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post #1 of 25 Old April 20th, 2019, 02:43 PM Thread Starter
 
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Trailer for rzr XP 4

I'm getting ready to buy an xp4 1000 and need to get a trailer. Been looking at a 7x14 utility trailer but am torn between a single axle or double axle. Double axle comes with electric brakes and the single would have to have them added. I'm towing this with a half ton chevy and I know trailer brakes are overkill for this but I like having them. There is a $700 price difference between the two trailers. I'm leaning toward the double axle since it's got a 6000lb capacity and it's only slightly more.

What are y'all using to tow an xp4 1000?

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Re: Trailer for rzr XP 4

What's the cost to add brakes to the single axle?
A couple friends have single axle and they work fine.
I would go tandem especially if you're going to do a lot of towing
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I guess my thoughts are, go as big as you can within reason........



Personally, I would rather go tandem for a few reasons. First off, they do tend to pull nicer, you can haul more weight and if you end up with a flat, it's super easy to change with a trailer aid. The brakes are also a plus and a little piece of mind.



I just upgraded to a 20 foot PJ car trailer with 5200 lb axles, its a little heavier then really needed but again......I went bigger then the immediate needs and looking ahead a little.

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Single axle without brakes is $1695 and with is $1995 and is a 10-12wk lead time. The dual axle is $2695 and available now.

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Tandem rides much smoother on rough roads.

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I have two tow vehicles, a 18 1/2 ton gmc and a 16 4Runner. I use a 16’ tandem 3500 axle with brakes right now. I’ll be switching to a 14’ or 16’ single axle soon. Its much less unneeded weight to pull and less resistance on the road, both making them easier to pull. The brakes can be beneficial, but I’ve also had issues with them as well. And let’s be real, the weight of these cars isn’t really enough to need brakes. Imo, singles back into spots and turn easier than tandems too.
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This is what my clients use for the 4 place RZR- built well and have xtra room for fuel and coolers and what not's
Has enough room for a 4-wheeler for the time that you need to take one, with the 17' but the version 14' hauls a 4 seater fine

I have been using one for 5 years now and there are holding up to the riggors- looks great and priced well.


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I have two tow vehicles, a 18 1/2 ton gmc and a 16 4Runner. I use a 16í tandem 3500 axle with brakes right now. Iíll be switching to a 14í or 16í single axle soon. Its much less unneeded weight to pull and less resistance on the road, both making them easier to pull. The brakes can be beneficial, but Iíve also had issues with them as well. And letís be real, the weight of these cars isnít really enough to need brakes. Imo, singles back into spots and turn easier than tandems too.
With a half ton or the turdota.........you need trailer brakes for a trailer big enough to haul a 4 seat RZR. Just plain physics.
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I have two tow vehicles, a 18 1/2 ton gmc and a 16 4Runner. I use a 16í tandem 3500 axle with brakes right now. Iíll be switching to a 14í or 16í single axle soon. Its much less unneeded weight to pull and less resistance on the road, both making them easier to pull. The brakes can be beneficial, but Iíve also had issues with them as well. And letís be real, the weight of these cars isnít really enough to need brakes. Imo, singles back into spots and turn easier than tandems too.
Interesting, one of the few people that I've heard of going from tandem to single axle, usually its the other way around. I've had single axle trailers and tandem and I would much rather have a tandem over a single axle. No offense or disrespect in any way at all.

You mentioned the single axle trailer you are changing to is "much less" unneeded weight. Have you weighed the difference, I'm actually curious, as to how much that would actually be as you're staying about the same length and only dropping an axle. It would be interesting to see the actual weight difference, plus I guessing the weight difference will not make it that much easier to pull, at least from what I've seen.

Yes, brakes can be a benefit and yes they can be a hindrance but like anything I think it comes down to how well people take care of stuff. Neglect them......they probably won't last long, take care of them with some general maintenance and they do typically work. Also the brakes are there to "control" the trailer, regardless of the amount of weight on them, which can be extremely beneficial in cases of wind or getting the trailer back tracking once it's in a sway. Then again, a tandem trailer will tend to track better especially in windy or adverse road conditions.

As far as backing, I guess I've never had an issue with a tandem being more difficult to back up. Personally, I would say the shorter the trailer or a short tongue on a trailer tends to hinder backing as it creates faster reaction. The longer the trailer tends to make it bit easier. I would much rather back up my 30 foot enclosed then my 10 foot / single axle snowmobile trailer.

