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View Poll Results: What all do you use?
Handheld GPS - Garmin Montana 106 18.28%
Handheld GPS - Garmin Oregon 32 5.52%
Handheld GPS - Garmin Nuvi 87 15.00%
Handheld GPS - Garmin Zumo 14 2.41%
Handheld GPS - Lowrance HDS 34 5.86%
Handheld GPS - Lowrance Endura 3 0.52%
Handheld GPS - Polaris XTR (By Lowrance) 13 2.24%
Handheld GPS - Other 70 12.07%
Android Phone/Tablet - Back Country Navigator 132 22.76%
Android Phone/Tablet - Orux Maps 48 8.28%
Android Phone/Tablet - Trimble Outdoors 5 0.86%
iPhone/iPAd - MotionX 96 16.55%
iPhone/iPad - Trimble Outdoors 8 1.38%
Desktop Software (PC) - ExpertGPS 5 0.86%
Desktop Software (PC) - Google Earth 34 5.86%
Desktop Software (PC) - Garmin BaseCamp 51 8.79%
Protective Cases - OtterBox 40 6.90%
Protective Cases - Life Proof 26 4.48%
Protective Cases - Pelican Case 7 1.21%
Mounting Solutions - RAM Mounts 146 25.17%
Mounting Solutions - Gamber Johnson 0 0%
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post #1 of 635 Old October 22nd, 2013, 08:27 PM Thread Starter
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What GPS?, App?, Software?, Case?, Mounts?...The Newbies Guide to getting started!

Let's all help out our fellow Rzr Head's out there who might be newbies to the GPS world or maybe in the market for a new GPS, App, Software, or Mounting System for their GPS.

I have pulled many of the most popular brands, models, and manufacturers together here into one big list as a "where to start" guide.

Please vote for all your favorite products and please provide comment or feedback for others as a "Rzr Owner's Buyers Guide" to help all of our fellow members out for hitting the trail in style!

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If you are new to the GPS world and the associated accessories in this arena, but you are lost at where to start...here are some questions that you need to ask yourself and from the products that you are comparing:

*What is your price range?

If budget is the epic paramount here...then you may want to stick with using what you already have! The vast majority of smartphones and tablets are already GPS capable and offer Apps that provide sub-$20 GPS Navigation solutions that work great out on the trail.

*What roles do you want a unit to serve?

If you are only wanting a GPS for off-roading 1-2x per month...gonna be pretty hard to swallow that $500+ price tag! If you are wanting a unit that can move from the truck, to your wife's car, to the Rzr and everywhere else you go...that $500+ price tag is a lot easier justified.

*Do you need a unit that you can go hiking with or are you vehicle bound only?

Typically low end portable GPS units are all about the portability and light on the features...just how it goes...sorry you also get what you pay for too! Unfortunately, you can't carry a cigarette lighter outlet with you everywhere so you need to pick one...PORTABILITY or FIXED! By solving this dilemma...you can already start to narrow the field fairly rapidly.

*Do you like it deep or are you just a "get your toes wet" kinda guy?

If you have a snokel and know how to use it, an iPhone and OtterBox is NOT for you dude...unless you're into using electronics as targets for sighting in your hunting rifle...try again! If you play in the water...you NEED WATERPROOF...NOT water resistant...WATERPROOF!!! Waterproof means the unit will remain fully sealed when submerged up to (x) depth...water resistant means you can spill your coffee on it, but drop it in your coffee and you might as well just add creamer and head to the store for a replacement!

*How far off the beatin' path do you go?

You MUST be very conscious of battery life...a dead battery will rain on your parade quicker than clouds will! If you are the adventurous type and like to wander off the trail to those secluded scenic spots where the Rzr isn't allowed...then you will want a good battery life.

*Where in the world am I going to mount this thing???

If you already have everything but the kitchen sink in your Rzr...a 10" tablet might not be the answer for you unless you're going to use the camera as a co-pilot! Always consider the size of the unit you are looking at versus what is 'safe' for you to drive with, where in the world you "think" you can mount it, and don't make the mistake of mounting it now somewhere you can't have it in the future...you don't want to be left in that boat of deciding "well damn...should I freeze my a$$ off because a full window won't work with my current GPS mount/location now, or do I want to know where I am at...hmmm?"....honey, grab my coveralls!

*Are you a "features junky" or do you just need "Point A-B"?

If you're a features junky (like me)...you need to make a list of what all you are looking for...topo, aerial, Forest Service access layers, import/export capable, hunting GMU layers, do you REALLY need this thing to double as a fish finder too?!?! If you are just a "Point A-B" guy, Walmart is your friend and most all GPS units will get you to/from where you are going.

*Do you want to record only Waypoints or do you want to record Tracks too?

Do not be mistaken...all units/Apps are NOT created equally! Some can only map Waypoints, some can do both...and some can't do either so PAY ATTENTION HERE!

*Are you a smartphone or tablet guy?

If you are...then the MOST important thing here is to make sure the phone/tablet HAS a STANDALONE GPS RECEIVER built-in! A GPS doesn't do you any good if you 'can't hear me now'! However, you are in luck here...if you are an Android kinda guy, you are pretty safe with 98% of all Android devices, but if you are a Forest Gump fan that likes to invest in fruit companies...then you need to be careful which iPhone/iPad you choose. Most importantly, don't sell your phone or tablet short...how often do you take your phone/tablet with you?...how often do you carry your "other" GPS with you??? With your smartphone or tablet compared to another GPS unit, you are more likely to have it and not need it than need it and forgot you left it on the kitchen table [insert slap forehead here followed by wife telling you I told you not to forget it]!!!

*But I thought if I traveled outside of cellular coverage the GPS wouldn't work in my phone/tablet?

You need to read my post here: https://www.rzrforums.net/gps/121976-...il-riding.html

*What if I am having trouble determining whether or not my smartphone or tablet has a standalone GPS built-in?

If you are having trouble determining whether or not your smartphone or tablet has GPS support, please go to the following applicable links for your devices and scroll down to the technical specifications charts which list each of the models and capabilities for all those models.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_devices

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPad

*Are you looking for a GoPro Camera or already have one???

You need to read my post here: https://www.rzrforums.net/gps/130224-...your-hero.html

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*Now...what if your only hangup remaining and keeping you held back from walking away from that GPS handheld is the Turn-by-Turn directions...

Well I have found the Android/iOS solution to this issue! You need to check out the Google Play or iTunes Store for the App "CoPilot Premium USA" by ALK Technologies, Inc.

With BCN Pro (or MotionX for iPhone/iPad) and CoPilot Premium USA both installed on a Smarthphone/Tablet...you can pretty much have everything on your smartphone now WITHOUT Cellular Service, just the same as any $500 Garmin or Lowrance for just ~$27 in Apps!

Here is what CoPilot Premium USA offers:

-Voice guided, turn-by-turn directions
-ActiveTraffic service (for when in-network of cellular/WiFi) for up-to-date traffic notifications
-Capability to store OFFLINE(!!!!) maps for all of North America right on your smartphone/tablet....(not in-network...NO PROBLEM!!!)
-Map updates are FREE
-Use the 'Alternative Route' feature to quickly choose from (3) different alternative routes with the click of just a button!
-Navigate to an Address or a Contact in your smartphone/tablets contact list
-Lifetime use: pay once, get a CoPilot for life!


https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...emiumusa&hl=en

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/copi...441125930?mt=8

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I wish you luck on your quest for your "perfect" GPS solution, but if you don't have the answer or need to ask questions...ping us on here and we will all be more than glad to lend an ear and then an opinion.

Consumer Products References:

GPS Handhelds:
http://www.garmin.com/en-US]Garmin |... States | Home

http://www.lowrance.com/en-US/]LOWRA...ne Electronics


Android Smartphone/Tablet Apps:
http://backcountrynavigator.com/]BackCountry


iPhone/iPad Navigation Apps:
http://www.oruxmaps.com/index_en.html]OruxMaps

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/lead...eadNav GPS App

http://gps.motionx.com/ipad/overview...PS HD Overview


Desktop/Laptop PC Software:
http://www.expertgps.com/

http://www.google.com/earth/]Google Earth

http://www.garmin.com/en-US/shop/dow... United States


Protective Cases:
http://www.otterbox.com/]OtterBox iP...or smartphones

http://www.lifeproof.com/en/]iPhone ...es | LifeProof

http://www.pelican.com/]Welcome to w...uctible cases.


Mounting Solutions:
http://www.rammount.com/]RAM Mounting Systems, Inc.

For a mount...I highly recommend taking a look at the RAM X-Grip Universal Mounts here...just put your phone/tablet in an OtterBox or Lifeproof and drop it in the mount!

http://www.rammount.com/products/xgrip

http://www.gamberjohnson.com/]Laptop...nts For Trucks


Cameras:
http://gopro.com/


Desktop/Smartphone/Custom Maps (including Waterproof maps):
www.mytopo.com

www.GpsFileDepot.com

www.GpsXChange.com


Gloves that work with Smartphones and Tablets:
http://www.glove.ly/?gclid=COWNwu3U1sUCFQEFaQod-bwAUQ


Tips & Tricks for newbies...

*If you go to the 'Trip Database' menu if you are using the BackCountry Navigator Pro App...you can also use the "Find Trails" option to search for tracks logged by others and shared to a web server for FREE download...downfall is there are no guarantees somebody has uploaded for the area you may be going to but definitely a very nice feature. I know there are Hatfield & McCoy Trails and such on the server.

*Having problems with your phone or tablet being very hard to read/see outdoors???

-Here is the main trick to using any smartphone or tablet outdoors...turn OFF the "Auto" brightness setting on the screen and set the screens brightness to the maximum setting! If you don't do this, it will be extremely hard to see because the "Auto" setting will just hold your screens brightness to a very low setting when it senses the high light conditions outdoors and the screen will be nearly black.

*Thanks to BobT for this -> "GpsFileDepot is the best place to get "Maps" for Garmin GPSr's. These maps will not work on Lowrance or BCN. BCN only accepts "Tracks". A Garmin "Map" is a vector image made up of many "Tracks". A "Map" might be a picture of as many as 500 "Tracks". You will need to find the originally tracked GPX tracks for BCN. GpsXChange.com - GPS Tracklog / Waypoints / Route exchange Forum is one source for GPX files but it is limited in my opinion."

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Not only do I use the zoom tablet for the Back Country Navigator, it is put to use with the GoPro app and Sony app to control my GoPro3 blk and Sony Action Cam. I can function all the cams and view the cams video with the ram mounts on my steering column. All done by the WiFi of the Zoom. It also helps to power the cams and Zoom with the XP4's 12v battery. The cams are noted for their short battery life.
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Not only do I use the zoom tablet for the Back Country Navigator, it is put to use with the GoPro app and Sony app to control my GoPro3 blk and Sony Action Cam. I can function all the cams and view the cams video with the ram mounts on my steering column. All done by the WiFi of the Zoom. It also helps to power the cams and Zoom with the XP4's 12v battery. The cams are noted for their short battery life.
I thought about adding the GoPro's to the poll questions, but there are too many to list and I am only really familiar with the GoPro and I really wanted to present a fair representation to the best-in-the-industry as I know there are a couple other cameras out there suited well for off-roading too. If you or anyone else has the skinny on the "camera(s) to have" breakdown, please either add it here or start a new thread dedicated to cameras similar to this one with a link to this thread and post your link to your thread here for quick referencing back-and-forth to tie these subjects all together if you can.
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Not only do I use the zoom tablet for the Back Country Navigator, it is put to use with the GoPro app and Sony app to control my GoPro3 blk and Sony Action Cam. I can function all the cams and view the cams video with the ram mounts on my steering column. All done by the WiFi of the Zoom. It also helps to power the cams and Zoom with the XP4's 12v battery. The cams are noted for their short battery life.




I run a setup that another thread recommended a wile back:


Gen 1 Google Nexus 7 tablet (great GPS in this and the 7" size can be read thru the steering wheel)


Back Country Navigator Pro (Also paid for the trail map sets, well worth it for Cali desert riding) (i have Orux, but BCN was more stable and had better data available)


Gumdrop case (not waterproof, but very water resistant and pretty much dust proof


Ram Mount yoke ball and spring loaded tablet mount attached to steering column.


