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Front Wheel Hub Fix - Replacement HOW TO

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#1 ·
Well, I had my 08 800 out for the first time (for me) last weekend and apparently I was extremely hard on it. I broke the front wheel hub in about 45 minutes of riding. Now, Im not sure if it was broke when I got it or not but, it still broke. So, I fixed it! I was going to get a set of billet hubs, but I like to use factory parts whenever possible. I did get an updated hub to use, but I still didn't like the cast aluminum. After a little digging I found that some guys use the steel hubs from an XP. So that's the direction I went. I am not the first to do this, but I wasn't able to find a thread on how it was done. Before we start, I will tell you a bit about myself. I am a machinist by trade. I am also a certified auto tech. Anything I say in this thread is my own opinion, follow my instructions at your own will. Anyways on to the fun!!

The parts that you will need: All Polaris OEM stuff

5137659-067 - Front wheel hub/mach - $49 - $69 - 2pcs
5254999 - Disc Brake Front - $36 - $50 - 2pcs
3514699 - Front Wheel Bearing - $26 - $40 - 2pcs
7517871 - Stud 3/8-24 x 1.73 - $1.00 - 8pcs
7518978 - SCR M10x1.5x20 - $1.00 - 8pcs
The last number is just a m10x1.5x20 Flat Head Allen Screw Grade 8.8

Tools:
SAFETY GLASSES - Snap rings can be nasty!!!
Metric sockets and Wrenches - You will need a 26mm for the hub nut or
1-1/16th(what I used)
T40 torx SOCKET - I would recommend a socket style over a wrench
since you have to tighten the Brake Rotor Bolts
Snap Ring Pliers
Pry Bar
Soft Face Dead Blow Hammer - I had to knock the ball joints out of the Hubs
Press


Lets get Started - Jack up the RZR and put it on jack stands - I had mine on
four just to keep it steady, two will work fine. Take off the front wheels.

Heres what youll see, doesn't look too bad does it?



Remove the Bolts that secure the caliper to the Spindle - 15mm wrench
These can be kinda tricky depending on the tie rod ends. I would go ahead
and take the tie rods off as well.
Remove the caliper from the spindle/rotor
Didn't figure you would really need a picture of this, but if you do I can get
one

There SHOULD be a cotter pin securing the nut to the axle, but if the hub is
broken, it is probably gone. If its still there take it out.
Remove the nut securing the hub to the axle. 26mm or 1-1/16th socket

The hub should now come off of the spindle/axle. Hopefully not in two
pieces like this:



You can see the piece of the hub that is broken off still inside the bearing and
on the axle.

Remove the bolts that hold the ball joints in the spindle, one top, one bottom.
You have to take the bolts all the way out since they key into the ball joint
pin.

You may have to use a pry bar or soft face hammer to remove the ball joint
pins from the spindle.



There is a snap ring that holds the bearing in the spindle. Using a good pair of
snap ring pliers and SAFETY GLASSES remove this snap ring.



Then remove the bearing from the spindle. It is best to use a press, but I
bet you can do it without one.



The bearing area inside my spindles were pretty rusty, I used a flap wheel
to clean it up so the new bearings would go in.




Now we're ready for NEW parts!!!



Heres the XP steel hub next to the updated aluminum hub:



New XP rotor vs. stock 800 rotor - Note that the XP rotor is a little smaller
on the outside diameter. This is not an issue as the rotor will still engage the
pads fully when everything is assembled.




Gonna continue in a new post so I don't lose all of this!
 
#2 · (Edited)
And we're back...

First step of reassembly: Press in the new wheel studs.




Bolt up the new rotor. When you a e putting these bolts in, barely snug them
in an X pattern to let the bolts align the rotor to the hub. Once they are all
snug, tighten them in the same X pattern evenly but TIGHT, The Polaris
Service Manual says 30 ft/lbs.




Press the new bearing into the spindle. Some guys put the bearing in the
freezer for about an hour to shrink it down, but it will go in with a press.



Make sure it seats all the way against the shoulder in the bottom. If it doesn't,
you will not be able to get the snap ring in.



I cannot express how important safety glasses are when using snap ring plier
and snap rings. Just use em, PLEASE. Carefully put the snap ring back on
top of the bearing.




Heres what you should have now, all shiny and new!!



Reinstall the spindle onto the ball joints - Put the axle in the bearing BEFORE
you put the ball joints into the spindle. Tighten the bolts to secure the ball
joints.



Slide the new hub/rotor assembly onto the axle and into the bearing. It
should kinda align itself and slide together easily. I sprayed a little
WD40 on everything first just to help with rust later on and to keep
things from seizing up.