In case of a flat tire, I also would much rather have a tandem trailer as you can change out a flat without having to get under the trailer!! We just use a Trailer Aid to pull the good tire up and onto and presto the opposite one is hanging free and ready to change. They work awesome and are inexpensive!!

Again, no disrespect or anything like that, its just interesting to see other's point of views and bring up more thoughts or experiences and pass it along.

Here's a quick video of that trailer aid, if anyone hasn't seen one,

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No disrespect taken, it’s all conversation and preference.

For clarity the tandem I have is a pretty heavy dude. I had it made to haul heavy work stuff.

The weight of the actual axel is minimal, couple hundred pounds I guess. Then added weight of the brakes and mounts for axel etc... In my mind it all adds up.

As far as trailer control, I’ve never had a properly loaded trailer sway on me. However that is a good point. A runaway trailer is some scary stuff once it get to moving from side to side.

Changing the tire on a tandem is much easier, MUCH! How often do you have to change a trailer tire though? I’d rather not carry the ramp and use my normal jack for the once a year (or less) I need it.

You are correct, distance from tongue to axle makes the most difference in back one up, by far.

I still totally disagree that you need trailer brakes to stop a 2k pound sxs.
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Re: Trailer for rzr XP 4

Iíve had both as well.
When I was hauling 3-4 quads around the tandem was the way to go.
Now that I only have a 2 seat Turbo I find my single axel to very sufficient.
Easy to unhook and roll around.
I also used to tow with a Honda Pilot SUV. Having brakes on both the tandem and the single axle made sense with this tow rig. Especially when we were in the mountains of KY TN WV VA.
Only way to go! Brakes. Even with a small load.
Mid Size SUV,Trailer,Mountains = Trailer brakes.
Now with a 1500 6.2 liter GMC Sierra Aluma 7712 HD with brakes, not as needed. But there have been a few times. Ahhhh shit!
Love them brakes!!




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This is what my clients use for the 4 place RZR- built well and have xtra room for fuel and coolers and what not's
Has enough room for a 4-wheeler for the time that you need to take one, with the 17' but the version 14' hauls a 4 seater fine

I have been using one for 5 years now and there are holding up to the riggors- looks great and priced well.


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Looks like a nice trailer to me except it is a steel frame. I had an enclosed steel frame for my Powered Parachute and that thing was terrible towing. The plane did not weigh much at all either so it was all trailer weight. Have a small open aluminum now for my 800 RZR and you barely know its back there. I use a 1999 Toyota 4 runner to tow it. There are times it would be nice to have brakes on it though when you are going down mountains here in PA. I've smelled brakes burning a couple times when I didn't know the road and a sharp turn comes up. I usually just gear down and take it easy down mountains so I don't have to use much braking, but there are those times I am caught napping so to speak and have one of those oh crap moments. I would think you guys that live in flat states wouldn't really need trailer brakes for the most part.
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I bought a tilt tandem. 2695 out the door. Awesome trailer. I pick it up in a few weeks.
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No disrespect taken, itís all conversation and preference.

For clarity the tandem I have is a pretty heavy dude. I had it made to haul heavy work stuff.

The weight of the actual axel is minimal, couple hundred pounds I guess. Then added weight of the brakes and mounts for axel etc... In my mind it all adds up.

As far as trailer control, Iíve never had a properly loaded trailer sway on me. However that is a good point. A runaway trailer is some scary stuff once it get to moving from side to side.

Changing the tire on a tandem is much easier, MUCH! How often do you have to change a trailer tire though? Iíd rather not carry the ramp and use my normal jack for the once a year (or less) I need it.

You are correct, distance from tongue to axle makes the most difference in back one up, by far.

I still totally disagree that you need trailer brakes to stop a 2k pound sxs.
Disagree or not.........many state REQUIRE trailer brakes at 1500 lb gross trailer weight,(weight of trailer and cargo). Some at 2000, some at 3000.
Now, a 4 seater is likely to go 2000 lb by it self, and it doesnít take much of a trailer to weigh 1000 lb.
However.......your monkeys, your circus. I just hope I am nowhere around when the ďOh shitĒ moment happens.
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