4wd not working - Polaris RZR Forum - RZR Forums.net
Engine and Drivetrain For discussion of drivetrain and engine performance and maintenance

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 23 Old June 3rd, 2010, 01:37 PM Thread Starter
 
boat4life's Avatar
 
Member #6680
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 29
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View boat4life's Photo Gallery(0)
4wd not working

I just rebuilt my sprague carrier with the billet one and installed everthing into carrier as told to..i have power at plug,but my awd will not kick in...dealer told me to replace flat armaure and it will fix...any input on how this will fix the issue thanks
boat4life is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 23 Old June 3rd, 2010, 03:03 PM
 
Trail Boss's Avatar
 
My RZR: 2013 RZR XP 900 HO Kit
Member #15298
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Naples ME
Posts: 11
Garage
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View Trail Boss's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 4wd not working

Do a resistance check on wires from front diff, if not good needs new housing assembly
just did mine, broken wire to coil inside housing
Trail Boss is offline  
post #3 of 23 Old June 3rd, 2010, 03:24 PM
 
Adnoh's Avatar
 
Member #14866
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 8
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View Adnoh's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 4wd not working

Not only check resistance also check the u- shape insert where the coil sets and the armature wear marks as noted in manual. You can also check the awd wiring thu the spedo and to see if its sending power to the coil. I first check spedo then power at plug by diff and then coil resistance and check for short and then tare down and inspect the armature plate and u- shape insert.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Armature plate and wear marks.JPG
Views:	91
Size:	89.5 KB
ID:	16530   Click image for larger version

Name:	Armature plate inspection (normal wear).JPG
Views:	82
Size:	113.4 KB
ID:	16531   Click image for larger version

Name:	Harness plug.JPG
Views:	71
Size:	125.5 KB
ID:	16532   Click image for larger version

Name:	Disconect harness plug to coil .JPG
Views:	77
Size:	106.0 KB
ID:	16533   Click image for larger version

Name:	Coil resistance.JPG
Views:	70
Size:	111.5 KB
ID:	16534  

Click image for larger version

Name:	manual 7.14.jpg
Views:	75
Size:	360.8 KB
ID:	16535  
Adnoh is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 23 Old June 7th, 2010, 09:40 PM Thread Starter
 
boat4life's Avatar
 
Member #6680
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 29
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View boat4life's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 4wd not working

what do you check at speedo. checked all wires and ohmed out plug..got 23.8 ohms.. i know i'm getting power..i just replaced the armature plate...will the front wheels engauge with all wheels in air on jacks if i rev it up in awd or does it need to be on ground..
boat4life is offline  
post #5 of 23 Old June 7th, 2010, 09:45 PM
 
sandspanker's Avatar
 
First Name: Jerry
My RZR: 2008 aerocharger xmf 6"
Member #1472
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Shelton Wa.
Posts: 1,882
Garage
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
View sandspanker's Photo Gallery(4)
Re: 4wd not working

I had to go back in and change the armatur also, now its money.
sandspanker is offline  
post #6 of 23 Old June 7th, 2010, 10:06 PM Thread Starter
 
boat4life's Avatar
 
Member #6680
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 29
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View boat4life's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 4wd not working

could you see issues with the armature or not i just replaced mine tnite but haven't taken off the jacks but my front wheels will not lock up.. maybe need to ride to find out...
boat4life is offline  
post #7 of 23 Old June 7th, 2010, 10:08 PM
King of crash!
 
johnnycat8's Avatar
 
First Name: john
My RZR: 2nd gen...red
Member #787
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: roseville calif.
Posts: 31,883
Garage
Feedback Score: 9 reviews
View johnnycat8's Photo Gallery(0) Send a message via Yahoo to johnnycat8
Re: 4wd not working

dumb question but do you have a gear indicator and 4x4 indicator lit up on insterment cluster?

also some people have had to replace the springs on the carier the old one's didnt work right

link for crow dog's site!!! www.utvguide.net


running makin trax afco shocks and springs
johnnycat8 is offline  
post #8 of 23 Old June 7th, 2010, 10:27 PM Thread Starter
 
boat4life's Avatar
 
Member #6680
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 29
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View boat4life's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 4wd not working

The h springs??? all my indicator lights are working
boat4life is offline  
post #9 of 23 Old June 7th, 2010, 10:31 PM
King of crash!
 
