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post #1 of 32 Old November 3rd, 2018, 06:13 PM Thread Starter
 
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Hi, so I'm new to the side by side world. So bear with me. I always saw them as golf carts on steroids. Sorry, but that was my take until the wife convinced me to buy one. No offense, I'm old but still learning. I do like our Rzr, its fast as hell. But I'm perplexed. I know it's no golf cart, the suspension is amazing.
BTW, We have a 2018 XP Turbo - 2 seater which replaced a couple Honda quads. A 680 Rincon and 500 Foreman to be exact.
So, what's with this belt drive transmission on the Rzr? I mean, seriously. Honda can put a automatic automotive type transmission on a quad, why doesn't Polaris? Or even a manual shift transmission? I'd LOVE that.
I haven't had to replace a belt, and we drive this toy moderately. Mostly fire road stuff. Occasional rock crawling, etc. But I've seen the thousands of online stories of belts wxploding after hard use. Which, seriously, should NOT be an issue.
An I being too harsh on CVT? Or are the 1,000's of belt issues I read online simply BS. Or should I seek out a real transmission for this?
Thank you for your time.
Disclaimer, I know Polaris is not the quality of say a BMW, or Honda. But come on Polaris: for 20 grand or more a unit, give us a transmission!
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If you wanted a high-performance manual trans you should have bought a Yamaha YXZ. That said, the CVT has many benefits over a multi-gear transmission. It is always in the right gear when you hit the gas, it is much cheaper and easier to service, and also easier to tune/customize to maximize performance based on intended use. There are drawbacks such as the amount of power they rob and the vulnerability of the belt to water/dirt and abuse. Most CVT belt failures can be attributed to misuse and abuse. If driven properly, a belt can last thousands of miles.
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Darn, I never heard of the Yamaha YXZ! Gonna look into it! Thank You!
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Ah, the problems with impulse buying. I'm paying the price. Now looking into the Roxor now. Starting price less than 16 grand. With diesel engine and conventional 4WD with low range and a 5 speed stick.
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Ah, the problems with impulse buying. I'm paying the price. Now looking into the Roxor now. Starting price less than 16 grand. With diesel engine and conventional 4WD with low range and a 5 speed stick.
Thanks for your time.
That Roxor is not in the same league as a XPT. Drive it, get use to it, and learn capabilities. You will be amazed where you can take a RZR, many places a Jeep won't go.
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BTW, for an impulse buy you bought the right machine, only thing better would have been a XPT4.
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Thank you Joe. I appreciate your posts. I'm in my 50's and my wife and I are are Jeep people. Have 2 Jeeps and do the Jeep Club crawler club runs. Only sold the quads and bought the Rzr for older people reasons. With age comes the cage.
The Roxor seems to be more our style, low (range) and slow. We like to explore historical mines and ghost towns. Or find that distant fishing hole or quail spot.
But I will freely admit; Blasting over whoops at 45 and blazing fire roads at 60 in our Rzr XPT has its merits. It's a different element. Fun as heck.
We have no real regrets buying the turbo Rzr. It's an amazingly capable machine.
The rubber belt - CVT issue is a bit troubling though.
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No worries I'm 52 and my wife rides with me. Our riding group makes up young to old and all skill levels. We've converted more than one Jeep person LOL. Don't sweat the CVT, just use low when below ~25mph or rocky / steep terrain. Not all about speed, the XPT makes serious rock crawler also. If your a wheeler then you know or heard of Pritchett Canyon in Moab. This spring wheeled my XPT4 through without winching or tags lines. They are very capable machines, just enjoy.

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Lol. The XPT and the Roxor are about as far away from each other as UTVs can get. Keep in mind the Roxor is not street legal and weighs more than twice as much as the RZR. I used to be into Jeeps too, and when I was younger swore Id never own anything without a clutch lol. I would NEVER go back to a Jeep after having a RZR unless it was just to cruise around town on the weekends. Either way, we can all agree that off-roading is a blast no matter what your ride of choice is!
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To each his own. Buy want you want, and have fun.
I'll quit owning a Jeep when I can't drive. But my Rzr is a flash in the pan toy. Rinky dink, slaped together, let's make some quick profit for Polaris, exposed engine, off road only, 2 cylinder TOY. Most will be junk in a decade. It's a fun toy for us with more money than sense.
A jeep will last a lifetime in spades and one can drive it over the Hammers and then drive it home. Been there, done that. Over and over.

I've been a Jeep, or Land Cruiser, or 4x4 truck owner since 1977. With all due respect, To say a Rzr or UTV of any type known today can go more places than a built Jeep.. is a joke. It may be fun to say it or type it, but you're fooling yourself. 35s and full lockers on my Jeeps will go places these Rzr toys can't even dream of.
There is no comparison.
These Rzrs are toys. I'm playing with one now. Let's have fun with these toys but don't stretch the envelop.
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Ok, to BWXT and Rzr Joe, I apologize for my last post. I was maybe a bit harsh.
I did buy the wrong machine with our Rzr XPT. I wanted something like a jeep, but our Jeeps won't fit in our trailer.
Our Rzr is a blast, and I appreciate your comments. It's a fast and high speed ride that replaces our quads very very well.
But a Jeep serves it's purpose and these SXS's do too. But... different animal.
I'm learning to like it. But it will never be more capable than our jeeps.
So, I'll shut up and enjoy the Rzr ride. Kudos to all you Rzr peeps.
Signing off. Going to get a old Willys and build it with the Roxor diesel.
Thanx again, and be safe.
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LOL. Back when I had my 2009 Prowler 1000 with HCR long travel suspension, a friend (unfamiliar with side x sides) called it a "glorified golf cart". I just chuckled. Years later, he rented a RZR 800S while on vacation. Said he had no idea how fast and capable these things were. And that was just the old 800....

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To each his own. Buy want you want, and have fun.
I'll quit owning a Jeep when I can't drive. But my Rzr is a flash in the pan toy. Rinky dink, slaped together, let's make some quick profit for Polaris, exposed engine, off road only, 2 cylinder TOY. Most will be junk in a decade. It's a fun toy for us with more money than sense.
A jeep will last a lifetime in spades and one can drive it over the Hammers and then drive it home. Been there, done that. Over and over.

I've been a Jeep, or Land Cruiser, or 4x4 truck owner since 1977. With all due respect, To say a Rzr or UTV of any type known today can go more places than a built Jeep.. is a joke. It may be fun to say it or type it, but you're fooling yourself. 35s and full lockers on my Jeeps will go places these Rzr toys can't even dream of.
There is no comparison.
These Rzrs are toys. I'm playing with one now. Let's have fun with these toys but don't stretch the envelop.
Wow, sounds like someone had too much eggnog. I was a Jeep guy also started with a 79 CJ7 on 39s back in my twenties, been there done that.


Challenge accepted, you in your Jeep on 35s are welcome to try to follow me in my XPT4 on 35s If and when you get to the end of the trail I've have made lunch, eaten, and taken a 2 hour nap LMAO
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I know its been said often, but the best money you can spend on a cvt equipped machine is getting a razorback belt temp guage. it's amazing how you can learn what not to do, and how to drive your machine better by watching your belt temp.
With that being said, yes it would be great to have a better option for a transmission (i'm sure it's coming) but in the meantime. keep the clutches clean from dust ect. and use your head , and you won't have issues.
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