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post #1 of 63 Old August 11th, 2019, 11:52 AM Thread Starter
 
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Swapped out my OEM air filter on my 18 XPT 30 hours and 335 miles ago for the Donaldson powercore g2. I never got a good look down the intake after I took the old filter off, but I inspected today and noticed a fine amount of dust on the intake elbow out of the air box. I couldn’t tell if the plastic was hazy or not so I wiped it and sure enough it’s a very thin layer.

Is anyone else having problems with the powercore or OEM? What’s an acceptable amount of dust? I’d assume NONE....
I know oem is the best, but the powercore flows better and is guaranteed for so many miles, so I thought I’d give it a shot. Not feeling so great now.
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Have had a RZR since the 2008 model. My opinion is to ALWAYS stick with the OEM filters. Tested a bunch of stuff in 2008. Nothing worked. Polaris is very good at provided the filters that work best. Anything that flows better means it is not filtering as good as the OEM. Lots of false information from those who want to sell their product.
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Adding on. You are correct ZERO dust is the goal. Good advice, change your oil and filter now and again in 20 hrs or less to flush out the dirt in the engine.

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Zero dust, Zero Dust, Zero dust !!
My 2014 has over 5000 miles, I clean the air filter every third or fourth ride, I have never seen any dust.
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Have had a RZR since the 2008 model. My opinion is to ALWAYS stick with the OEM filters. Tested a bunch of stuff in 2008. Nothing worked. Polaris is very good at provided the filters that work best. Anything that flows better means it is not filtering as good as the OEM. Lots of false information from those who want to sell their product AND THOSE POSTING HERE
Do a little research on Donaldson...I think they just might know a little more about making air filters than Polaris
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Re: Acceptable amount of dust in intake

I have been running the Powercore the one from AA sells ...and also the OEM. I always grease the rubber lip ...and I have not seen any dust what so ever and I check this closely every time I change or clean it
I would say the Powercore and the Donaldson / OEM both work excellent. The only time I have seen any trace of dust is when I did not add more grease to the plastic intake lip
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Have had a RZR since the 2008 model. My opinion is to ALWAYS stick with the OEM filters. Tested a bunch of stuff in 2008. Nothing worked. Polaris is very good at provided the filters that work best. Anything that flows better means it is not filtering as good as the OEM. Lots of false information from those who want to sell their product AND THOSE POSTING HERE
Do a little research on Donaldson...I think they just might know a little more about making air filters than Polaris
And just who do you think Polaris works with to get the filters.
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Have had a RZR since the 2008 model. My opinion is to ALWAYS stick with the OEM filters. Tested a bunch of stuff in 2008. Nothing worked. Polaris is very good at provided the filters that work best. Anything that flows better means it is not filtering as good as the OEM. Lots of false information from those who want to sell their product.
Yes, because nothing has improved since 2008.

I just went through this and there a lot of fans of the OEM filter. I am not one of them as I had the same issue as the OP. Fine dust getting inside the filter and inside the intake tube. I switched over to the desert craft filter and after two rides in excess of 130 miles each in very dusty conditions I have zero, zip, nada dust anywhere on the clean side of the filter.
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Have had a RZR since the 2008 model. My opinion is to ALWAYS stick with the OEM filters. Tested a bunch of stuff in 2008. Nothing worked. Polaris is very good at provided the filters that work best. Anything that flows better means it is not filtering as good as the OEM. Lots of false information from those who want to sell their product AND THOSE POSTING HERE
Do a little research on Donaldson...I think they just might know a little more about making air filters than Polaris
And just who do you think Polaris works with to get the filters.
The lowest bidder
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Re: Acceptable amount of dust in intake

Riding in the Arizona dust for 5800 miles on my XP, using the “expensive” Polaris filter, made by Donaldson. Zero dust.......blow it out periodically, then change it after a few cleanings.

If somebody else can do better, prove it.
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Have had a RZR since the 2008 model. My opinion is to ALWAYS stick with the OEM filters. Tested a bunch of stuff in 2008. Nothing worked. Polaris is very good at provided the filters that work best. Anything that flows better means it is not filtering as good as the OEM. Lots of false information from those who want to sell their product.
Yes, because nothing has improved since 2008.

I just went through this and there a lot of fans of the OEM filter. I am not one of them as I had the same issue as the OP. Fine dust getting inside the filter and inside the intake tube. I switched over to the desert craft filter and after two rides in excess of 130 miles each in very dusty conditions I have zero, zip, nada dust anywhere on the clean side of the filter.
And there are those who claim they can walk on water too!!!!! Did you try the Polaris HD, Donaldson filter? Polaris has changed over to it at least in their Turbos and the 2017 XP also had it in it. To each his own. And no not everything has changed since 2008. Some of the filters I tested and failed very badly are still on the market being sold with the same false information about better flow and more HP. That is OK. Keeps the engine builders in business. Do a little research on this forum. Find those who are complaining about oil use and or loss of power. First question is what air filter are you using? They did not use a OEM filter.

Any filter that claims to be cleanable by blowing out is one I will never use. Based on experience in off road and on road diesel use and observations over the years. They use to claim to be able to clean the big diesel paper filters. That did not last long. Found out it destroyed the filter paper and let more dirt through. Now it is recommend to replace only. Gentle tap out but still better to replace. Trying to save money on filters is extremely self defeating and will cost so much more in long run.

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Do a little research on Donaldson...I think they just might know a little more about making air filters than Polaris
And just who do you think Polaris works with to get the filters.
The lowest bidder
Wrong. Best quality filter medium.

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Just my .02 - regardless of which air filter you choose, anybody who rides in significant dust should be looking at adding an S&B Particle Separator to their rig. I have 109 hours/2087 miles on mine, almost all of it riding in desert dust - I'm still running the original air filter it came with off the showroom floor and it still looks like brand new. The inside of my airbox is pristine - no dust in the airbox, none in the intake. I inspect it every few rides, but have never had to clean my filter or airbox even once.


I thought the S&B was a lot of hype when the service guys at the dealership highly recommended it to me at the time I bought my RZR. Nearly 2 years of experience with it has made me a believer.
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Just my .02 - regardless of which air filter you choose, anybody who rides in significant dust should be looking at adding an S&B Particle Separator to their rig. I have 109 hours/2087 miles on mine, almost all of it riding in desert dust - I'm still running the original air filter it came with off the showroom floor and it still looks like brand new. The inside of my air box is pristine - no dust in the airbox, none in the intake.


I thought the S&B was a lot of hype when the service guys at the dealership highly recommended it to me at the time I bought my RZR. Nearly 2 years of experience with it has made me a believer.
In Arizona every machine should have one out the door. Other states around Arizona as well.

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In Arizona every machine should have one out the door. Other states around Arizona as well.
I agree 100%. I'm glad the dealership recommended it, and I had it installed before I picked my RZR up from the dealer. I'll do the same with any/every RZR I buy in the future. Certainly not a necessity for the guys who ride loamy woods or mud, but for anybody who rides in a lot of dust it's definitely a worthwhile investment.
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