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post #16 of 43 Old January 21st, 2012, 06:47 PM
 
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I think that pass was just fine those guys knew he was there, they were not going to pull over. The only thing he could of done was wait a little longer to get on the gas.
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this is a toughy
i say the utv boys knew he was behind them,
they should have made better room for the bike to pass,
why have the confrontation?
every body should be having fun,
i was following a 4x4 just crawling along on a trail for about 2 miles once,
he knew i was behind him they were hunters,
i watched him not yeild to eight atv,s coming the other way made them all pull over,
so when i had the chance pissed,
i blazed a fast trial around him,
thats being on the receiving end of a hay hole who is ignorant and driving reeeally slow,
so i see both sides,

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Most of my riding is where no motorcycles are aloud,but they sneek them in, i dont care what they do just dont roost shit at me or my rzr,if they do i will find them and have words or blows what ever they want. I respect everyone on the trail and want the same in return. luckly we dont run into alot of people. When im out riding im real calm because im not at work and im drinking beer and playing with my toys!!!!!!!
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Most of my riding is where no motorcycles are aloud,but they sneek them in, i dont care what they do just dont roost shit at me or my rzr,if they do i will find them and have words or blows what ever they want. I respect everyone on the trail and want the same in return. luckly we dont run into alot of people. When im out riding im real calm because im not at work and im drinking beer and playing with my toys!!!!!!!
Where do you ride that does not allow motorcycles? I thought mortorcycles could use any atv trail.
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Well since I own dirtbikes and ride just about everything for off-roading I can tell you something about dirtbikers. Most if not all younger riders HATE quads, I'm not sure their take on SxS's but I'm sure it isn't much better. The guys around my age (40's) don't really care unless you're the one being an idiot like riding a utility quad on the MX track. Which in that case, you deserve to be roosted.

I believe that some of the dirtbike crowd just realize how far and how hard their roost can be. So when the go to pass they hammer the gas and you get roosted. (Some may be intentional and some may not)

My main way of riding is... be aware of who is around you, if someone is coming up fast, get out of the way and let them by and 99% of the time you'll be fine. Drive with no clue hogging the trail and doing 20mpg, good chance you're pissing someone off behind you because you're being an idiot yourself. And this goes for anything you are riding off-road. Just my .02 on the subject.

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Most of my riding is where no motorcycles are aloud,but they sneek them in, i dont care what they do just dont roost shit at me or my rzr,if they do i will find them and have words or blows what ever they want. I respect everyone on the trail and want the same in return. luckly we dont run into alot of people. When im out riding im real calm because im not at work and im drinking beer and playing with my toys!!!!!!!
Where do you ride that does not allow motorcycles? I thought mortorcycles could use any atv trail.
Bloody skillet and the connecter to snow shoe,plus a ton of unmarked trails in the area, PA centre county!! We ride from camp and dont see alot of people except for holiday weekends.
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I was actually riding a buddy's 1150 GS BMW (he was behind me on my KTM) on some backcountry mountain roads, having the time of my life when I came up on a couple of quads.

I dawdled along behind them for at least a mile (a motorcycle's headlight is always on, remember) and they refused to move over even after I caught eye contact several times with the trailing rider in his mirror.

Even on a county road-- narrow as it was-- those two had it pretty well bottlednecked, but eventually I just forced the issue & passed. It was REALLY close, too, and you can leave quite a roost with 1150 cc's.

If those pusheads had just done what I would have & pulled over, it would have been a non-event for all involved.
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I try to treat others how I would want to be treated. I have mirrors on my RZR so I can see what is coming up from behind. Most often, provided there is space, I will pull aside and wave them on. People are generally nice enough to do this for me too. If it's super dusty, they should understand that I don't want to eat their dust for the nest 5 minutes and stay back a ways. Good manners go along ways.

However, I've also had the jerks pull their crap on me too where they pass with full throttle, throwing rocks and crap. Like you, it infuriates me...totally unnecessary and disrespectful. I figure Karma will get them sooner or later.

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In the case of the original poster where the situation at hand was a planned poker run, in my opinion if that run was going to include a bikes, ATV's and UTV's then they should have done a staggered start. Bikes then ATV's then the UTV's.

I know when I go ride with friends and there is a mixed group of bikes, ATV's and UTV's,...we always head out on the trail in that order.

As for trails where there are many people out and about and you may or may not know them, I have a common courtesy policy.... in where a faster rider comes up when it is a safe and convenient place to get over I get over and let them go around.

In my opinion if people are not prepared for a little give and take and common courtesy/respect while on the trail and are just out to be an hothead with no respect for anyone but themselfs then they should just say home....thats my take.

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If i come up behind u. i will allow u the chance to nicely let me pass. If u dont i'll take it. Rules of the trail. Yield to the faster rider unless your racing.
Nobody ever said shit to me. People are alot tougher on the internet than in person.

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This happened to me a couple weeks ago at a Charity ride we all went to. My buddies and I are all motorcycle guys but I obviously have a passion for UTV's as well. Bikes obviously can maneuver faster than UTV's on a trail so I think it's fair that all UTV's should pull over when it's safe and let the motorcycles pass. From what I seen most guys pull over and let us pass. However, at the Charity ride my buddies and I wanted to ride a specific trail which took us about an hour to get to. We finally get the the trail and start riding it at a fast clip, only to come up on a RZR with two guys in it trying to race the trail. Like I said before, dirt bike's are much faster than RZR's in tight places. We all were talking over our radios and decided to slow down, sit behind the guys, and wait for a bigger spot where they could pull over and let us by. We passed a couple spots where they could have easily pulled over and let us by but instead ignored us and kept going. We started to get mad because we couldn't ride the trail like we wanted to so we all made some aggressive passes and definitely sprayed them with mud. IMO, they definitely deserved it. We gave them multiple chances to pull over but instead they ignored us. Other than them everyone else I've ran into has been super nice, pulled over, and waved us through.

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Well since I own dirtbikes and ride just about everything for off-roading I can tell you something about dirtbikers. Most if not all younger riders HATE quads, I'm not sure their take on SxS's but I'm sure it isn't much better. The guys around my age (40's) don't really care unless you're the one being an idiot like riding a utility quad on the MX track. Which in that case, you deserve to be roosted.

I believe that some of the dirtbike crowd just realize how far and how hard their roost can be. So when the go to pass they hammer the gas and you get roosted. (Some may be intentional and some may not)

My main way of riding is... be aware of who is around you, if someone is coming up fast, get out of the way and let them by and 99% of the time you'll be fine. Drive with no clue hogging the trail and doing 20mpg, good chance you're pissing someone off behind you because you're being an idiot yourself. And this goes for anything you are riding off-road. Just my .02 on the subject.
Like I said in my previous post, I'm a moto guy myself (21 years old) and never really hated quads. However, this weekend kind of change my opinion about them. We were all at a bar Friday night planning a trail ride for the next day. My buddies friend (works for a major off road company) butted in saying how he wanted to come. I asked him if he rides dirtbikes and the reply I got from him is "No, I ride quads which is the same thing." Not saying anything, we loaded up an XR400 for him to ride and headed out to Pozo. We get there and he didn't know how to start the bike, so we started it for him. Without hesitation he hops on and drops the clutch. To sum it all up, he crashed turning around in the staging area and broke the perch off the bike. My buddy and I go on a ride without him, only to come back and see he took my girlfriend's bike out (XR200) only to see he did the same thing to that, bent the bars, and the rear tire was flat. I know this guy doesn't speak for all ATV guys but that's my two cents of why moto guys don't like quad guys.

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I ride dirt bikes and we typically run at speeds significantly faster than ATVís and UTVís. Normally I ride on trails not wide enough for the ATVís and UTVís but I sometimes end up crossing their paths. When I come up behind slower riders (on any toy) I am generally patient so they know I am back there. If they donít notice I will rev the engine a bit just to let them know I am there. Generally they will then move over a bit to let me around. I think in some cases it offends the driver when I rev the engine (even though my only intention is to let them know I am there). I have even been behind vehicles that will not move over. In those cases I just pick a short open section and around I go. When I am with a group of bikes, sometimes passing a group of ATVís can be interesting as they seldom look back and can be startled by our presence. I never intentionally ďroostĒ someone I pass as we are all there for the same reason, just on different machines. As a rider, I hope all dirt bikers are courteous, as well as the guys on ATVís and UTVís.
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I ride dirt bikes and we typically run at speeds significantly faster than ATVís and UTVís. Normally I ride on trails not wide enough for the ATVís and UTVís but I sometimes end up crossing their paths. When I come up behind slower riders (on any toy) I am generally patient so they know I am back there. If they donít notice I will rev the engine a bit just to let them know I am there. Generally they will then move over a bit to let me around. I think in some cases it offends the driver when I rev the engine (even though my only intention is to let them know I am there). I have even been behind vehicles that will not move over. In those cases I just pick a short open section and around I go. When I am with a group of bikes, sometimes passing a group of ATVís can be interesting as they seldom look back and can be startled by our presence. I never intentionally ďroostĒ someone I pass as we are all there for the same reason, just on different machines. As a rider, I hope all dirt bikers are courteous, as well as the guys on ATVís and UTVís.

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Like I said in my previous post, I'm a moto guy myself (21 years old) and never really hated quads. However, this weekend kind of change my opinion about them. We were all at a bar Friday night planning a trail ride for the next day. My buddies friend (works for a major off road company) butted in saying how he wanted to come. I asked him if he rides dirtbikes and the reply I got from him is "No, I ride quads which is the same thing." Not saying anything, we loaded up an XR400 for him to ride and headed out to Pozo. We get there and he didn't know how to start the bike, so we started it for him. Without hesitation he hops on and drops the clutch. To sum it all up, he crashed turning around in the staging area and broke the perch off the bike. My buddy and I go on a ride without him, only to come back and see he took my girlfriend's bike out (XR200) only to see he did the same thing to that, bent the bars, and the rear tire was flat. I know this guy doesn't speak for all ATV guys but that's my two cents of why moto guys don't like quad guys. [/QUOTE]

that guy sounds like a douche. i ride sport quad and rzr. places where we ride fast like wayne national seems like everyone is in our way, dirtbikers, utility quads, rzrs etc. we've even passed dirtbikers on the rzrs they were riding so slow. we treat them all the same, fellow riders just enjoying the sport. but if you see us back there & know we are faster please pull over. if your broken down no matter what you ride ill stop and offer to help. its all just for the ride

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