2019 Power Steering - Polaris RZR Forum - RZR Forums.net
RZR XP Turbo Discuss the Polaris RZR XP Turbo EPS here!

 4Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 37 Old August 12th, 2019, 10:24 AM Thread Starter
EE
 
FordTruckMan's Avatar
 
My RZR: 2019 XP Turbo
Member #201969
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Ohio
Posts: 139
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View FordTruckMan's Photo Gallery(0)
2019 Power Steering

Does anyone with a 2019 feel like the power steering requires more effort than previous model years? I unfortunately only have experience with my previous machine, a 2017 XP 1000. Compared to it, the 2019 requires significantly more effort to steer at lower speeds. My 17' allowed for one handed steering easily, whereas I need to use both hands to make quick maneuvers at low speed in the 19'. I am just curious if this is normal, or something I should address. The machine is completely stock with only a few hours on it and about 25 miles.
FordTruckMan is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 37 Old August 13th, 2019, 07:59 AM
 
Bullitt427's Avatar
 
Member #133409
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 689
Garage
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View Bullitt427's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 2019 Power Steering

Interesting, as my 2017 was a bear to steer, so much so I questioned at times if the power steering was even functioning. LOL

My 2018 is reasonable if steering effort. I feel like it could have more power during slow speed maneuvers or sitting still, but functions just fine at speed. Versus my 2013 800LE that had an extremely powerful steering unit and was super sensitive.

Not sure what you would check, besides tire pressure. Does the steering wheel self center after a turn?

2018 RZR XPT Walker Evans
2017 RZR S1K Black Stealth
2013 RZR 800 LE
Bullitt427 is offline  
post #3 of 37 Old August 13th, 2019, 08:07 AM
 
sandblster's Avatar
 
My RZR: 2018 Dynamix
Member #46247
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Eugene Oregon
Posts: 3,937
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View sandblster's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 2019 Power Steering

Seems something changed in 2018. Our 2107 has great steering. While the 2018 Dynamix is harder to steer. Complained to dealer, they checked it out and said if was normal. Notice in the 2020 information they are saying something about increasing the power of the power steering.

I'm an Outdoor adventurer and I Vote and pay taxes.
sandblster is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 37 Old August 13th, 2019, 08:08 AM
 
jeepkevin's Avatar
 
First Name: Kevin
My RZR: 19' TRE
Member #62493
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Allen, Texas
Posts: 68
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View jeepkevin's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 2019 Power Steering

I had a 14' XPK and the steering was great. Just upgraded to a 19' TRE and totally agree that the steering is much heavier.

The parking brake i had on 14' wont fit the 19' because the power steering unit is bigger. There is some kind of change but unsure exactly as of yet.

My friend just got a 19' Velocity S and steering is super easy and super quick like some kind of ratio change.

13' 570, SATV 5" long travel, 29" XP1K Tires and Wheels, 3K winch, S flares, Polaris rear cage and spare tire, stereo, and a fancy red shift knob!!

14' XP1K, 3.5k winch, forward arms, roof, windshield, 26% gear reduction, Racelines and 32 Roctanes

2019 TRE, SATV forward arms, 32" Roxxzilla, custom cage, stereo, RZR Works parking brake and shifter spring, WOD rear arm brace
jeepkevin is offline  
post #5 of 37 Old August 13th, 2019, 08:13 AM Thread Starter
EE
 
FordTruckMan's Avatar
 
My RZR: 2019 XP Turbo
Member #201969
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Ohio
Posts: 139
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View FordTruckMan's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 2019 Power Steering

Very interesting. I wonder how much variation exists from unit to unit in the exact same model year and configuration. The tires are still at the 16psi from the dealer, and this increased effort is experienced on hard pack, softer dirt, gravel, my back yard, etc. Mud is the only thing it hasn't been in yet. The wheel returns to center at high speeds, but definitely not lower speeds. But then, I wouldn't really expect it to at lower speeds. That is just a function of the caster of the front tires isn't it?


My brother in law bought a 19 XPT last month, I'll have to see if I can test drive his and see if it's any different.
FordTruckMan is offline  
post #6 of 37 Old August 13th, 2019, 08:16 AM
 
Max H's Avatar
 
First Name: Max
My RZR: 2018 XPT 2 seat
Member #16311
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Idaho
Posts: 889
Garage
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View Max H's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 2019 Power Steering

I think a lot of this is related to tire style / width . I noticed when I changed from wider tires with a larger contact patch to the more narrow BFG KM3 32 inch my steering was much easier to turn. The KM3 tires have a much smaller contact patch and rolling resistance is also less It was a very noticeable change it took some getting use to ...much lighter feel
Max H is offline  
post #7 of 37 Old August 13th, 2019, 08:23 AM
 
Bullitt427's Avatar
 
Member #133409
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 689
Garage
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View Bullitt427's Photo Gallery(0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by FordTruckMan View Post
Very interesting. I wonder how much variation exists from unit to unit in the exact same model year and configuration. The tires are still at the 16psi from the dealer, and this increased effort is experienced on hard pack, softer dirt, gravel, my back yard, etc. Mud is the only thing it hasn't been in yet. The wheel returns to center at high speeds, but definitely not lower speeds. But then, I wouldn't really expect it to at lower speeds. That is just a function of the caster of the front tires isn't it?