johnnycat8's Avatar
 
First Name: john
My RZR: 2nd gen...red
Member #787
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: roseville calif.
Posts: 31,883
Garage
Feedback Score: 9 reviews
View johnnycat8's Photo Gallery(0) Send a message via Yahoo to johnnycat8
Re: 4wd not working

Quote:
Originally Posted by boat4life View Post
The h springs??? all my indicator lights are working
yep the h springs some have had a problem with some warped part also sorry but i cant remeber it ill try and find it...it was posted by ralph rjsmith

link for crow dog's site!!! www.utvguide.net


running makin trax afco shocks and springs
johnnycat8 is offline  
post #10 of 23 Old June 8th, 2010, 07:29 AM Thread Starter
 
boat4life's Avatar
 
Member #6680
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 29
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View boat4life's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 4wd not working

will the 4x4 kick in on jack stands or do you have to run on ground....
boat4life is offline  
post #11 of 23 Old June 8th, 2010, 10:32 AM
Premium Member
 
teamhog's Avatar
 
First Name: Chris
My RZR: 2009 LE
Member #8136
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 4,933
Garage
Feedback Score: 5 reviews
View teamhog's Photo Gallery(12)
Re: 4wd not working

Quote:
Originally Posted by boat4life View Post
will the 4x4 kick in on jack stands or do you have to run on ground....
I would think it would kick in...

Chris Dierkens
2009 RZR LE - Muzzy, UMP, Donaldson, TS Seats, FixMyToys parts.. and a lot of hard work
['08][ '09 ][ '10 ][ '11/'12 ][ '11-XP ][ 12-RZR-570 ][ 13-RZR-RZRS-RZR4 ][ 2014 RZR XP 1000 ]
teamhog is offline  
post #12 of 23 Old June 8th, 2010, 11:19 AM
 
bagman's Avatar
 
My RZR: 2015 1K Havasu Red
Member #649
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Norco, CA
Posts: 2,203
Garage
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View bagman's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 4wd not working

Yes, AWD engages with all the tires off the ground.
bagman is offline  
post #13 of 23 Old June 8th, 2010, 03:22 PM Thread Starter
 
boat4life's Avatar
 
Member #6680
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 29
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View boat4life's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 4wd not working

any body have any ideas of what to check next.. thanks for the input...i really need 4x4
boat4life is offline  
post #14 of 23 Old June 9th, 2010, 08:00 AM
Premium Member
 
teamhog's Avatar
 
First Name: Chris
My RZR: 2009 LE
Member #8136
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 4,933
Garage
Feedback Score: 5 reviews
View teamhog's Photo Gallery(12)
Re: 4wd not working

Go through the punch list of items that are required for the 4WD to engage...
I believe all of them have been listed here in this thread..
If not, make a list and then go through it..

Chris Dierkens
2009 RZR LE - Muzzy, UMP, Donaldson, TS Seats, FixMyToys parts.. and a lot of hard work
['08][ '09 ][ '10 ][ '11/'12 ][ '11-XP ][ 12-RZR-570 ][ 13-RZR-RZRS-RZR4 ][ 2014 RZR XP 1000 ]
teamhog is offline  
post #15 of 23 Old June 9th, 2010, 08:34 AM
 
willaili's Avatar
 
First Name: Chris
My RZR: 2008
Member #12069
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Kodiak, AK
Posts: 15
Garage
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
View willaili's Photo Gallery(0)
Re: 4wd not working

I am in the exact same situation. I replace the carrier, new h-clips, new armature, new seals. All electrical checked and rechecked it was all ok I then replaced the speedo thinking there was a problem internally, didn't work. I put it up on the lift and ran a direct connection from the battery to the front diff I could hear the armature engage when voltage was put to it. I then ran it up on the lift with the direct connection from the battery and the fronts locked in and started turning. I assume now that somewhere in the system there is a bad ground although I have not been able to find it!?!?! I have traced every wire and followed every popo service manual flowchart. I am completely stumped.

anyone have another idea???
willaili is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Polaris RZR Forum - RZR Forums.net forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
awd not working Pipefitter RZR-S Specific Discussion 32 April 5th, 2012 10:23 PM
4wd not working RAZOR FREAK Engine and Drivetrain 30 July 11th, 2010 04:46 PM
awd not working Eddiebtuff Engine and Drivetrain 6 February 1st, 2010 06:21 PM
4 wd not working kybodyguy Engine and Drivetrain 1 January 8th, 2010 02:21 PM
Working man workingman Member Introductions 1 July 27th, 2008 08:20 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome