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Ill have to try this, I only got 30hrs on my first gates belt, and 2 on the second one, I will be going back to OEM belts. I don't trust the gates anymore. And before you say, you didn't break in your belt, I did as best as I could.
I won't say that, I will say everyone knows the 1000's are eating belts, hence the reason Polaris is putting the new clutch cover on the 15 model. I would also say from your profile pic you are rough on it and ride in the sand where there is additional load.



The real issue is the clutch calibration and the Dalton fixes it.

Do you have a Dalton kit in it?

If you are hurting a stock or gates c12 belt it is not the belt, with over 2000 of them sold by us in the last 15 months with extreme few issues then we can boldly make the statement that it is not the belt.

I assure you it is not the belt.

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Yes I ride only sand, and I run it hard most of the time and expect to get around 30-50 hours on a belt, but when the new one only lasted two hours, it concerned me a little. I also have a stock clutch. Some of the guys suggested running with my clutch cover off, so I think I will give it a try. I am in no way wanting to bash gates, just stating a fact.
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Ill have to try this, I only got 30hrs on my first gates belt, and 2 on the second one, I will be going back to OEM belts. I don't trust the gates anymore. And before you say, you didn't break in your belt, I did as best as I could.
I won't say that, I will say everyone knows the 1000's are eating belts, hence the reason Polaris is putting the new clutch cover on the 15 model. I would also say from your profile pic you are rough on it and ride in the sand where there is additional load.



The real issue is the clutch calibration and the Dalton fixes it.

Do you have a Dalton kit in it?

If you are hurting a stock or gates c12 belt it is not the belt, with over 2000 of them sold by us in the last 15 months with extreme few issues then we can boldly make the statement that it is not the belt.

I assure you it is not the belt.

Todd
Yes I ride only sand, and I run it hard most of the time and expect to get around 30-50 hours on a belt, but when the new one only lasted two hours, it concerned me a little. I also have a stock clutch. Some of the guys suggested running with my clutch cover off, so I think I will give it a try. I am in no way wanting to bash gates, just stating a fact.
I understand that. But think on this, do you really think a company such as gates that is wildly popular on this forum and the sales I mentioned through us is to blame for one lasting only 2 hours?

You need a Dalton clutch kit, the facts are in, the clutch calibration for the 1000 is way off and riding in sand makes it worse.

Search belt issues with 1000 on this forum happens with any and all belts, why? Bad clutch calibration

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Re: Heat Soak and Belt Failure!!

Good info here... We learned this back racing Rhino's. Always let it idle after getting off of the track (even let it go through a fan cycle).

I would just like to add that it is just as important that on a cold start that you let your ride warm up some. We are talking about a friction belt drive here, and the belt likes to have some temp so it is pliable enough to grip the sheaves without slipping.
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Me of course!! LOL

Click that link below, click on clutch kit and read tech article

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Good info here... We learned this back racing Rhino's. Always let it idle after getting off of the track (even let it go through a fan cycle).

I would just like to add that it is just as important that on a cold start that you let your ride warm up some. We are talking about a friction belt drive here, and the belt likes to have some temp so it is pliable enough to grip the sheaves without slipping.
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Hunterworks thanks for reply. It would be helpful for people with this gauge to post some of those temps to get a rough baseline. Your post seems to endorse CVT blower use

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I have the Alba temperature gauge on my exit duct. It is a 2014 XP1K 2 seater. Running around in low and rock crawling the gauge hardly moves. In the dunes it can heat up to 200F in just a couple of bowls. I believe belt damage is a time and temperature thing so I try to not let it get over 200F. I always run high idle for a minute or two after a hard run. It is good for the engine to get the oil flow and cool down hot areas too. Also WOT running down a dirt road heats the belt up fast. Both high speed roads and dunes are the most severe belt heating and I haven't pushed it long enough to see where (if any) the temperature stabilizes. Hope this gives you some idea of how to try and avoid belt damage.

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Hunterworks thanks for reply. It would be helpful for people with this gauge to post some of those temps to get a rough baseline. Your post seems to endorse CVT blower use

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I have the Alba temperature gauge on my exit duct. It is a 2014 XP1K 2 seater. Running around in low and rock crawling the gauge hardly moves. In the dunes it can heat up to 200F in just a couple of bowls. I believe belt damage is a time and temperature thing so I try to not let it get over 200F. I always run high idle for a minute or two after a hard run. It is good for the engine to get the oil flow and cool down hot areas too. Also WOT running down a dirt road heats the belt up fast. Both high speed roads and dunes are the most severe belt heating and I haven't pushed it long enough to see where (if any) the temperature stabilizes. Hope this gives you some idea of how to try and avoid belt damage.
Like this info, not sure where the info in the quote of your post is but I will say unless all you do is slow speed stuff I would not use a blower, slows air down in high rpm riding

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Does it come ready to go, or do I have to do a bunch of adjusting, I am an idiot when it comes to this.
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Does it come ready to go, or do I have to do a bunch of adjusting, I am an idiot when it comes to this.
There is instructions, you look up your set up in the instructions and set weights up accordingly, pick the helix angle from instructions and put it in. I could do one in about a hour.

Should test for shift speed before you button it up but that is about it.

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