they should be. This is not your average bead lock...

Waaaay easier to mount than a standard beadlock with a ring.
Link: https://www.superatv.com/assault-industries-hellfire-wheels-with-innerlock-technology

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I haven’t ever seen or heard of these. That is a cool concept and see no reason that these wouldn’t work great.
 
#13 ·
Beadlocks are great if you need them. Downside like mentioned more likely to leak down. Easier to change a tire at home.

downside on long multi state/town rides most tire shops won’t work on them, the method bead grip wheels are great and you can pull into a tire shop and get a new tire installed in needed vs having to do it yourself.
 
#18 ·
@SuperATV can probably clarify but my guess is they put enough clearance here (where I marked in blue) to accommodate the worst-case/thickest tire beads out there. The bead retention pins are not always or maybe not ever flush up against the bead when they are screwed in. The tire bead could push in a mm or two before contacting the bead retention pin but not allow enough movement to lose any air or pop off the bead. In other words, there could be a little white space between the bead and the pins as I've drawn in below in white.

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#22 ·
@FordTruckMan like @RockPeakUTV mentioned above, there should be plenty of clearance in there for most "offroad" tires. I've never seen an issue yet. You may run into an odd LT or Ag tire with a super fat bead that may prove a little more difficult to get seated or push up against the screw, but I haven't seen any issues of that happening yet. Those screws go in at an angle so they accomodate for just about any varying bead thickness you should run into.

And for spinning... My dude that does a lot of the testing was doing launches at 0psi and couldn't spin these, so that's pretty awesome. They were impressed.
 
#20 ·
I've been curious of the method bead grips. I run similar on my jeep and have never lost a bead at 4 psi. And it seems every time I go crawling with fullsize vehicles, people are losing inner beads. The inner bead on sxs beadlocks seems to usually be pretty big, this is why it takes so much pressure to seat them, and losing the inner bead is rare on a sxs. But then sxs people tend to run a lot of air even in beadlocks. We once ran the turbo r with 37s on 15" beadlocks for a few days at 3psi, before losing some air and putting them higher. Had come down a bit from altitude and didn't bother to check them. You lose approximately 1 psi per 2000' elevation. So when running 6 psi in Colorado and you go to Moab, now only got
3 psi.