My brother in law bought a 19 XPT last month, I'll have to see if I can test drive his and see if it's any different.
My steering self centers

Even though it’s a new machine I wonder if something (ballpoint, Tre etc) is binding

2018 RZR XPT Walker Evans
2017 RZR S1K Black Stealth
2013 RZR 800 LE
Bullitt427 is offline  
post #8 of 37 Old August 13th, 2019, 08:27 PM
 
Toddg1's Avatar
 
My RZR: 2015 XP 1000
Member #225138
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Magna Utah
Posts: 171
Garage
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View Toddg1's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 2019 Power Steering

My '19 Turbo S Velocity is a lot harder to steer than my '15 XP1K was. I complained to the dealer as well , they drove it and I drove a brand new one and there were the same on both machines.


2019 Turbo S Velocity
Street Legal
Toddg1 is online now  
post #9 of 37 Old August 14th, 2019, 04:26 AM
Jay
 
Jay F's Avatar
 
First Name: Jay
My RZR: Turbo XP
Member #260192
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 50
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View Jay F's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 2019 Power Steering

Really odd stuff. My '18 Turbo XP steering is so effortless I didn't like it the first few times I drove it. Almost feels like the wheels aren't touching the ground it turns so easy. I'm used to it now and actually appreciate the lack of effort after 7 or 8 hours of driving.
Jay F is offline  
post #10 of 37 Old August 14th, 2019, 05:57 AM
 
RZR_Joe's Avatar
 
Member #23438
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 2,447
Garage
Feedback Score: 6 reviews
View RZR_Joe's Photo Gallery(9)
Re: 2019 Power Steering

The XPT has an upgraded EPS motor over the older 1ks as well as a larger rack. Steering on a new stock machine should be almost effortless. Once you start changing tires / wheels, a-arms, etc... there is a lot that can affect the steering effort.
RZR_Joe is offline  
post #11 of 37 Old August 14th, 2019, 06:02 AM Thread Starter
EE
 
FordTruckMan's Avatar
 
My RZR: 2019 XP Turbo
Member #201969
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Ohio
Posts: 139
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View FordTruckMan's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 2019 Power Steering

Quote:
Originally Posted by RZR_Joe View Post
The XPT has an upgraded EPS motor over the older 1ks as well as a larger rack. Steering on a new stock machine should be almost effortless. Once you start changing tires / wheels, a-arms, etc... there is a lot that can affect the steering effort.

This is what I thought, which is why I am wondering if I have an issue. Everything is stock still. I will put it up in the air tonight and see what I can find. Maybe I just need to do some pushups...lol
load97 likes this.
FordTruckMan is offline  
post #12 of 37 Old August 16th, 2019, 09:20 AM Thread Starter
EE
 
FordTruckMan's Avatar
 
My RZR: 2019 XP Turbo
Member #201969
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Ohio
Posts: 139
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View FordTruckMan's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 2019 Power Steering

Well I went over everything and nothing is binding or hanging up, and doesn't feel stiff or anything. Feels exactly the same as my 1k felt. I did notice my passenger side brake was dragging a bit though...no apparent reason why either. The set screw was adjusted properly. I fiddled with it a while and it opened up some, but then the pads aren't even bedded in yet so it's whatever. Looks like I need to get a grippy steering wheel or steering wheel cover. That should at least make it easier to hold with one hand.
FordTruckMan is offline  
post #13 of 37 Old August 16th, 2019, 12:40 PM
 
Michigan man's Avatar
 
First Name: Dan
My RZR: 2019 xpt titanium
Member #130625
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Northern mich
Posts: 1,128
Garage
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View Michigan man's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 2019 Power Steering

Same here. My 16 xpt was super easy. The 19 is stiff. I just figured they changed something

AA level 2 tune, S2 clutch kit, half tinted windshield, polaris roof. Polaris lower doors, fang light kit, with more to come
Michigan man is offline  
post #14 of 37 Old August 18th, 2019, 08:01 PM
 
Toddg1's Avatar
 
My RZR: 2015 XP 1000
Member #225138
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Magna Utah
Posts: 171
Garage
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View Toddg1's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 2019 Power Steering

I put my Turbo S in the air today and checked the steering system completely. Found all looked good. I pulled to plastic cover off of the power steering unit and inspected all the connectors and steering u-joints. Then out of curiosity I loosened all the pinch bolts and just kind of wiggled everything around a little bit ( power steering unit, steering shafts, even pulled up on the steering wheel). Then I retightened all the pinch bolts. I then drove it around the neighborhood and out on the street up to about 50 mph. Then steering is easier to turn now and seems a lot more in line of what it should be. Still not as easy as my '15 XP1K was but this machine has 32" tires and a winch mounted out front.

Just something that I tried and seemed to help.


2019 Turbo S Velocity
Street Legal
Toddg1 is online now  
post #15 of 37 Old August 20th, 2019, 07:07 PM
 
pfred8's Avatar
 
My RZR: 2019 RZR XP Turbo
Member #142905
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 63
Garage
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View pfred8's Photo Gallery(0)
I just bought a 2019 XPT and asked about that. The dealer said Polaris did change this because in previous years the steering was so light that there wasn’t much feedback and at high speeds it was squirrelly. So it feels like instead of modifying the speed assist curve they just offset it to have more effort.
pfred8 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Polaris RZR Forum - RZR Forums.net forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome