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2011 XP900 after engine rebuild, Overheating FAST?! Help!

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#1 ·
Hey guys, have a 2011 XP that has the famous starter catastrophe... Anyways.

Customer said he was ridding and heard a loud POP then engine started smoking.. Sure enough , idler gear exploded.. Oh well. Engine rebuild time!!

He also stated it had ran a little hot on him from time to time over the months he owned it, not a lot, maybe once or twice a month.

ANYWAYS... Motor is rebuilt new everything :ride::ride::ride:

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Got it allllllll back together and doing the break in rides. First start up i let it idle in the garage for about 5 - 8 minutes like the good ole days, Heat, cool, heat, cool..etc...

Well i noticed it started getting about 200 degrees, so i thought " yea its just because no air is blowing and cooling".. Then the fan kicked on :clap::clap:... Then i noticed it got higher, and higher.

I finally killed the motor at 230 thinking oh dang !!

Well, let it cool down and the next day i took it for a short ride... SHORT?? YES! After about 2 miles of of no more than 1/4 ridding, the temps hit 210. I was a long way from home in the woods, so i sat there for 45 minutes.

Cranked it back up and got about 100 yards from home and went into limp mode (above 220 degrees) but i had to get home!

Im using EXCELLENT coolant (Engine Ice). I JUST got the bike together about 30 min ago from putting a new thermostat in! :eek:k::eek:k:

Well... Let it idle again for about 5-6 minutes.. Well here comes the temps again and the fan is just roaring like its supposed to !


Weird things i've noticed :

Reservoir tank fluid not really rising at all.

Remove cap and coolant comes running out (Cold coolant)?? After temp say 230 degrees????

Radiator is cool to touch.

When removing the cap, no bubbles come up while rising?

Cant do the "jack up front end" method, because i just said all my coolant wants to run out?

WHen i removed the thermostat cover, i expected to have a coolant bath, No coolant came out when i broke the seal??

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Any help here? Dont really know what to do? Everything was done right.. Headgasket is fine obviousy (no smoke, No bubbles as i said, etc)

Coolant systems are simple, but ... Yea..

I need REAL help please :)... I dont have time for " is the TV plugged in.. Thanks! :)
 
#4 ·
Do NOT do the heat up, cool off, heat up, cool off. All you're doing is glazing the rings and not seating squat. It's actually one of the worse things you can do to a new motor. You'll end up with low compression, higher oil usage, less hp, an unhappy powerplant.

You need to heat it up to operating temps and then FLOG THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF IT - after you get the air outta the system.

To properly seat the rings you need to get them to temp AND have higher pressures found with WFO running. The gasses actually travel over the top of the ring and into the recesses the rings sit in, forcing the rings out, thus helping seat the rings to the cylinder. Just letting it come up to temp and then letting it cool off doesn't do squat.

Time and time again, I've seen a huge difference between the heat cycle stuff and the heat and flog and the heat and flog ALWAYS produces a better engine.

When I was involved with racing Superbikes back in the 80's, we'd build our engines and then take them to the dyno. The very first time they were fired up, it was heat to temp and then do dyno pulls. The engines that we heat cycled first were always down on HP and always used more oil. It only took us four or five runs before we started verifying the heat and flog method was much better.

Here - this guy explains it very, very well: Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power
 
#5 ·
Kfab I have always done heat cycles on all of my engines, but I then drive it like I stole it afterward to get it to properly seat the rings. The guy who screwed me on my engine gave the recommendation of 3 heat cycles then go beat on it. After my disappointment from a known vendor on here, I took matters into my own hands, rebuilt the engine with a friend, and learned a lot about how these engines work and should be assembled, and got it correct. It amazes me the corners people cut for profit.

Moral of the story is do these things yourself because no one looks out for you better than you.