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post #1 of 63 Old June 14th, 2019, 08:03 PM Thread Starter
 
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Utv truck bed carrier

Looking for people that have used a truck bed mounted utv carrier that have some feedback. I'm in the market to possibly build one or buy one. I'm looking for what brand and what features people liked as well as how much did it cost for freight. It's going in a 2012 short bed f350 and will be used to haul my rs1 or a 2 seat rzr. I also have a 2016 long bed f350 I would like to be able to put the same carrier in if possible. I'm tired of pulling a trailer around and just want everything on my truck.
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post #2 of 63 Old June 14th, 2019, 09:39 PM
 
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https://ramptek.com/utv-decks


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These are extremely dangerous. As a 40 year fire & police driving instructor and a 40 year pilot this is WAY to high a center of Gravity (CG) and too long an arm of moment. This is just simple physics. An aircraft pilot could tell you the same thing. A front end blow out on the truck or some one pulls in front of you that makes you swerve either direction puts the high CG and long lever moment of arm into play. You'll tip to one side. Just the additional weight and height will affect the normal driving.
These devices are like using a long lever to lift something. If you try and lift a heavy object you can't lift it. Put a long heavy lever under it and you could lift it with one hand.

Why do you think heavy semi trucks turn over in curves? Too much speed and too high a CG.

Like Archimedes said: Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.


This heavy tall long Rzr on top of your truck is that lever. The truck was never designed or tested for this type of carry.

If I had a friend who tipped because of one of these devices I would advise him to sue the Mfg because they should know this and they should have tested this.

https://www.truckingtruth.com/cdl-tr...ce-regulations

https://www.flaxmanlaw.com/center-of-gravity.html

There are articles about this all over the web.
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These are extremely dangerous. As a 40 year fire & police driving instructor and a 40 year pilot this is WAY to high a center of Gravity (CG) and too long an arm of moment. This is just simple physics. An aircraft pilot could tell you the same thing. A front end blow out on the truck or some one pulls in front of you that makes you swerve either direction puts the high CG and long lever moment of arm into play. You'll tip to one side. Just the additional weight and height will affect the normal driving.
These devices are like using a long lever to lift something. If you try and lift a heavy object you can't lift it. Put a long heavy lever under it and you could lift it with one hand.

Why do you think heavy semi trucks turn over in curves? Too much speed and too high a CG.

Like Archimedes said: Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.


This heavy tall long Rzr on top of your truck is that lever. The truck was never designed or tested for this type of carry.

If I had a friend who tipped because of one of these devices I would advise him to sue the Mfg because they should know this and they should have tested this.

https://www.truckingtruth.com/cdl-tr...ce-regulations

https://www.flaxmanlaw.com/center-of-gravity.html

There are articles about this all over the web.

What is the difference of a bed mounted Rzr and a cab over camper? I would think a cab over camper would be more weight.
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Re: Utv truck bed carrier

I agree with Roger Lee, those ramptek decks look way too dangerous. My main transport is a 900 50" Trail in an 8ft bed, and that's about what I would call the limit. It'll haul in a straight line all day long comfortably. The moment the road bends, let alone off camber due to road crown, definitely requires some braking before the turn which I would otherwise coast through unloaded.

The main difference is all those decks raise the machine another 24", or even higher. Add the fact some of those are 4 seaters blows my mind. I say if you can't fit it in the bed, trailer it.
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I'll take a trailer any day over that! Besides, how would you get through the McDonald's drive thru?

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Wish I still had the picture on my phone of this but here is what I saw one time...
While waiting for a truck from our NY warehouse to swap out with mine, this full sized Chevy truck pulled in the lot towing about a 28 ft boat all wrapped up in that plastic. On top of the truck was about a 24 ft boat wrapped up too! That boat was longer than the truck. Both had big assed motors on them too. I could not believe it so I went up and looked it over. The truck had a structure attached to the frame of the truck and came out and up the sides of the truck to form a cradle for this huge fiberglass V-bottom boat. There is no amount of money you could pay me to drive that rig anywhere especially here in PA with all the mountains and turns.
As far as those bed mounted things for UTVs and sleds I would not like even putting them on and off let alone hauling them. There is a scale up near my camp for coal trucks to drive onto and they leave it on so I weighed my 2014 50 inch with me in it (200 lbs) and it said like 1576 lbs. So even without me that is over a half ton which many trucks are rated at to haul in the bed. Now put all that weight on top it sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.
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What is the difference of a bed mounted Rzr and a cab over camper? I would think a cab over camper would be more weight.
It depends on the camper. Most campers, the heavy items are down lower at bed level.

RZR, the weight of the engine is above the cab of the truck.

Interesting thing I learned when my wife & I where looking at campers. Take a look at just about every truck. I can tell you that if its a GM, in the glove box next to the RPO sticker, there will probably be a sticker that says "This truck should not be used to carry a slide in camper" Mine is a 2500HD with trailer tow & Z85 heavy duty suspension. Mine has that sticker.

Looked at a buddies new 3500 Duramax, trailer tow package. Same sticker!!!!! You almost need a dually.

I completely agree with RLee. It completely throws off the COG on the truck. Its an accident waiting to happen.
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I completely understand the high cog on a pickup truck with a setup like this. Both of my trucks I intend to use have the camper package that adds larger sway bars and a heavy rear spring package. Both of the truck loaded with this setup will still be under the max gvwr. My f350 I regularly put my slide in camper on and it's 3900lbs loaded and wet. With my camper on my truck it stands about 12'7" tall. My rs1 is only 1600lbs and I figured that deck system is maybe 600-800lbs. Much much less than the 3900lbs of camper I've been using for the past 8 years. I do understand the risks of hauling that much weight that high. I used to drive truck for yacht club trailers. They would stack 10 pontoon boat trailers that are 26' long over top of the truck (f550) and they would put 2 stacks of 5 jet ski trailers on the bed under the pontoon boat trailers. This was all on the truck and only 100lbs under the max gvwr. It stood 13' tall as well. So now that everyone has expressed the risk we get that. Now we can move on too people that actually own and use them.
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Depending on the size a large cab over camper can be just as bad. The one difference is the RzR 's weight is all real high where the camper weight is down inside the bed.. The lighter part of the camper is on top.
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The camper I use is a Lance 1130. 11'6" long in bed and 20' long overall. The thing dwarfs my crew cab long bed f350 and is masso. It hangs 4'5" off the back of my truck.
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If you have a 350 you can put 5-6k in the bed. A rzr is 1500 lbs. even if itís up a little bit itís not taxing the truck at all.


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I put a Rizerback rack in my 2019 Ram 3500 long bed this year and it works great. It gives you storage under the front of UTV.


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