There are two washers the go on the axle before the nut. These washers
are beveled one direction. They are thrust washers to help keep the
nut tight.



The bottom of the beveled washer (left in photo) goes against the hub. Both
washers go the same direction. Just be sure to install these correctly!



Install the axle nut and tighten to 80 ft/lbs. It is best to use a torque wrench,
but just make sure this nut is TIGHT. Secure nut with a cotter pin or safety
wire, like I did.



Now, reinstall the calipers and tie rods. You may notice the brake caliper binding a bit. There is an allen head set screw on the back side of the caliper in one of the caliper pins. This screw adjust how far the caliper is allowed to slide out on the pins. Use this screw to adjust the caliper to make sure it doesn't bind. One side of mine was okay, but the driver's side needed to be adjusted out about an eighth of a turn.

Put the wheels back on, take it off the jack stands. and go have fun. Mine turned out awesome and I don't expect any problems now. I know I left out some pictures, so if there is any that you need just let me know. Let me know if you have any questions!!

Travis
 
#4 ·
Thanks man! Just tryin to pay it forward a bit, I'm sure I will need something in the future and hopefully guys will start to post things like this again. I enjoy reading what people do and helping people by showing what I do. Everyone has something to share I'm sure. Lets keep the tech comin!

Travis
 
#6 ·
Love the pics! Just looking to put mine back together after the OEM hub up date. Your tie rod attachment bolt look completely diff. than my orgs? Just wandering now? Bolt head at top through carrier, tie rod underneath, then washer? and nut ? then cotter pin? Looking for pic of stoch set up? Thanks Bri
 
#8 ·
tc1,

Got a question...got to thinking about this project...and the problem with my 2009 front end is the bearing carriers.

I had a bearing go, and was very fortunate to find one in stock. Turns out the fit up of the axle, carrier and hub is too loose and with the axle nut bottomed out of the two belleview (domed) washers and torqued the assembly is not pulled together tightly.

If, when, my next bearing problems arises, I will have to go to the updated RZR 800 bearing carrier.

I seem to recall a post on replacing the bearing carriers with an XP900 steel bearing carriers.

Thoughts?

Thanks,

Pirate
 
#9 ·
I thought I read somewhere that there was a batch of axles that weren't machined to the correct length. Its like the splines are too long or something. I haven't been able to find it again though. I think that would be the only issue you could have as I don't think the steel XP hubs are any different in width than the aluminum ones. You should be able to tell if the splines come through the hub a bit and the nut will actually tighten the washers onto the splines and not the hub. The nut should pull the axle tight into the hub locking everything together. Let me know if you have any questions.

travis
 
#10 ·
Travis,

I've not seen that post. I found that both my front hubs have a flat metal spacers about .070" thick. My dealer's service manager...4 years ago...told me about an "assembly line note" to add the flat spacer if the assembly did not pull together tight. This Summer I installed a full set of SuperATV Rhino axles.

Guess what. I had to put the flat spacers in to get things to pull together tight.

That's what has me thinking about XP900 steel bearing carriers.

Thoughts?

Pirate
 
#12 ·
Travis,

I sure hope not! I replaced one front wheel bearing, because I had the PN and my dealer was able to get one.

When I have to replace another, I will have to go to the "replacement part" bearing carrier and the new bearing. I'm thinking that will solve the problem.

That's why I'm thinking...if I'm going to have to "upgrade" why not go with the steel parts that are a lot stronger and tougher?

Fortunately I now have my machine shop set up, so if I need spacers, I can make my own!!

Pirate
 
#13 ·
Stuart I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure its a replacement hub and bearing upgrade. I was under the impression the bearing carrier( steering knuckle) was not changed. I maybe misunderstanding you, if so disregard my post.
 
#14 ·
Brian,

I'll check the part nos.

Well, I went to polarispartsdealer.com and looked things up.

Here's what I found:

3514699 Bearing, Ball, Sealed | [Only for use with Updated Hub Kit 2204717]

So it would seem you are correct, the hub has been updated, and the new bearing is for use with the updated hub.

I'm still interested in possibly adding XP900 steel bearing carriers.

I've spent the last six years making my 800 about as bulletproof as possible, have the passenger compartment the way I like it, making nearly what the 2015 900 motors make for power.

So I think I'll stay with my 800 for a while....

Thanks for the help and the nudge in the right direction!!

Pirate
 
#16 ·
Pirate, that is why you need to buy a new 900. With your 800 near perfect.. What are you going to do with all that spare time??????? lol


Sonny
 
#20 ·
Good stuff, going to order the parts today to do this to my 2010, manufactured in '09.
 