USB 12v adapter and cable for charging





I looked at using phones, ipads and pretty much everything else and came back to this setup due to size, ease of use and accuracy, plus as mentioned, i run the go pro app and have my music on the tablet as well. I have a Go Pro 3 Black and a Go pro HD.
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I like the Motion X software a lot. Plugged into the cigarette lighter, I have used it all day with no issues at all. I have been waiting forever for a blue tooth hook up to the sound system. Before it was either music in the SSV case or out on the mount.
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I use the Garmin Montana 650t with 24k mapping mounted using the
Garmin marine mount.
This setup has worked flawlessly for over two years.
Combine this setup with the Garmin BaseCamp software for your laptop
or PC and the possibilities are endless.
Record tracks with your Montana then download to BaseCamp and you can save,
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Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 in an Otterbox Defender case. Ram mount on steering column with a SlipGrip to hold it together. Back country Navigator Pro with a huge cashe of maps. Also a printed map as backup. Battery life is great due to being rooted and stripped of any unnecessary programs. I have a 2.1 amp usb charger that I use when needed. After I get an amp and speakers it will be used for music too.
I am gonna be looking into the GoPro thing too.
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If you guys have a picture handy please post them.. So many options not sure what one is for me

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I roll with a Samsung Galaxy Note II....it's a cell phone, tablet, GPS, camera, flashlight, weather station, and Ballistics Calculator all-in-one with Apps.

Only major bummer is battery life sucks...8-10 hours without using GPS...2-3 running the standalone GPS on full backlight. Whenever out riding I always keep it docked and charging, but it can be quickly undocked to take pictures with it. I do however carry the largest Mophie portable charger pack they make with me though in case I need to venture away from the Rzr on the trail. I also carry my Motorola Droid Razr Maxx HD phone as well and have BackCountry Navigator Pro installed on it too ready-to-go as a backup. The battery life is awesome on the Razr...24-30 hours without using GPS...6-8 hours or better running the standalone GPS. Note: Motorola Droids are hit and miss with BackCountry Navigator due to being prone to crashing the BCN App for unknown reasons...I however happen to have got one of the lucky ones that doesn't.

When using the smartphones/tablets you will want to mount them in such a way or location as to reduce glare from the high resolution displays. I use the suction cup docking cradle mounted as high up on the window as I can which shades the display from nearly 95% of any glare and is extremely visible while running down the trail in this location with full backlight....not to mention its up and out of the way too. Charging cord is ran down the cage to a constant hot +12v cigarette outlet I wired direct to battery so the Galaxy Note II is always charging.
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how about thew Polaris Lowrance XTR i think that is the way i am going a little expensive but think its the best way to go. water proof, dust proof, rattle shake proof, big screen no batteries needed. many options.
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*Are you a smartphone or tablet guy?

If you are...then the MOST important thing here is to make sure the phone/tablet HAS a STANDALONE GPS RECEIVER built-in! A GPS doesn't do you any good if you 'can't hear me now'! However, you are in luck here...if you are an Android kinda guy, you are pretty safe with 98% of all Android devices, but if you are a Forest Gump fan that likes to invest in fruit companies...then you need to be careful which iPhone/iPad you choose. Most importantly, don't sell your phone or tablet short...how often do you take your phone/tablet with you?...how often do you carry your "other" GPS with you??? With your smartphone or tablet compared to another GPS unit, you are more likely to have it and not need it than need it and forgot you left it on the kitchen table [insert slap forehead here followed by wife telling you I told you not to forget it]!!!

*But I thought if I traveled outside of cellular coverage the GPS wouldn't work in my phone/tablet?

Does the iphone 5 have a standalone GPS receiver? I just got the motion x-gps app and it seems pretty cool,but haven't used it out on the trail yet.





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If you are having trouble determining whether or not your smartphone or tablet has GPS support, please go to the following applicable links to your devices and scroll down to the technical specifications charts which lists each of the models and capabilities for all those models.

Comparison of Android devices - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone

iPad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


*I have added this to the original post as well to provide quick access to this information.
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