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Superatv carrier bearing vibration

Just installed new cast satv carrier bearing and front prop shaft and now have a vibration/ rattle that comes in and out around 25 and again around 40. Does not do it on deceleration and sound is different but still there in awd or 2x4.
Did not have these problems before, just changed the carrier as preventative and shaft due to being out of phase. Installed new u joint on the rear shaft too.
Sometimes it makes me think slip yoke rattling but I don’t know.

Got a trip to Windrock Thursday need this thing to be right.

Does not do it every time it goes thru the speed ranges.
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This is on a 2017 900trail eps. Has around 2500 miles and 240hrs
Used a bolt in place of the pin on the front yoke is that matters. The rear slip yoke is a little sloppy, wondering if it’s causing some of this.
The satv label on the carrier is to the rear.
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Added more grease to the yokes and it quieted down some. Do these hardmount bearings just transfer a lot more vibration?

If this is normal I will probably remove it and go back with a rubber mount. I have studied the instAll manual and I believe it is installed correctly. Have clearance at trans yoke.
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Seems like either your shaft is somehow bent or unbalance.
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Front shaft is new satv rear looks straight to the eye
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Re: Superatv carrier bearing vibration

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Added more grease to the yokes and it quieted down some. Do these hardmount bearings just transfer a lot more vibration?

If this is normal I will probably remove it and go back with a rubber mount. I have studied the instAll manual and I believe it is installed correctly. Have clearance at trans yoke.
They definitely transfer the noise. But only in AWD. When I'm in two wheel drive it is quiet as a mouse. AWD, it depends on load. Moderate load is excruciatingly noisy.

You have another issue if you have noise in two wheel mode.

Slop in some drive line part most likely.
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Re: Superatv carrier bearing vibration

You could try rotating the shaft orientation
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Superatv carrier bearing vibration

Ordered superatv carrier bearing and both prop shafts (preventative, had no vibration with stock). Installed with much care, filmed the imbalance and vibration at front diff, sent it back to Superatv, they sent another complete set up. Same issue of vibration and visible imbalance. Unfortunately for those of us looking for an upgrade... Superatv isnít there yet, they still need some R&D on the prop shafts. Friend installed same setup at his shop, same result. Heíll be sending his back also. Now waiting for their response... will report back if they donít handle the issue after giving a 2nd chance. Looks good, installs good (photos), but not a viable solution with excess vibration (video link).... would clearly destroy my front diff bearing over time.

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Re: Superatv carrier bearing vibration

The Super ATV carrier bearing is solid mounted. Whether you are in 2WD or 4WD, the drive shaft is still turning.

Since this carrier bearing is not rubber mounted, any driveline noise will be transmitted through the carrier bearing to the frame and emanate throughout the machine.

I tried the Super ATV carrier and Rhino prop shaft last year. Returned it as it was considerably more noisy than the factory set up.

Best bet is to stay with the factory set up and carrier bearing, just make sure to grease the bearing with some good grease.

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After putting 250-350 miles on it last week the vibration in 2wd is about gone and 4wd feels ok. I greased the slip yoke several times and I believe a lot Of the noise and vibs was coming from them. Still not as smooth as our other rzr with new Polaris shaft and rubber bearing but it is acceptable in my opinion now.
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Re: Superatv carrier bearing vibration

I had the same issue with vibration at around 20 MPH and then again around 40 MPH. I swapped from a Super ATV to a Sandcraft Gen 3 carrier bearing, which helped a little bit. The sandcraft has bushings where it mounts to the frame to absorb some vibration. I greased all the drive line zerks, upgraded to new HD rear axles, balanced my wheels, still had bad vibration.

After all that I knew it had to be the driveline. I looked at SuperATV's website and saw they came out with a new C series drive line that use CV joints instead of U joints. I also noticed their bounty series looks to be discontinued since they are all out of stock.

I emailed SuperATV about my issue and they agreed to swap my bounty series drive line for the new C series for a small fee, since I've had my drivelines for awhile. I also went back to a billet aluminum SuperATV carrier bearing to make sure the whole setup was supported/warrantied by SuperATV. SuperATV was great to help me out.

I got the whole setup installed and finally test drove it today... NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENCE. It's so smooth and quite! I can't tell you how relieved and happy I finally am. After spending all that money and to have those bad vibrations was driving me crazy.

As an extra measure I did apply some sound/vibration deadening (generic DynaMat) material on the bottom of the frame near the carrier bearing that got sandwiched by my full skid plate. I was just hoping to minimize vibration traveling through the frame if there was any. The SuperATV carrier seems tough and was smooth with this setup as well.

From my experience they figured it out with this C series, too bad it was a PITA for me with their old product. To their credit they worked it out for me, which is a sign of a good company IMO. I just wish I got sponsored or something.... ... I need red high clearance A arms

Check out the SuperATV C series drivelines.
https://www.superatv.com/blog/rhino-prop-shafts/
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Re: Superatv carrier bearing vibration

I had the bounty series Super ATV kit, and it was noisy and full of vibration. I couldnít take greasing the joints every single day, so I replaced the joints with their C series joints, and now all is quiet and good. I think for 99% of the users, the bounty series is not good. I didnít want to have to grease every U joint every ride, which included removing the center console.


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Re: Superatv carrier bearing vibration

Just went on a 60+ mile ride today and the SuperATV C series driveline and SuperATV carrier bearing I installed is super smooth! This was the first long ride after the install and I'm super impressed, it feels better than a new car.

Hope it continues to be great and I'll post if I have any issues.

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