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post #16 of 31 Old May 16th, 2012, 08:33 PM
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Re: installed rzr-s belt now wont go into gear.

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Ya, the new belt is tighter than the old one, so it's "dragging" on the clutch; you need to break it in for awhile......my two-bits......

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i guess i can try to get it into gear. it tries to move tho. maybe i just have to get it in gear and go up and down the road a few miles??
If you want to run it to break it in then shift it into gear with the engine off kind of a pain but better that grinding gears.
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Re: installed rzr-s belt now wont go into gear.

Polaris sleds are know for the clutch alignment to be WAY off from the factory. I wouldnt be surprised if this is true for the rzr as well. If the alignment is off it will drag on the belt and cause the secondary to spin and cause the grinding. I know my rzr did the same thing with the factory belt when new. I havent aligned it yet. It went away after a little while. I will be aligning the clutches sooner or later though, because I will be using a "S" belt in the future.

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Re: installed rzr-s belt now wont go into gear.

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its an 08, the machine has 30 hours on it. the belt is part number 3211133. will this work?
You have been sold the wrong Polaris CVT belt.

Your '08 RzR takes a 3211113 CVT belt. This measures 1.188"

If you wish to upgrade to a much stronger CVT belt -- The correct belt to use on your '08 is the '09S CVT belt -- 3211130. This measures 1.178"

You have been sold a Polaris CVT belt that is to wide for the spacing of your clutch sheaves. The 3211133 belt measures appx. 1.225". If you wish to use this CVT belt - You must re-shim the clutches thus allowing the use of this wider CVT belt.

You don't have a clutch alignment issue - You're running the incorrect belt for your year RzR.

Use a veneer caliper if you wish to verify this.

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Re: installed rzr-s belt now wont go into gear.

I have a 2008 with the roller secondary. I have the ***33 belt on it. It is not a belt that just fits, it is as said, to wide. I shimmed my secondary clutch to make this belt work in an attempt for maximum sheave use. You need to take the clutch all apart, split the sheaves and space them apart father to set your delfection. I suggest getting the other belt mentioned.

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Re: installed rzr-s belt now wont go into gear.

I have a new 3211113 belt still in the package that I'm carrying for a spare that I would trade with you, "if you are interested". I'm running a 2012 and looking at the other posts I wouldn't need to shim my secondary. Let me know if ???? if not no big deal. Just trying to rid my 2012 of the squealing when I slow down!
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Re: installed rzr-s belt now wont go into gear.

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its an 08, the machine has 30 hours on it. the belt is part number 3211133. will this work?
You have been sold the wrong Polaris CVT belt.

Your '08 RzR takes a 3211113 CVT belt. This measures 1.188"

If you wish to upgrade to a much stronger CVT belt -- The correct belt to use on your '08 is the '09S CVT belt -- 3211130. This measures 1.178"

You have been sold a Polaris CVT belt that is to wide for the spacing of your clutch sheaves. The 3211133 belt measures appx. 1.225". If you wish to use this CVT belt - You must re-shim the clutches thus allowing the use of this wider CVT belt.

You don't have a clutch alignment issue - You're running the incorrect belt for your year RzR.

Use a veneer caliper if you wish to verify this.

3211133 is the belt i found in my 2010 RZR4. is that the correct one???
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its an 08, the machine has 30 hours on it. the belt is part number 3211133. will this work?
You have been sold the wrong Polaris CVT belt.

Your '08 RzR takes a 3211113 CVT belt. This measures 1.188"

If you wish to upgrade to a much stronger CVT belt -- The correct belt to use on your '08 is the '09S CVT belt -- 3211130. This measures 1.178"

You have been sold a Polaris CVT belt that is to wide for the spacing of your clutch sheaves. The 3211133 belt measures appx. 1.225". If you wish to use this CVT belt - You must re-shim the clutches thus allowing the use of this wider CVT belt.

You don't have a clutch alignment issue - You're running the incorrect belt for your year RzR.

Use a veneer caliper if you wish to verify this.

3211133 is the belt i found in my 2010 RZR4. is that the correct one???
I think that is the correct belt for the RZR 4. If I'm correct the 133 is the S belt that we all want to upgade too! The RZR 4 is a 4 seater in an S suspension, right??? I never could figure out what the difference was between the RZR and the RZR-S when it came to the motor to belt drive! Just different clutching due to the size of the machine or tire wheel combination? Getting back to your ? I think you have the correct belt. Maybe open up the houseing and see what you have on it now..........
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Re: installed rzr-s belt now wont go into gear.

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I think that is the correct belt for the RZR 4. If I'm correct the 133 is the S belt that we all want to upgade too! The RZR 4 is a 4 seater in an S suspension, right??? I never could figure out what the difference was between the RZR and the RZR-S when it came to the motor to belt drive! Just different clutching due to the size of the machine or tire wheel combination? Getting back to your ? I think you have the correct belt. Maybe open up the houseing and see what you have on it now..........[/QUOTE]

Yeah i have it opened to see what kind of condition its in and thats the part number on it. I just bought it with 1300 miles and i think its the original and i want to replace it to be on the safe side.
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Re: installed rzr-s belt now wont go into gear.

I think that is the correct belt for the RZR 4. If I'm correct the 133 is the S belt that we all want to upgade too! The RZR 4 is a 4 seater in an S suspension, right??? I never could figure out what the difference was between the RZR and the RZR-S when it came to the motor to belt drive! Just different clutching due to the size of the machine or tire wheel combination? Getting back to your ? I think you have the correct belt. Maybe open up the houseing and see what you have on it now..........[/QUOTE]

Yeah i have it opened to see what kind of condition its in and thats the part number on it. I just bought it with 1300 miles and i think its the original and i want to replace it to be on the safe side.[/QUOTE]

That's a good idea. This way you have the used belt for a spare. If you break or burn the old belt you have nothing.
Don't forget to clean that new belt with warm soapy water and run her easy for the first 50 miles to break her in. It will last longer for ya! JMO
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Re: installed rzr-s belt now wont go into gear.

In my 09 I just put in the 133 belt with no shimming. It sits above the secondary about 1/8" just like you'd run a sled belt. All I can think of is it might be too short from factory.
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Re: installed rzr-s belt now wont go into gear.

For 2008 some have the Team roller secondary, after that this clutch was not used. If all of you guys can use this belt no problem , of who has posted have newer machines, that is probably the difference.

When I put this belt on it was tight to the bearing on primary and holding secondary open some. I added a shim (.125?)/big washer I machined, I now have the belt riding about 1/8 to 3/16 above on the secondary and about the same on the primary when it is all shifted out.

I never rode it with the stock belt. Results as of now, take off is good, I have seen 62 on dirt road on polaris speedo there is more but lack of room and need to go faster. I have the mods in my signature and all STOCK clutch kit. Take off hit 5800 right away then carries up to about 6200-6300. No belt squeak/squeal.

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Re: installed rzr-s belt now wont go into gear.

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its an 08, the machine has 30 hours on it. the belt is part number 3211133. will this work?
You have been sold the wrong Polaris CVT belt.

Your '08 RzR takes a 3211113 CVT belt. This measures 1.188"

If you wish to upgrade to a much stronger CVT belt -- The correct belt to use on your '08 is the '09S CVT belt -- 3211130. This measures 1.178"

You have been sold a Polaris CVT belt that is to wide for the spacing of your clutch sheaves. The 3211133 belt measures appx. 1.225". If you wish to use this CVT belt - You must re-shim the clutches thus allowing the use of this wider CVT belt.

You don't have a clutch alignment issue - You're running the incorrect belt for your year RzR.

Use a veneer caliper if you wish to verify this.

We have a Winner! Great explanation. Use the Belt that is for your Rig 3211113, for what little gain obtained by a S belt in my opinion is not worth paying twice the amount of money for. Two Standard Belts cost about as much as a S Belt.

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I think that is the correct belt for the RZR 4. If I'm correct the 133 is the S belt that we all want to upgade too! The RZR 4 is a 4 seater in an S suspension, right??? I never could figure out what the difference was between the RZR and the RZR-S when it came to the motor to belt drive! Just different clutching due to the size of the machine or tire wheel combination? Getting back to your ? I think you have the correct belt. Maybe open up the houseing and see what you have on it now..........
Yeah i have it opened to see what kind of condition its in and thats the part number on it. I just bought it with 1300 miles and i think its the original and i want to replace it to be on the safe side.[/QUOTE]

That's a good idea. This way you have the used belt for a spare. If you break or burn the old belt you have nothing.
Don't forget to clean that new belt with warm soapy water and run her easy for the first 50 miles to break her in. It will last longer for ya! JMO[/QUOTE]

Thanks man!
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Re: installed rzr-s belt now wont go into gear.

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Works on 2012, anything else I'm not sure. As long as it doesn't creep, it will probably break in. Run it around in the yard in low then see how it does. Maybe mine was set up loose, that's why I was slipping the belt in high gear alot.
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its an 08, the machine has 30 hours on it. the belt is part number 3211133. will this work?
You have been sold the wrong Polaris CVT belt.

Your '08 RzR takes a 3211113 CVT belt. This measures 1.188"

If you wish to upgrade to a much stronger CVT belt -- The correct belt to use on your '08 is the '09S CVT belt -- 3211130. This measures 1.178"

You have been sold a Polaris CVT belt that is to wide for the spacing of your clutch sheaves. The 3211133 belt measures appx. 1.225". If you wish to use this CVT belt - You must re-shim the clutches thus allowing the use of this wider CVT belt.

You don't have a clutch alignment issue - You're running the incorrect belt for your year RzR.

Use a veneer caliper if you wish to verify this.


we have a winner!!!!

the 3211130 belt worked. hell i even stumped the polaris parts guys..

admins should move this to the tech section for early rzr stuff

thanks for everyones help
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