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post #1 of 22 Old April 23rd, 2019, 09:30 PM Thread Starter
 
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What am I doing wrong!?!?

Hi guys, Iím a noob and would appreciate some help.

Got a howling sound coming after I had a Highlifter Snorkel installed. Its to the point where my passenger had to cover his ears. I checked the hubs for heat thinking it was a bad bearing. But they were cool and when I put my hand over the center snorkel the howling sound was diminished.

Problem 1.

It varies in intensity...
1. As it warms up it gets worse.
2. Going up hill accelerating and with more torque being applied is when it gets painful to the ears.
3. Down hill the sound abates
4. Worse in high, better in low range
5. Cruising in low range between 10-15 mph hardly any sound



So I decided to change the belt since I had a spare Gates G-force belt.

Problem 2.

What a PITA! I watched several videos on how to change a belt, they make it look like a piece of cake. My experience was far from what the "How to" videos portrayed . . .

1. Remove the clutch box cover, spread the sheaves, rotate the back clutch and the belt should just, with some elbow grease, slide right off just like in the video, right?

2. Nope! That was a b-itch! Some banged up knuckles and pinched fingers later I finally stuck a stout screwdriver in the sheave holes and with both hands just managed to get it off.

3. Iím now stuck as I canít get the replacement belt back on.

Iím 64 with health problems but I'm not a weakling, so what am I doing wrong?

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Get a clutch puller from Hunterworks and remove the primary when replacing the belt. Itís so much easier and prevents twisting the belt.

Iíve done it using the factory tool and it sucks.

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Get a clutch puller from Hunterworks and remove the primary when replacing the belt. Itís so much easier and prevents twisting the belt.

Iíve done it using the factory tool and it sucks.
I donít think any better advice can be given, just steams me a bit when they pre-stage these installs/DIY's to make it look so easy.

Thanks for the sage advise, someday, I hope soon, Iíll be in your neck of the woods. Itís on my bucket list.
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Here is a video on three ways to change it and on the noise, what year is it?


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im not sure what you are doing wrong....changing belts is easy...make sure you spread sheaves all the way....screw the tool in all the way to where it touches the secondary sheave bolt head and let belt drop down in sheave on top and start rolling off the bottom...
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im not sure what you are doing wrong....changing belts is easy...make sure you spread sheaves all the way....screw the tool in all the way to where it touches the secondary sheave bolt head and let belt drop down in sheave on top and start rolling off the bottom...
No tool to screw in on a non turbo

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2018 Polaris RZR 900 Trail EPS. Thanks Todd, why can’t belt be looped over secondary, while its off, then screw bolt back in?

Got your belt on the way, hoping that wii stop the howling.
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2018 Polaris RZR 900 Trail EPS. Thanks Todd, why canít belt be looped over secondary, while its off, then screw bolt back in?

Got your belt on the way, hoping that wii stop the howling.
Because the belt would get caught between and not allow you to tighten the clutch properly

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Screwdrivers make it super hard to change,
Get the right tool, there should be one included with your polaris oem toolkit under the hood, my 2012 900 xp had one from the factory.. it is the belt removal tool on one side and the shock spring adjuster on the other side



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I got that tool and Iím using it as demonstrated in the videos. The belt is still way to tight around the secondary to roll it on.

And there's still the problem with the howling. Iím trying to put on a Gates GForce belt now to check if the belts the problem of not. When my Hunterworks gets here Iíll swap them out again. Mmmmmm, looking forward to that!
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I got that tool and Iím using it as demonstrated in the videos. The belt is still way to tight around the secondary to roll it on.

And there's still the problem with the howling. Iím trying to put on a Gates GForce belt now to check if the belts the problem of not. When my Hunterworks gets here Iíll swap them out again. Mmmmmm, looking forward to that!
The gates might fix it but the belt is not the issue, the gates is too short opens secondary up and changes harmonic vibrations. But it will blow at top speed

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I got that tool and Iím using it as demonstrated in the videos. The belt is still way to tight around the secondary to roll it on.

And there's still the problem with the howling. Iím trying to put on a Gates GForce belt now to check if the belts the problem of not. When my Hunterworks gets here Iíll swap them out again. Mmmmmm, looking forward to that!
It sounds like the secondary clutch isn't opening up properly or all the way... hrmmm

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We put ours on a little differently and it might help. Most install it on the primary then starting from the bottom of the secondary rotate it on counter clock wise. Always tight and tends to try and fold when it get to the top and you fight getting it to clear the top of the cover. we install it on the primary then we start at the top of the secondary and roll it on clock wise. Goes on smooth and easy! Just a word of caution that has not been mentioned.... Never....never turn the primary in a clock wise direction while servicing your drives. Only turn it counter clock wise (engine rotation) or you risk jumping timing.
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right todd....forgot about non turbos...on my 900 i used that tool to open back sheave as far as possible,,,then i had a large nut that i stuck in the other side to hold it all the way open..that way i could use both hands to change belt...then used tool to remove nut...then rolled back sheave to force belt out into stock riding position.just my 2 cents.
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We put ours on a little differently and it might help. Most install it on the primary then starting from the bottom of the secondary rotate it on counter clock wise. Always tight and tends to try and fold when it get to the top and you fight getting it to clear the top of the cover. we install it on the primary then we start at the top of the secondary and roll it on clock wise. Goes on smooth and easy! Just a word of caution that has not been mentioned.... Never....never turn the primary in a clock wise direction while servicing your drives. Only turn it counter clock wise (engine rotation) or you risk jumping timing.
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dmcmark thanks for your reply but...

I donít understand how your method of mounting a belt...

"we start at the top and turn clockwise"

is compatible with your latter statement

"Never....never turn the primary in a clockwise direction while servicing your drives"

Can you clear this up for me?
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