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Paiute Trail in April

Is there very much of the Paiute Trail that is rideable in April? If so where would you go in April? We are thinking of trying to put a trip together for April to see some of Utah from the seat of a RZR and would like some advice/recommendations. -Thanks.
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Re: Paiute Trail in April

Hi there,

That's still pretty early. The lower trails will be somewhat muddy in April and the upper elevations will still be snowed in. (assuming we have winter this year)

There's still places you can ride in April, but if you're traveling any distance to come here, I'd wait for later in the year.

Fall is by far the best in my opinion.

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Re: Paiute Trail in April

April is premium time for Moab. If you are driving clear down here this time of year forget about Paiute. Save the Paiute for a summer ride.

There is all kinds of great riding in southern Utah during April. Let me know what you are wanting to experience and I am sure myself and others can help you find what you are looking for.
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Re: Paiute Trail in April

We would be coming from SE WA, and NE OR so it is a pretty good jaunt for us. The fall would be great except that is elk season and when the mules try to earn their keep.

We would really like to see some different country. Some rock crawling is ok but probably not a lot or anything too extreme as I don't think some of the group would enjoy it. Trails are preferred to roads. Up here we typically ride trails and backroads/logging roads and generally cover between 40 and 120 miles in a day depending on the terrain.

Is Moab mostly slow short rock climbing runs or are there many miles of trails to ride and see lots of country?
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Re: Paiute Trail in April

The area around Kanab, UT would be worth seeing. You have the trail through the Virgin River gorge that is called the Barracks Trail (might be a few deep water crossings that time of year), Coral Pink Dunes, and the surrounding area that has countless trails, Hog Canyon trail system, and the Poverty Flats Trail near Zion National Park, that are all in the same general area.

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The area around Kanab, UT would be worth seeing. You have the trail through the Virgin River gorge that is called the Barracks Trail (might be a few deep water crossings that time of year), Coral Pink Dunes, and the surrounding area that has countless trails, Hog Canyon trail system, and the Poverty Flats Trail near Zion National Park, that are all in the same general area.
Thank you. We will look into that area. How deep is deep in "deep water crossings"?

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Re: Paiute Trail in April

We were there the last week in May 2015 and every trail above 9000ft was covered in snow.

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Re: Paiute Trail in April

I know we would be confined to the lower elevations. Is it worth it if you are confined to the low country? Here anything above 6000-7000' is not typically accessible until July.
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Re: Paiute Trail in April

I have made 3 trips to the Paiute Trail and May is the earliest that we have been there. All the other trips have been made in August. I will never go back before the middle of July. There is not enough riding in the low areas.
We always stay in Marysvale, UT. You may could stay in another part of the trail and find some riding, not sure.

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Re: Paiute Trail in April

We would really like to do the Marysvale area but it sounds like that area really needs to wait until we can go later in the year. This is as I expected. I was wondering if other parts of the trail system had better spring riding opportunities.
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The area around Kanab, UT would be worth seeing. You have the trail through the Virgin River gorge that is called the Barracks Trail (might be a few deep water crossings that time of year), Coral Pink Dunes, and the surrounding area that has countless trails, Hog Canyon trail system, and the Poverty Flats Trail near Zion National Park, that are all in the same general area.
Thank you. We will look into that area. How deep is deep in "deep water crossings"?
Deep would be ~2 feet or so. And it would be dependent on what the winter is like, and what springtime temperatures and snow melt are like. Even if the water were too deep to cross comfortably, there is still several days worth of other trails to ride in the Kanab area. The Poverty Flats trail near Zion's National Park and the Hog Canyon trail system are definitely worth riding. There is also some good exploring in the Coral Pink sand dune area, particularly the trail that goes to the "mail drop" that overlooks Colorado City. This is a tall sandstone cliff (? 1000 feet), with a wooden structure at the top that a cable used to attach to, to drop mail to the bottom of the cliff, for the residents of Colorado City.

Most of the low elevation parts of the Paiute Trail are pretty boring. They are primarily connecting trails that tie together the high elevation parts of the trail. The section from Salina in the north, to Koosharem on the east side of the loop, could be done at that time of year, but it is primarily just dirt roads (and some pavement). Also on the east side of the trail loop, the section from the gauging station on highway 62, south to Circleville could be done at that time of year, but that section is one of my least favorite sections of the trail. It is always dry, hot, dusty, and is rocky and rough, without all that great of scenery. April might just be the best time of year to do that section of the trail now that I think about it. The section of trail from the Fremont Indian State Park on I-70, north to the town of Elsinore should be able to be done at that time of year, because it is primarily south facing slopes that would see earlier snow melt. The higher sections could be covered in snow though. The portion of trail directly north of I-70 is also restricted to 50" wide vehicles, so keep that in mind.

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The area around Kanab, UT would be worth seeing. You have the trail through the Virgin River gorge that is called the Barracks Trail (might be a few deep water crossings that time of year), Coral Pink Dunes, and the surrounding area that has countless trails, Hog Canyon trail system, and the Poverty Flats Trail near Zion National Park, that are all in the same general area.
Thank you. We will look into that area. How deep is deep in "deep water crossings"?
Deep would be ~2 feet or so. And it would be dependent on what the winter is like, and what springtime temperatures and snow melt are like. Even if the water were too deep to cross comfortably, there is still several days worth of other trails to ride in the Kanab area. The Poverty Flats trail near Zion's National Park and the Hog Canyon trail system are definitely worth riding. There is also some good exploring in the Coral Pink sand dune area, particularly the trail that goes to the "mail drop" that overlooks Colorado City. This is a tall sandstone cliff (? 1000 feet), with a wooden structure at the top that a cable used to attach to, to drop mail to the bottom of the cliff, for the residents of Colorado City.

Most of the low elevation parts of the Paiute Trail are pretty boring. They are primarily connecting trails that tie together the high elevation parts of the trail. The section from Salina in the north, to Koosharem on the east side of the loop, could be done at that time of year, but it is primarily just dirt roads (and some pavement). Also on the east side of the trail loop, the section from the gauging station on highway 62, south to Circleville could be done at that time of year, but that section is one of my least favorite sections of the trail. It is always dry, hot, dusty, and is rocky and rough, without all that great of scenery. April might just be the best time of year to do that section of the trail now that I think about it. The section of trail from the Fremont Indian State Park on I-70, north to the town of Elsinore should be able to be done at that time of year, because it is primarily south facing slopes that would see earlier snow melt. The higher sections could be covered in snow though. The portion of trail directly north of I-70 is also restricted to 50" wide vehicles, so keep that in mind.

Good luck, have a fun trip.
Great information. Have more map studying to do. We definitely prefer to travel trails that don't have a lot of other people on them. Do you have any idea how heavily used the trails in the Kanab area would be in April?
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We did two weeks this past July in Fillmore. Had a blast.
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We did two weeks this past July in Fillmore. Had a blast.
So there was enough riding to keep a guy busy going new places out of Fillmore for 2 weeks? Where are some of the places you went? I am sure you went places we couldn't possibly get to in April.
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Lol. We rode over 650 miles. Down for a couple of days due to my eye was scratched. Didn't ride the same trail twice. Could have stayed for another month. Can't wait to get back there.
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