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#23 ·
We upgraded all 4 on a friends 08, he kept snapping wheel studs out on the trails. I believe it was because he was not running hub centric wheels, but we just deducted this months after doing the upgrade. I know he bought the hubs used and they are identical to the ones in the pic above. They are a direct replacement, but there was some debate on what they came off of. The shop owner where he bought them said he thought they were off a Ranger, but couldve been a 900/1000 RZR. They are steel black hubs with the 12x1.5mm studs. Easy to do and he hasnt had any trouble since.
 
#24 ·
Yea I never did get a chance to go to the dealer and snoop around to check the ranger hubs. If I can ever remember to when I have time I'll try to see which hubs with 12mm studs will fit. I dunno why why your friend was having stud issues? I've ran after market high offset wheels for over 3000 miles and never had a problem with the 3/8" studs myself. I've hit rocks and trees hard enough to break the bearing journals on 4 front oem aluminum hubs, but never any damage to the studs. Any chance he could have under/over tightened them? I ask because I just worked on a buddy's rzr 800S and the lugs were barely hand tight! And I have seen that cause stud to break on vehicles before.
 
#25 ·
For anyone wanting to upgrade to steel hubs and stay with 3/8" wheel studs(stock 800) here is the list of sxs with the hubs you can use and the parts needed to do the swap.

RZR 800/800S steel front hub upgrade, these will fit 2011-14 RZR 800/800S and 2008-10 RZR 800/800S that have had the new bearing upgrade

These steel front hubs can be found on:

2012 Ranger XP 800
2013-14 Ranger 800
2012-16 Ranger 6x6 800
2011-14 Ranger 900 Diesel
2012-14 Ranger 900 Crew Diesel
2014-17 RZR 570(not 2017 570S)
2012-14 RZR 4 800
2011-14 RZR 900XP
2012-14 RZR 4 900XP
2017 ACE 900XC

part numbers

5137659-067 - Hub x 2
5254999 - Rotor x 2
7518978 - Rotor Bolt x 8
7517871 - Wheel Stud(3/8") x 8



800/800S/800 4 seat steel rear hub upgrade

These steel rear hubs can be found on:

2014-17 Ranger Crew 570
2014-17 RZR 570
2017 RZR 570S
2016 ACE 900
2017 ACE 900XC

part numbers

5139163 - Hub x 2
5248250 - Rotor(same as 800/800S/800 4 seat) x2 or re-use your old rotors
7519343 - Rotor Bolts(these are metric, the 800/800S/800 4 seat are S.A.E.) x 8
7518378 - Wheel Studs(3/8" same as 800/800S/800 4 seat) x 8 or re-use your old studs

This is my current setup and it works flawlessly!
 
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#26 · (Edited)
For anyone wanting to upgrade to steel hubs with 12mm studs here is a list of sxs with the hubs that can be used and the part needed to the swap.

RZR 800/800S/800 4 seat steel hub with 12mm stud upgrade:
2013-17 Ranger 900XP
2014-17 Ranger 900 Crew
2014-17 Ranger HST
2015-17 Ranger 1000 Diesel
2015-17 Ranger 1000 Diesel Crew
2015-16 Ranger 570 Full Size
2015-16 Ranger 570 Full Size Crew
2017 Ranger 1000XP
2017 Ranger 1000XP Crew

All use the same front hub.
5137387-067 - Hub x 2
5254999 - Rotor x 2
7518978 - Rotor Bolt x 8
7519753 - Wheel Stud(12mm) x 8
7547638 - Lug Nut(12mm) x 8

These should fit 2011-14 RZR 800/800S/800 4 seat and 2008-10 800/800S/800 4 seat that have had the new bearing upgrade installed on the front.

All use the same rear hub.
5137431-067 - Hub x 2
5248250 - Rotor(same as 800/800S) x 2 or use your old rotors
7519343 - Rotor Bolt x 8 (these are metric, 800's are S.A.E.)
7519753 - Wheel Stud(12mm) x 8
7547638 - Lug Nut(12mm) x 8

These should fit 2008-14 RZR 800/800S/800 4 seat.
 
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#27 ·
I am taking the hubs off today and picking up the new parts later this week. For wheel bearing greaser it looks like I'll need a 40mm for the rear and a 44mm for the front. Once again, my 2010 was mfg in late 2009. I'm upgrading to the steel hubs that fit a 900XP. So I will need the two greasers from what I see. Anyone think this is wrong??
 
#28 ·
You are correct. You need both greasers. 40mm and 44mm.
 
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#29 ·
I'm sure everyone has their favorites, but what kind of grease should I use in the wheel bearings? I usually use a moly synthetic grease in the wheel bearings in the Rincon. I like a water proof/high presser grease for the most part. Any useful input?